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On November 08 2010 08:27 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:24 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 08:23 Nemesis wrote:
Well can infindibulum and AmberLight confirm that they both did not leave their house during the respective days they were visited?
Which days were who visited? i just confirmed infun did not leave his house, based on my knowledge of infun's role amber also just confirmed he did not leave his house night 2 Can you link or quote me to where Amber confirmed it?
Look about 2 posts up.
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On November 08 2010 08:22 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:17 Ace wrote:
So explain how your role name is Watcher but has Tracker abilities? I didn't modify your role - they are two completely different roles.
Watcher - Able to target a player. You either get the names of the people that visited the target that night or the number of players that visited the target.
Tracker - Able to target a player. You find out who the target visited that night. I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. Show nested quote +About Amber[light] - you don't think it's incredibly convenient that the 2 people you tracked :
1.) 1 was already claimed to be innocent by another player
2.) The other is slated to die tonight anyway
So you don't have information on any other player, just 2 guys who are pretty much "solved". Come on, that's very convenient don't you think? You are choosing to ignore the most important part, however. It doesn't matter that I know Amber is going to die tonight. Amber has not revealed his role to this point. Quite an unnecessary gamble that I claim he never left his house night two, don't you think?
I don't know, maybe because if Amber did have a role that could leave his house by now he would have said something? 3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now. Besides that doesn't say anything about Amber's alignment.
But ok, let's put the fact that you have a Watcher role with Tracker abilities aside.
If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?.
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Nemesis, I noticed you changed your vote from Ace to me based on his weak defense.
Explain to me why I would put myself out here like this to target a single town member.
14 town remaining
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A 1:1 trade doesn't work out too well, now does it?
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On November 08 2010 08:21 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:10 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
This is impossible. 1.) That's a Tracker role, not Watcher. If you were a Watcher you'd be able to see who visited me last night. Trackers would be able to see who I visited. So you're lying about your role claim. Thanks for my role clarification. I didn't realize you were a mod. No, I was not given the tracker role, I was given the watcher role. On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
This is impossible. 1.) That's a Tracker role, not Watcher. If you were a Watcher you'd be able to see who visited me last night. Trackers would be able to see who I visited. So you're lying about your role claim. 2.) If you were a Tracker/Watcher you would have been given the name of who I visited last night. If you're claim is legit then why didn't you say WHO I visited to prove it? You didn't. I see what you did there. You modified my role and then attacked me for not following your modification. Clever. On November 08 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
On November 08 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 06:13 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
1.Whats your role name 2.What EXACTLY does it do. 3.Who else did you check. 1. I am a Watcher
2. I am informed if my target leaves their house for the night and what type of action they perform3. I have checked Infundibulum and Amber[Light] On November 08 2010 06:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
Kitaman, please do it fast to avoid suspicion that you are discussing with the mafia. I assure you, if I was mafia, I wouldn't wait until after my claim to come up with the details anyways. He also said he didn't do this because he was waiting...right. Waiting to see who the lynch wagon was going to hit today before coming through with this "breakthrough" information. This is one of the worst role claims ever since it doesn't even make SENSE. How are you so quick to believe this? On November 07 2010 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2010 08:33 Glasse wrote:On November 07 2010 08:32 infinitestory wrote:On November 07 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Well we could lynch Pandain and another person not on your checks to check your own sanity. We had a plan to lynch Padain anyway so it almost works out that we can confirm your sanity, and it's a safeguard to understand that you aren't lying, after all. Let's try not to lynch someone who's more likely town than mafia at the moment. I really hate lurkers, i feel like there HAS to be a mafia hiding in them Agreed. Carefully watching the lurkers should be a priority. Especially those who disappear for periods of time after the town has formed a majority opinion. I had a feeling you might claim this. Luckily, I decided to hide my discovery in a post right after I found out you were scum. That way when you accuse me of making the claim up, I can show you I had the information prior to finding out who would be the lynch targets. On November 08 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
On November 08 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 06:13 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
1.Whats your role name 2.What EXACTLY does it do. 3.Who else did you check. 1. I am a Watcher
2. I am informed if my target leaves their house for the night and what type of action they perform3. I have checked Infundibulum and Amber[Light] On November 08 2010 06:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
Kitaman, please do it fast to avoid suspicion that you are discussing with the mafia. I assure you, if I was mafia, I wouldn't wait until after my claim to come up with the details anyways. To top it all off when asked who he also checked - it turns out it's Infundibulum who was "cleared" by Infinitestory and Amber[light] who is slated to die tonight. Thankfully it doesn't matter if Amber[light] is slated to die or not tonight. Only that he is willing to confirm he did not leave his house on night two.On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
So now lets look at the people who quickly jumped on the lynch Ace wagon even though Kita's claim makes no sense. Of course, Kita for the lynch also. Nice scare tactic. You are right.
this is the first time i have ever had to quote something just 6 posts above to prove that it exists
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On November 08 2010 08:27 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 08:17 Ace wrote:
So explain how your role name is Watcher but has Tracker abilities? I didn't modify your role - they are two completely different roles.
