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zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
October 15 2010 02:36 GMT
#1661
with the connection of cats with brownbears profile and his recent posts, id focus on him
With no power, comes no responsibility.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 15 2010 02:40 GMT
#1662
On October 15 2010 11:36 zerroth wrote:
with the connection of cats with brownbears profile and his recent posts, id focus on him


it worked once for masq :O
Kpyolysis32
Profile Joined April 2010
553 Posts
October 15 2010 03:41 GMT
#1663
On October 15 2010 11:04 Node wrote:
Kpyolisis32 is pretty damn sketchy in my book. Forget the damn cat for a moment, and just look at the way he's been posting:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 13:25 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
By the way, the clue in LSB's death does look a hell of a lot like I did it, with the cat. It's bound to come up, so I'll just point it out now so we don't waste time.


I mean, this statement is so weird no matter how you look at it. It's just, "Yep, the clue points to me. That's all." He doesn't defend himself. He doesn't deny that it was him, or provide other potential suspects. To me, it just looks like a ploy to gain some townie cred by implicating himself just a little bit, hoping that people will move on accepting that there's no way a red would provide evidence against himself. The only defense we get is:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 13:28 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
On October 14 2010 13:27 KhrisKruel wrote:

why would you implicate yourself?


It's going to come up either way, may as well point it out sooner. I'm not saying I did do it (I didn't, for what that's worth), but it's by far the most obvious implication of that clue.


I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.


Being irresponsible and taking a break from homework to defend myself. I like succinctness, and there's no reasonable way I can think of to defend myself against a clue. He was killed by a cat, and I have a cat in my profile. It's just a fact. I can and will defend myself against people, who say things that are subject to perspective and aren't simply facts, as I am doing right now. If my tone for posting (and that clue, obviously) is the only thing that makes you suspect me, then I'm sorry, it's just the way I work. If you have anything els,e such as an analysis of my posting, I'd love to see it.
Man, do I not keep this up to date, or what?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 15 2010 03:46 GMT
#1664
no one continue to vote vendril.

I need to check something...and we have a whole 'nother day.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 04:03 GMT
#1665
On October 15 2010 10:10 Pandain wrote:
Obviously its a pun on annul(anal), since it came from the restroom. That's the bad smell.


zzzzzzzzz


its obviously a pun on p and ain, or p (and) ain, or pain. pain in the restroom does often smell bad, hence VOTE PANDAIN GOGOGO

yum yum
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 04:43 GMT
#1666
On October 15 2010 11:04 Node wrote:
Kpyolisis32 is pretty damn sketchy in my book. Forget the damn cat for a moment, and just look at the way he's been posting:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 13:25 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
By the way, the clue in LSB's death does look a hell of a lot like I did it, with the cat. It's bound to come up, so I'll just point it out now so we don't waste time.


I mean, this statement is so weird no matter how you look at it. It's just, "Yep, the clue points to me. That's all." He doesn't defend himself. He doesn't deny that it was him, or provide other potential suspects. To me, it just looks like a ploy to gain some townie cred by implicating himself just a little bit, hoping that people will move on accepting that there's no way a red would provide evidence against himself. The only defense we get is:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 13:28 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
On October 14 2010 13:27 KhrisKruel wrote:

why would you implicate yourself?


It's going to come up either way, may as well point it out sooner. I'm not saying I did do it (I didn't, for what that's worth), but it's by far the most obvious implication of that clue.


I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.


Y'know, this actually makes some sense. There are a lot of good suspicions this day, and good analysis from a lot of players. I'm sad I haven't been very active, the next couple days for me will be very busy. I trying to keep up by reading on my phone when I get the chance, but I don't often have time to craft a response via iphone touch pad.


On October 15 2010 12:46 Pandain wrote:
no one continue to vote vendril.

I need to check something...and we have a whole 'nother day.



I am going to be playing Day 2 a bit more passively and see what others come up for as ideas. I will hold off on a vote for a little while because I don't want to switch often. I will try to post a bit more when I wake up. For now, I bid you good morrow!
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 15 2010 04:48 GMT
#1667
On October 15 2010 12:46 Pandain wrote:
no one continue to vote vendril.

I need to check something...and we have a whole 'nother day.


I'm currently voting because I live in Australia-ville and don't want to accidentally miss a chance to vote while I'm at work tomorrow. Be a pretty shit way to exit the game.
#1 Eric Marienthal fanboy. Dropped engineering for this >.<
spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 15 2010 05:56 GMT
#1668
On October 14 2010 14:54 Coagulation wrote:
I think fedora is more a reference to this

Mafia Skeleton - You are a reanimated skeleton enslaved by the Capone Mafia Family! You unquestioningly serve the orders of the godfather and live in fear of the Witches wrath. Working for the mafia has put a lot of food on the table for your reanimated skeleton family and you've always liked the idea of being a gangster anyway. Skeletons look cool with fedoras and tommy guns.


Not so sure. I had the same vein of thought when people were discussing the clues for Masq. I suggested that the clue simply referred to the JoL role, but as Dr.H pointed out:

Clues do not refer to a players role under any circumstance. All clues pertain ONLY to profiles, player names, and signatures. Nothing else. EVER.


Going to check through some profiles for this one
#1 Eric Marienthal fanboy. Dropped engineering for this >.<
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 15 2010 05:57 GMT
#1669
On October 15 2010 10:49 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 09:38 BrownBear wrote:
On October 15 2010 09:13 Coagulation wrote:
On October 15 2010 08:55 BrownBear wrote:
On October 15 2010 00:41 BrownBear wrote:
Now, onto today's lynch... right now I'm a fan of lynching the chainsaw-defending Veldril, for two reasons:

1: I really can't see any logical explanation for his defense of Masq other than "vampire buddy who didn't know what bussing was"

2: We drop a vampire today, we lower their KP to two, which means one less death per night.

