EPTnothing i said re: masq was untrue =P
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annul
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nothing i said re: masq was untrue =P | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Hittegods bumatlarge Pandain kitaman27 SINiquity Kpyolysis32 Veldril AirbladeOrange Shmotz Now, I can kindaunderstand Veldril (dude was second in line, that's just defensive voting), but the rest of that list could be vamps trying to bus. Or mafia trying to ensure Masq died. Although mafia didn't know he was vamp any more than we did until the flip... perhaps mafia really wanted Veldril alive for some reason? Will look into this more. | ||
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zerroth
Canada173 Posts
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
Ironically Pandain's PM indicating he's Frankenstein reminded me this thing even started lol | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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SiNiquity
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 14 2010 07:46 SiNiquity wrote: Read pages 50+ for a good laugh. I just caught up on the BM mess. Funny stuff. No discussion of that in this thread please. Let's not make it more of a debacle than it was. | ||
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ghrur
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oddo123
Iceland134 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On October 14 2010 08:21 oddo123 wrote: To explain myself, it was a toss up for me between Masq and Veldril. I picked Veldril because I saw Masq as money in the bank. me too but you can suspect me because i like reading things including me :D | ||
bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On October 14 2010 07:02 BrownBear wrote: People who (relatively) last-minute bandwagoned onto Masq (started with about 5 hours to go): Hittegods bumatlarge Pandain kitaman27 SINiquity Kpyolysis32 Veldril AirbladeOrange Shmotz Now, I can kindaunderstand Veldril (dude was second in line, that's just defensive voting), but the rest of that list could be vamps trying to bus. Or mafia trying to ensure Masq died. Although mafia didn't know he was vamp any more than we did until the flip... perhaps mafia really wanted Veldril alive for some reason? Will look into this more. I'm happy someone is doing what I suggested yesterday, regardless of whether or not I influenced them. Although I REALLY misinterpreted Dr.H's conditions for town (8 of each instead of 8 in general), this list is still as important as it was before, we just have to be as consistent. It would be best to take out a mafia next, but whoever is the scummiest should be lynched. We should consider double lynch, but it would be dangerous considering both sides just need to kill each other. Veldril should die anyway even if he is most likely another vampire, it's better then hitting townies. and a +2 win margin for mafia isnt all that much so early if we can read them well. As for my own defense, I wont change anything I've said. Use your own judgement. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote: RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here. 1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something. 2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum. 3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction The first two points have been discussed to death, so make your own observations there. I underestimated what Bill said regarding the sides. I failed to realize that the objective of either side is to kill the other team, regardless of towns numbers. It's almost as if town and mafia roles are reversed, since town just need to outnumber the remaining 8 scum. That means that either side cant win until much later if they lose one member... which is assumed they will if the other faction is smart. If the two candidates for lynch (masq/veldril) contain at least one scum, we can be certain that right now on the lists contain a good number of scum from the opposite faction, depending on what they are. We just need mafia/vamps to kill each other decisively. If they don't they risk the other faction rising ahead. Therefore both teams need to rely on end game tactics. Heh, it's almost as if we don't need to do anything if scum are good players. We just need to follow clues and go with the flow. Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction. Below are the votes just before I made my point. They should be important so neither side pulls ahead. It would be better to chance a stab at a team that has twice the members left of the other team to prevent a rout. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 08:09 bumatlarge wrote: For Masq, + Show Spoiler + 18 - Glasse, CubEdIn, Nemesis, aztrorisk, Yogy, Neos, spydr, zerroth, Aeres, LSB, pandain, Hyperbola, seRapH, Flicky, Therick, TheMunkey, Bill Murray, coagulation For Veldril + Show Spoiler + 17 - Lucktar, jodogohoo, YummyBlaBla, kenpachi, annul, jcarlsoniv, youngminii, southrawrea, Masq, grandmoose, bumatlarge, HeavOnEarth, oddo123, thegilaboy, kingjames01, Lexpar, MetalFace These list are important. If I die, let these guide you once you learn the alignment of the two. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:27 bumatlarge wrote: I thought my Veldril -> Masq post was important  Veldril defended masq, and masq didn't associate with him. Veldril could be scum protecting himself or legitimate towny with opinions, or Masq is innocent thats all well, or hes scum and it's a much greater chance that veldril is on his team. But unless a glaringly obvious lynch comes forward, but between veldril and masq, could dissect which sides we are dealing with. But at a certain point, it does become advantageous for a scum team with >4 players to start town killing... Please go over the win conditions people and realize what we are supposed to be doing here. They are far from ordinary win conditions. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:31 bumatlarge wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:11 Lexpar wrote: Pandain and bumatlarge you've yet to defend your arguments. Pandain: bumatlarge: Me: I've posted a list of pre-switch votes. Since no one seems to care, I guess they still hold some water. No one is band-wagoning. Just PLEASE pay attention to votes, they are tell tale signs of faction mongering unless people aimlessly throw votes on nobodies. I suggest people investigate those individuals. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