Watcher - Able to target a player. You either get the names of the people that visited the target that night or the number of players that visited the target.
Tracker - Able to target a player. You find out who the target visited that night. I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. About Amber[light] - you don't think it's incredibly convenient that the 2 people you tracked :
1.) 1 was already claimed to be innocent by another player
2.) The other is slated to die tonight anyway
So you don't have information on any other player, just 2 guys who are pretty much "solved". Come on, that's very convenient don't you think? You are choosing to ignore the most important part, however. It doesn't matter that I know Amber is going to die tonight. Amber has not revealed his role to this point. Quite an unnecessary gamble that I claim he never left his house night two, don't you think? I don't know, maybe because if Amber did have a role that could leave his house by now he would have said something? 3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now. Besides that doesn't say anything about Amber's alignment.But ok, let's put the fact that you have a Watcher role with Tracker abilities aside. If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?.
True. Though since I'm "targeted" wouldn't that mean I'm more likely to be pro-town?
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On November 08 2010 08:27 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 08:17 Ace wrote:
So explain how your role name is Watcher but has Tracker abilities? I didn't modify your role - they are two completely different roles.
Watcher - Able to target a player. You either get the names of the people that visited the target that night or the number of players that visited the target.
Tracker - Able to target a player. You find out who the target visited that night. I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. About Amber[light] - you don't think it's incredibly convenient that the 2 people you tracked :
1.) 1 was already claimed to be innocent by another player
2.) The other is slated to die tonight anyway
So you don't have information on any other player, just 2 guys who are pretty much "solved". Come on, that's very convenient don't you think? You are choosing to ignore the most important part, however. It doesn't matter that I know Amber is going to die tonight. Amber has not revealed his role to this point. Quite an unnecessary gamble that I claim he never left his house night two, don't you think? I don't know, maybe because if Amber did have a role that could leave his house by now he would have said something? 3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now. Besides that doesn't say anything about Amber's alignment. But ok, let's put the fact that you have a Watcher role with Tracker abilities aside. If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?.
If you look back at my explanation, I don't receive the name of the player you target. You were the one that added that part to my role description.
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On November 08 2010 08:27 Ace wrote:
If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?.
i think you answered your own question there
we can't assume he's a standard watcher/tracker/whatever, so does he know who the target is? how can we ask him for something which he's not guaranteed to know? how can we make an argument when he doesn't know it?
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On November 08 2010 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Nemesis, I noticed you changed your vote from Ace to me based on his weak defense.
Explain to me why I would put myself out here like this to target a single town member.
14 town remaining
5 mafia remaining
A 1:1 trade doesn't work out too well, now does it?
WIFOM. It's double lynch and you could be doing this to save a scum buddy with a better role. Using the "I wouldn't trade myself for a townie" is irrelevant as I'm sure Scum would love to get me lynched.
Either way let's go back to L's argument about Cube's role being wrong. Look at all the roles revealed so far that show up in normal games:
1.) Doctors and Plague Doctors - protect targets from death and/or stop murrayitis
2.) Detective - get a random role at night, may be insane/sane
3.) Bodyguard - works like a normal bodyguard. Elected role can not die.
4.) Mayor - gets an extra vote, works like a normal mayor
5.) Vigilante - shoots at night, has a chance to shoot themselves
6.) Mad Hatter - places a bomb on a target, bombs blow up if the bomber dies
7.) Watcher - Has tracker abilities, does not get the name of the target
How come of all the roles in the game that appear in a standard game your role is the only one that has nothing to do with the original role? Every other role even though modified has some relation to the original.
But your Watcher role has Tracker abilities and does not get the name of a target. Based on the game setup your role doesn't even fit. So how am I making stuff up again?
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On November 08 2010 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Nemesis, I noticed you changed your vote from Ace to me based on his weak defense.
Explain to me why I would put myself out here like this to target a single town member.
14 town remaining
5 mafia remaining
A 1:1 trade doesn't work out too well, now does it?
Hmm well honestly I don't care who gets lynched at this point. Depending on who flips what, the next day lynch is quite clear.
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On November 08 2010 08:28 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:27 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 08:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 08:17 Ace wrote:
So explain how your role name is Watcher but has Tracker abilities? I didn't modify your role - they are two completely different roles.