After today, though, we really should be focusing on hunting down mafia, to bring the numbers back to equal. As town, we're trying to maintain balance between the two scum factions - we don't want mafia to get too much of an upper hand here.


And then in the voting thread:

On October 15 2010 08:48 Glasse wrote:
On October 15 2010 07:10 Glasse wrote:
Vote brownbear

oops, my bad

vote BrownBear


With no explanation, I might add. Another possible vampire trying to save his vamp buddy? Glasse, care to explain yourself?



he posted like 5 post's up that he was basing this off the cat clue and is going with the less obvious suspect.



...

I can read. Clearly.


wait what? why are you asking an explanation from him if he already gave an explanation. ??. other then that vote glasse if u think hes suspect. just trying to answer your question.



Sorry, i meant to sarcastically refer to my inability to notice obvious posts that answer my questions already
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 11:54 GMT
#1670
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 15 2010 12:38 GMT
#1671
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 15 2010 13:01 GMT
#1672
DrH, I can't find it in the original post, but if Veldril gets the required amount of votes, does that end the day immediately? It looks like from your OP that the day won't end until the 48 hours is up, and you also require everyone to vote. If the day ends early, there will likely be a bunch of people that haven't voted.

Just requesting a verification
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 13:05 GMT
#1673
On October 15 2010 21:38 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.


Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios:

1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills.
2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck.
3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia.
4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP.

Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town.

I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 13:07 GMT
#1674
EBWOP: I meant equal percent chance of occurrence, not income. Sitting in accounting class right now, haha -_-
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KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 15 2010 13:15 GMT
#1675
On October 15 2010 22:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 21:38 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.


Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios:

1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills.
2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck.
3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia.
4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP.

Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town.

I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game.


You do realize this can be said about every player in the game.

This post reeks of "I don't care if Veldril dies"
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 15 2010 13:40 GMT
#1676
Actually, now that I think about it, it does mean you care if Veldril dies.

You give completely illogical numbers. Anyone can see from the OP its not an equal chance of being each. Your numbers heavily skew towards advantageous numbers.

A townie lynch is not good. Ever. Sad that you would think that. I know scum would think that townie kills are good though.

With your illogical numbers, and no vote yourself, your post screams "I want Veldril dead but I don't want to get my hands dirty." Even if you do plan to vote for him, if this is really your reasoning, then that's scummy.
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#1677
On October 15 2010 22:15 KhrisKruel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 22:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 15 2010 21:38 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.


Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios:

1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills.
2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck.
3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia.
4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP.

Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town.

I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game.


You do realize this can be said about every player in the game.

This post reeks of "I don't care if Veldril dies"


I'm not sure how it reeks of "I don't care if Veldril dies." I am putting my thoughts down and sharing them.

It could be said for everyone, yes, but I'm trying to generate discussion. I feel Veldril is either green or scum, I think (hope) he wouldn't play so recklessly if he were blue. So lynching him has a low chance of having a negative effect on the town. We have a bit of leeway to accidentally lynch a townie. I'm not sure if I'd prefer to lynch Vamp or Mafia at this point. Having one less kill per night would be sweet, but not giving Mafia a significant lead would also be awesome.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#1678
On October 15 2010 22:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 21:38 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.


Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios:

1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills.
2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck.
3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia.
4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP.

Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town.

I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game.


1. Bad
2. Very Bad
3. Kinda Bad (Maf quite close to winning)
4. Good

75% chance of it going bad. I don't think the maths matter though, if veldril is scum, its 99% that he's a vamp rather than a maf. I don't think lynching him is a good idea.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 14:01 GMT
#1679
On October 15 2010 22:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
Actually, now that I think about it, it does mean you care if Veldril dies.

You give completely illogical numbers. Anyone can see from the OP its not an equal chance of being each. Your numbers heavily skew towards advantageous numbers.

A townie lynch is not good. Ever. Sad that you would think that. I know scum would think that townie kills are good though.

With your illogical numbers, and no vote yourself, your post screams "I want Veldril dead but I don't want to get my hands dirty." Even if you do plan to vote for him, if this is really your reasoning, then that's scummy.


You are so dumb, you are really dumb, for real. (sorry, had to quote the meme)

I said "even if they are equal chances". I know there is not an equal chance of occurring. I also never said killing a townie is good. I said we could afford to cobviouslly I would much prefer a scum kill, but if a townie gets lynched accidentally, I'm not going to go cut myself over it.

I have not voted yet because over the last 48 hours I have been training for an exhibition show, so I have not been able to read thoroughly, and thus, I am reserving myself.

You are attacking me for brainstorming. Welcome to my shot list, buddy.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2010 14:05 GMT
#1680
On October 15 2010 22:55 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 22:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 15 2010 21:38 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.


Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios:

1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills.
2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck.
3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia.
4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP.

Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town.

I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game.


1. Bad
2. Very Bad
3. Kinda Bad (Maf quite close to winning)
4. Good

75% chance of it going bad. I don't think the maths matter though, if veldril is scum, its 99% that he's a vamp rather than a maf. I don't think lynching him is a good idea.


I see it as:

1. Not favorable (but not detrimental)
2. Terribad
3. Good, but not preferable
4. Great

And this is why I'm posting my thoughts. To generate this kind of discussion.
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