553 Posts
On October 14 2010 08:39 bumatlarge wrote: I'm happy someone is doing what I suggested yesterday, regardless of whether or not I influenced them. Although I REALLY misinterpreted Dr.H's conditions for town (8 of each instead of 8 in general), this list is still as important as it was before, we just have to be as consistent. It would be best to take out a mafia next, but whoever is the scummiest should be lynched. We should consider double lynch, but it would be dangerous considering both sides just need to kill each other. Veldril should die anyway even if he is most likely another vampire, it's better then hitting townies. and a +2 win margin for mafia isnt all that much so early if we can read them well. As for my own defense, I wont change anything I've said. Use your own judgement. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote: RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here. 1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something. 2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum. 3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction The first two points have been discussed to death, so make your own observations there. I underestimated what Bill said regarding the sides. I failed to realize that the objective of either side is to kill the other team, regardless of towns numbers. It's almost as if town and mafia roles are reversed, since town just need to outnumber the remaining 8 scum. That means that either side cant win until much later if they lose one member... which is assumed they will if the other faction is smart. If the two candidates for lynch (masq/veldril) contain at least one scum, we can be certain that right now on the lists contain a good number of scum from the opposite faction, depending on what they are. We just need mafia/vamps to kill each other decisively. If they don't they risk the other faction rising ahead. Therefore both teams need to rely on end game tactics. Heh, it's almost as if we don't need to do anything if scum are good players. We just need to follow clues and go with the flow. Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction. Below are the votes just before I made my point. They should be important so neither side pulls ahead. It would be better to chance a stab at a team that has twice the members left of the other team to prevent a rout. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 08:09 bumatlarge wrote: For Masq, + Show Spoiler + 18 - Glasse, CubEdIn, Nemesis, aztrorisk, Yogy, Neos, spydr, zerroth, Aeres, LSB, pandain, Hyperbola, seRapH, Flicky, Therick, TheMunkey, Bill Murray, coagulation For Veldril + Show Spoiler + 17 - Lucktar, jodogohoo, YummyBlaBla, kenpachi, annul, jcarlsoniv, youngminii, southrawrea, Masq, grandmoose, bumatlarge, HeavOnEarth, oddo123, thegilaboy, kingjames01, Lexpar, MetalFace These list are important. If I die, let these guide you once you learn the alignment of the two. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:27 bumatlarge wrote: I thought my Veldril -> Masq post was important Veldril defended masq, and masq didn't associate with him. Veldril could be scum protecting himself or legitimate towny with opinions, or Masq is innocent thats all well, or hes scum and it's a much greater chance that veldril is on his team. But unless a glaringly obvious lynch comes forward, but between veldril and masq, could dissect which sides we are dealing with. But at a certain point, it does become advantageous for a scum team with >4 players to start town killing... Please go over the win conditions people and realize what we are supposed to be doing here. They are far from ordinary win conditions. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:31 bumatlarge wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:11 Lexpar wrote: Pandain and bumatlarge you've yet to defend your arguments. Pandain: bumatlarge: Me: I've posted a list of pre-switch votes. Since no one seems to care, I guess they still hold some water. No one is band-wagoning. Just PLEASE pay attention to votes, they are tell tale signs of faction mongering unless people aimlessly throw votes on nobodies. I suggest people investigate those individuals. Double lynch? Not a thing I'm familiar with; how does it work? And my name was on that list of late vote-switchers, so I should probably defend myself: I wanted to vote for someone who hadn't posted much to try and get hem to react and reveal information (assuming that others would vote for them as well or that I could convince some, which I was working on unsuccessfully in PMland). That's why I voted for Kenpachi, and then, after being informed that I was an idiot for saying that in my post about him, HeavOnEarth, because Pandain was already pushing for him, I figured it was a good person to try and get a reaction from. Then seeing that absolutely nobody else I talked to agreed with this chain of thought, I voted Masq so that my vote wouldn't be wasted. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:02 Kpyolysis32 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2010 08:39 bumatlarge wrote: I'm happy someone is doing what I suggested yesterday, regardless of whether or not I influenced them. Although I REALLY misinterpreted Dr.H's conditions for town (8 of each instead of 8 in general), this list is still as important as it was before, we just have to be as consistent. It would be best to take out a mafia next, but whoever is the scummiest should be lynched. We should consider double lynch, but it would be dangerous considering both sides just need to kill each other. Veldril should die anyway even if he is most likely another vampire, it's better then hitting townies. and a +2 win margin for mafia isnt all that much so early if we can read them well. As for my own defense, I wont change anything I've said. Use your own judgement. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote: RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here. 1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something. 2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum. 3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction The first two points have been discussed to death, so make your own observations there. I underestimated what Bill said regarding the sides. I failed to realize that the objective of either side is to kill the other team, regardless of towns numbers. It's almost as if town and mafia roles are reversed, since town just need to outnumber the remaining 8 scum. That means that either side cant win until much later if they lose one member... which is assumed they will if the other faction is smart. If the two candidates for lynch (masq/veldril) contain at least one scum, we can be certain that right now on the lists contain a good number of scum from the opposite faction, depending on what they are. We just need mafia/vamps to kill each other decisively. If they don't they risk the other faction rising ahead. Therefore both teams need to rely on end game tactics. Heh, it's almost as if we don't need to do anything if scum are good players. We just need to follow clues and go with the flow. Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction. Below are the votes just before I made my point. They should be important so neither side pulls ahead. It would be better to chance a stab at a team that has twice the members left of the other team to prevent a rout. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 08:09 bumatlarge wrote: For Masq, + Show Spoiler + 18 - Glasse, CubEdIn, Nemesis, aztrorisk, Yogy, Neos, spydr, zerroth, Aeres, LSB, pandain, Hyperbola, seRapH, Flicky, Therick, TheMunkey, Bill Murray, coagulation For Veldril + Show Spoiler + 17 - Lucktar, jodogohoo, YummyBlaBla, kenpachi, annul, jcarlsoniv, youngminii, southrawrea, Masq, grandmoose, bumatlarge, HeavOnEarth, oddo123, thegilaboy, kingjames01, Lexpar, MetalFace These list are important. If I die, let these guide you once you learn the alignment of the two. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:27 bumatlarge wrote: I thought my Veldril -> Masq post was important Veldril defended masq, and masq didn't associate with him. Veldril could be scum protecting himself or legitimate towny with opinions, or Masq is innocent thats all well, or hes scum and it's a much greater chance that veldril is on his team. But unless a glaringly obvious lynch comes forward, but between veldril and masq, could dissect which sides we are dealing with. But at a certain point, it does become advantageous for a scum team with >4 players to start town killing... Please go over the win conditions people and realize what we are supposed to be doing here. They are far from ordinary win conditions. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:31 bumatlarge wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 09:11 Lexpar wrote: Pandain and bumatlarge you've yet to defend your arguments. Pandain: bumatlarge: Me: I've posted a list of pre-switch votes. Since no one seems to care, I guess they still hold some water. No one is band-wagoning. Just PLEASE pay attention to votes, they are tell tale signs of faction mongering unless people aimlessly throw votes on nobodies. I suggest people investigate those individuals. Double lynch? Not a thing I'm familiar with; how does it work? And my name was on that list of late vote-switchers, so I should probably defend myself: I wanted to vote for someone who hadn't posted much to try and get hem to react and reveal information (assuming that others would vote for them as well or that I could convince some, which I was working on unsuccessfully in PMland). That's why I voted for Kenpachi, and then, after being informed that I was an idiot for saying that in my post about him, HeavOnEarth, because Pandain was already pushing for him, I figured it was a good person to try and get a reaction from. Then seeing that absolutely nobody else I talked to agreed with this chain of thought, I voted Masq so that my vote wouldn't be wasted. Oh wait there might not be double lynch my bad | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Ahh well. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:52 BrownBear wrote: That's too bad... in a game with a full 1/3 of the participants as Mafia, double lynches might have actually been helpful to us. Ahh well. They're also complicating an already complicated setup.  | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:52 BrownBear wrote: That's too bad... in a game with a full 1/3 of the participants as Mafia, double lynches might have actually been helpful to us. Ahh well. I decided that with lynches, grim reapers, jack o lanterns, and a combined 6 scum kill power, there are more than enough kills to go around. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
I'm catching up now and I'm on page 13. I thought I'd share this nice gem with you guys that I noticed. On October 11 2010 15:48 Bill Murray wrote: LOL. YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU'D BUDDY WHEN MAFIA, AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH MASQ. I DON'T MEAN TO BE FUNNY WITH HALLOWEEN-REFERENCES, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN MR VAMPIRE LOL Let me clarify: NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN MR VAMPIRE LOL Let me clarify more: MR VAMPIRE Let me clarify 3 more times: VAMPIRE VAMPIRE VAMPIRE I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm looking for vampires AND mafia...anyone have thoughts on this? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 14 2010 10:02 KhrisKruel wrote: Hey guys sorry I missed out on day 1. I didn't have access to the thread. I'm quite amazed we got a scum on day 1, but then again I'm not used to clue dynamics. I'm catching up now and I'm on page 13. I thought I'd share this nice gem with you guys that I noticed. Let me clarify: Let me clarify more: Let me clarify 3 more times: I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm looking for vampires AND mafia...anyone have thoughts on this? well he used the coffin reference.... and bill has been modkilled already.... | ||
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