Watcher - Able to target a player. You either get the names of the people that visited the target that night or the number of players that visited the target.
Tracker - Able to target a player. You find out who the target visited that night. I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. About Amber[light] - you don't think it's incredibly convenient that the 2 people you tracked :
1.) 1 was already claimed to be innocent by another player
2.) The other is slated to die tonight anyway
So you don't have information on any other player, just 2 guys who are pretty much "solved". Come on, that's very convenient don't you think? You are choosing to ignore the most important part, however. It doesn't matter that I know Amber is going to die tonight. Amber has not revealed his role to this point. Quite an unnecessary gamble that I claim he never left his house night two, don't you think? I don't know, maybe because if Amber did have a role that could leave his house by now he would have said something? 3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now. Besides that doesn't say anything about Amber's alignment.But ok, let's put the fact that you have a Watcher role with Tracker abilities aside. If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?. True. Though since I'm "targeted" wouldn't that mean I'm more likely to be pro-town?
I wasn't saying you aren't. Just illustrating how convenient it all shapes up.
@IS: Read my latest post as to how it just doesn't fit with the rest of the game.
@Kita: Exactly. How can you not receive the name of the target when BOTH roles that you're alleged role is based on always do? How can your role be called WATCHER and it doesn't tell you who I interacted with?
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I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. Uh, please go back and read what I actually wrote. I said Cube's role didn't make sense unless there was some other role that could capitalize on the information, which I had no clue existed. Afterwards, I realized that if mafia was told who the doc is and if they had a m-rus spreader, they could give him M-rus, and use his prots to spread it around.
I never said Cube's role was impossible, only that there was a piece of the puzzle that was missing, that I ended up filling in later, because no one else bothered to do any thinking about it.
As for the current situation, Ace is right that what the role does doesn't match up with the role's name. None of the prior named standard roles have had any error, so that's pretty big in Ace's favor. On the other hand, Ace hasn't been as much of a jerk as he normally is this game, which is pretty odd, but Ace is normally a jerk when he's mafia too, so I dunno. I'm gonna go look at what the vote trends were going before the announcement was made, because those might be interesting.
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Basically Pandain was trending downwards, and Meapak/Hyperbola were headed upwards, prior to a bunch of people chain voting Ace. Meapak and Hyperbola both still haven't really made any solid thread presence since the fire's been off their tail.
NB, were you told a medic protected you? I remember an answer, but I can't find the post anymore. Kinda seems important.
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On November 08 2010 08:49 L wrote:
Basically Pandain was trending downwards, and Meapak/Hyperbola were headed upwards, prior to a bunch of people chain voting Ace. Meapak and Hyperbola both still haven't really made any solid thread presence since the fire's been off their tail.
NB, were you told a medic protected you? I remember an answer, but I can't find the post anymore. Kinda seems important.
he said he didn't receive a PM, but then he claimed his role gave him a daily PM and that PM included "something about medication"
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On November 08 2010 08:49 L wrote:
Basically Pandain was trending downwards, and Meapak/Hyperbola were headed upwards, prior to a bunch of people chain voting Ace. Meapak and Hyperbola both still haven't really made any solid thread presence since the fire's been off their tail.
NB, were you told a medic protected you? I remember an answer, but I can't find the post anymore. Kinda seems important.
as for meapak's thread presence since I did my analysis on him, he claimed some Veteran Granny, who can take a hit but will kill any doctor that prots
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gonna vote for whoever has most votes, i'll reread tomorrow and maybe change stuff.
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On November 08 2010 08:51 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:49 L wrote:
Basically Pandain was trending downwards, and Meapak/Hyperbola were headed upwards, prior to a bunch of people chain voting Ace. Meapak and Hyperbola both still haven't really made any solid thread presence since the fire's been off their tail.
NB, were you told a medic protected you? I remember an answer, but I can't find the post anymore. Kinda seems important. as for meapak's thread presence since I did my analysis on him, he claimed some Veteran Granny, who can take a hit but will kill any doctor that prots
Oh, no, I know, but you'd think if he's a vet, he'd be very vocal especially now that we're focusing on someone else.
As for NB, ok. Might have been PD, but I'm trying to figure out who bussed where.
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On November 08 2010 08:36 L wrote:Show nested quote +I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. Uh, please go back and read what I actually wrote. I said Cube's role didn't make sense unless there was some other role that could capitalize on the information, which I had no clue existed. Afterwards, I realized that if mafia was told who the doc is and if they had a m-rus spreader, they could give him M-rus, and use his prots to spread it around. I never said Cube's role was impossible, only that there was a piece of the puzzle that was missing, that I ended up filling in later, because no one else bothered to do any thinking about it.
