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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:21 jcarlsoniv wrote: Pandain, that's a good, thorough analysis, and I agree with you. A while back I did an analysis on about the first half of his posts. I thought we couldn't discuss PMs shared with mods... :3 It was before he hosted it. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:21 jcarlsoniv wrote: Pandain, that's a good, thorough analysis, and I agree with you. A while back I did an analysis on about the first half of his posts. I thought we couldn't discuss PMs shared with mods... :3 its not a this game specific pm if it isnt relevant to this game then it shouldnt matter. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:13 BrownBear wrote: See, but this number 12 doesn't mean anything. You just pulled it out of your ass. Nowhere in the OP does it say 12 scumkills = victory. we have 1 dead mafia right now. if all vampires die and no more mafia die, then mafia wins and 12 red are dead. so yes, under current scenario, 12 scum kills (assuming mafia wins out from here) is a mafia victory what i am also saying is that as soon as 5 on each side are dead, NEITHER side can win alone until town has less than 7 left. there can be a double win, but in a double win we still win | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:29 Glasse wrote: Pandain you are asking for people that got hit to claim. Now if you are town i guess it can help but then if someone got hit and lived, it means they were the 2 live guy thing or were saved by a ghost. Now you will probably want to use that to track down ghosts by looking at posts from people supporting the guy that got hit (or something like that) to kill them asap, since i believe you are mafia/vamp i doubt helping you would be a good idea. Forgot to add the most important part : please don't tell him if you were hit. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:29 Glasse wrote: Pandain you are asking for people that got hit to claim. Now if you are town i guess it can help but then if someone got hit and lived, it means they were the 2 live guy thing or were saved by a ghost. Now you will probably want to use that to track down ghosts by looking at posts from people supporting the guy that got hit (or something like that) to kill them asap, since i believe you are mafia/vamp i doubt helping you would be a good idea. Its common play to claim if you got hit. If your vet, we have a confirmed townie, and can rally around you. That's incrediably important. If you got protected by a ghost, thats still important to know, since it can help lend support to you being one side/help figure out whether vamps used their poison ability. Also, support for a guy doesn't mean they're the ghost. I'd welcome mafia to do shoot off that, as they'd fail each time. | ||
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zerroth
Canada173 Posts
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ShmotZ
United States581 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:31 Glasse wrote: Forgot to add the most important part : please don't tell him if you were hit. Yea i agree, dont claim. Why do you want people to claim so much? We can get information and work together without revealing such critical info so early on. Think about it, if you were mafia, you would just use the claims as a big trail to our blues for the reds effectively crippling the towns powers and giving the mafia the advantage. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:46 zerroth wrote: only 4 were killed by M/F this round so yeah someone got protected or some guy lost one of his two lives Alternatively, someone got hit by the poison fang and is going to have a delayed death tonight. I'm not sure why the vampires would want to do that, but it's a possibility. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Node
United States2159 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:50 ShmotZ wrote: Yea i agree, dont claim. Why do you want people to claim so much? We can get information and work together without revealing such critical info so early on. Think about it, if you were mafia, you would just use the claims as a big trail to our blues for the reds effectively crippling the towns powers and giving the mafia the advantage. Wow.... You don't want to have a confirmed townie? One we can rally around? I'll have to analyze you soon too. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: Can the Poison Fang poison someone once every night? If so, we need to search for and get rid of him quickly. Judging by the description, yeah, it's just another way to kill a guy. Maybe they were afraid of someone being protected last night, but not tonight? Ominous. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:57 Pandain wrote: Wow.... You don't want to have a confirmed townie? One we can rally around? I'll have to analyze you soon too. maybe i misunderstood your logic but how exactly does someone claiming they got saved by a ghost confirm they are a townie?? why cant a mafia or vampire claim to have been saved by a ghost?? what is it that proves what they are claiming is legit exactly?? this is why i dont think its all that important .. you cant verify if anyone is claiming is true so its pointless.. and probably just giving reds a chance to do damage. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
if anything reds would have significantly more incentive to claim they had been saved by a ghost then an actual townie that was saved by ghost.. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:26 annul wrote: we have 1 dead mafia right now. if all vampires die and no more mafia die, then mafia wins and 12 red are dead. so yes, under current scenario, 12 scum kills (assuming mafia wins out from here) is a mafia victory I don't get what you are trying to say here. Mafia doesn't need to kill townies to win so townie numbers doesn't matter to mafia. Even if town has 18 scum kills, it is still a mafia victory as long as only 7 mafias are dead. what i am also saying is that as soon as 5 on each side are dead, NEITHER side can win alone until town has less than 7 left. there can be a double win, but in a double win we still win That doesn't make sense at all. As long as they are able to kill whatever is remaining on the other side without losing at least 3 more members, they can still win alone. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
1.If vet -We have a confirmed townie assuming they aren't lying. They are the equivelent of zombies now, it's useful for people to know they got hit, because that's evidence. Now we can trust this person, perhaps have a DT check on him too just to verify. Then we can do a number of options which can be discussed in the future such as roleclaliming to him. Its just useful to know for one. 2. If saved by ghost -confirms there is ghost(very useful to know, in case of plans) -can't help mafia/vampires because what medic would blatantly say who he would protect. And both will help figure out whether someone is poisoned, which is very important to know. For example, I, arragont as I am, assume mafia/vampires poisoned me because I'm so good(laugh laugh, not.) | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On October 16 2010 06:42 Pandain wrote: Claiming can do many things for town: 1.If vet -We have a confirmed townie assuming they aren't lying. They are the equivelent of zombies now, it's useful for people to know they got hit, because that's evidence. Now we can trust this person, perhaps have a DT check on him too just to verify. Then we can do a number of options which can be discussed in the future such as roleclaliming to him. Its just useful to know for one. 2. If saved by ghost -confirms there is ghost(very useful to know, in case of plans) -can't help mafia/vampires because what medic would blatantly say who he would protect. And both will help figure out whether someone is poisoned, which is very important to know. For example, I, arragont as I am, assume mafia/vampires poisoned me because I'm so good(laugh laugh, not.) none of this confirms anything. and your just opening the door for reds to manipulate town. you said so yourself "assuming they arent lying" "assuming they arent lying" "assuming they arent lying" "assuming they arent lying" big fucking assumption in a game of deceit and trickery. | ||
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