Ok. That wasn't a post aimed to make you look bad. I was just showing that denying the plausibility of a role, as if we know better, has not proven successful. Ace is basing his defense on the name of my role, while ignoring the fact that Amber has been able to confirm it.
On November 08 2010 08:34 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Nemesis, I noticed you changed your vote from Ace to me based on his weak defense.
Explain to me why I would put myself out here like this to target a single town member.
14 town remaining
5 mafia remaining
A 1:1 trade doesn't work out too well, now does it? Hmm well honestly I don't care who gets lynched at this point. Depending on who flips what, the next day lynch is quite clear.
Well you should care. One more mafia death lowers their kp so order does matter.
On November 08 2010 08:36 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:28 Amber[LighT] wrote:On November 08 2010 08:27 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 08:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 08:17 Ace wrote:
So explain how your role name is Watcher but has Tracker abilities? I didn't modify your role - they are two completely different roles.
Watcher - Able to target a player. You either get the names of the people that visited the target that night or the number of players that visited the target.
Tracker - Able to target a player. You find out who the target visited that night. I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. About Amber[light] - you don't think it's incredibly convenient that the 2 people you tracked :
1.) 1 was already claimed to be innocent by another player
2.) The other is slated to die tonight anyway
So you don't have information on any other player, just 2 guys who are pretty much "solved". Come on, that's very convenient don't you think? You are choosing to ignore the most important part, however. It doesn't matter that I know Amber is going to die tonight. Amber has not revealed his role to this point. Quite an unnecessary gamble that I claim he never left his house night two, don't you think? I don't know, maybe because if Amber did have a role that could leave his house by now he would have said something? 3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now. Besides that doesn't say anything about Amber's alignment.But ok, let's put the fact that you have a Watcher role with Tracker abilities aside. If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?. True. Though since I'm "targeted" wouldn't that mean I'm more likely to be pro-town? I wasn't saying you aren't. Just illustrating how convenient it all shapes up. @IS: Read my latest post as to how it just doesn't fit with the rest of the game. @Kita: Exactly. How can you not receive the name of the target when BOTH roles that you're alleged role is based on always do? How can your role be called WATCHER and it doesn't tell you who I interacted with?
I can only tell you what my role gives me. I suggest you have a talk with Artanis[xp] post-game if you would like to discuss adjusting the name of my role.
On November 08 2010 08:33 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Nemesis, I noticed you changed your vote from Ace to me based on his weak defense.
Explain to me why I would put myself out here like this to target a single town member.
14 town remaining
5 mafia remaining
A 1:1 trade doesn't work out too well, now does it? WIFOM. It's double lynch and you could be doing this to save a scum buddy with a better role. Using the "I wouldn't trade myself for a townie" is irrelevant as I'm sure Scum would love to get me lynched
Naw, you can brush that off so easily. Its 14-5. A 1:1 trade is not beneficial, especially considering there has been little suspicion on me prior to this.
@Ace Since I'm taking you down with me either way, do you intend to role claim? Or are you holding off while your scum buddies formulate a plan to prevent yourself from being caught in a lie.
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Amber did not confirm your role. Amber confirmed that he did not visit anyone - that's all.
I'm not going to role claim because it would only help Scum if I don't get lynched. I don't role claim on the whim I might be lynched unless I'm sure it's going to help the town. At this time, it won't.
A 1:1 trade isn't beneficial? Really, so knocking me out of the game when all suspicions on me boil down to "how are you still alive?" isn't great? Ok.
But you can't deny that your role does not fit with ANY other role in the game. Your fakeclaim doesn't make sense, it doesn't even give you the name of a target which is what Tracker AND Watcher roles do. You can't be telling the truth.
Your only response is to take it up with Artanis but so far, all of Artanis's roles have some bearing on their originals. So why does he need to say anything?
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On November 08 2010 09:05 Ace wrote:
Amber did not confirm your role. Amber confirmed that he did not visit anyone - that's all.
Why would I risk something like that? Amber had not role claimed, so there is a chance he had left that night, and my claim falls to pieces.
On November 08 2010 Ace wrote:
3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now.
I feel that's a pretty big slip. It would be safe to assume Amber hasn't left his house because he hasn't role claimed by day three? lol
A 1:1 trade isn't beneficial? Really, so knocking me out of the game when all suspicions on me boil down to "how are you still alive?" isn't great? Ok.
No it isn't great because I die the next day if you pop blue (which I'm confidant you won't).
On November 08 2010 09:05 Ace wrote:
Your only response is to take it up with Artanis but so far, all of Artanis's roles have some bearing on their originals. So why does he need to say anything?
You are putting words in my mouth. I never said Artanis has to say anything. I suggested you talk with him after the game if you feel my role is inappropriately named.
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