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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
September 09 2010 01:08 GMT
#41
On September 09 2010 09:48 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 09:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On September 09 2010 08:39 Incognito wrote:
I would like to comment on Village Idiot.

The last game it existed, all it did was disrupt the town and that's it. I think the role should actually have strategic impact on the game. One change I would suggest is that lynching the Village Idiot ends the game immediately with a Village Idiot win. That's right. No chance for mafia or town to win anymore. While this may seem volatile and could easily ruin a large 50 player game where people put countless hours into behavior analysis, this is a much smaller game. And lets face it, people don't pour hours into behavior analysis like they used to in the past. A little fun and games along with serious consequences for lynching the village idiot might actually get people to analyze more. It also makes the village idiot think seriously about his role. Otherwise its kinda like a "bummer" role where you have no incentive to play the game other than some mild bragging rights if you succeed. Ending the game after the village idiot's death gives them a LOT more bragging rights and forces people to think


As someone who has played this role, I completely agree with it. VI isn't fun to play unless you add this factor in.


What ? i dont recall you getting this role? I thought it was RoL and I thought we've only used the role once.


RoL had it, then he faked being jack and someone randomly picked out ace as mafia (ace was gf) and ace ragequit. Caller immediately reran game and I got VI. I faked insane dt and got myself lynched lol.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2010 01:11 GMT
#42
all i have to do is act normal, and i'll get lynched
this is gonna be great
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 09 2010 01:26 GMT
#43
On September 09 2010 09:48 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 09:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On September 09 2010 08:39 Incognito wrote:
I would like to comment on Village Idiot.

The last game it existed, all it did was disrupt the town and that's it. I think the role should actually have strategic impact on the game. One change I would suggest is that lynching the Village Idiot ends the game immediately with a Village Idiot win. That's right. No chance for mafia or town to win anymore. While this may seem volatile and could easily ruin a large 50 player game where people put countless hours into behavior analysis, this is a much smaller game. And lets face it, people don't pour hours into behavior analysis like they used to in the past. A little fun and games along with serious consequences for lynching the village idiot might actually get people to analyze more. It also makes the village idiot think seriously about his role. Otherwise its kinda like a "bummer" role where you have no incentive to play the game other than some mild bragging rights if you succeed. Ending the game after the village idiot's death gives them a LOT more bragging rights and forces people to think


As someone who has played this role, I completely agree with it. VI isn't fun to play unless you add this factor in.


What ? i dont recall you getting this role? I thought it was RoL and I thought we've only used the role once.


BC did get it once before. I remember him ranting on MSN how retarded it was.
靈魂交響曲
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
September 09 2010 01:27 GMT
#44
Hey guys, just wanted you all to know I'm inactive already!
(j/k, working behind the scenes where we make every one of you VI's)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 09 2010 01:30 GMT
#45
On September 09 2010 10:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hey guys, just wanted you all to know I'm inactive already!
(j/k, working behind the scenes where we make every one of you VI's)


Hehe... speaking of which here are some of my evil diabolical plans if I am ever host.
1. Make everyone Village idiot.
2.Make everyone town.
3. Make everyone traitor.
4.Have 5 dts and everyone else millers.

Although I would love to include some of the epicness found in the ##Execute games and Bang bang or w/e.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 09 2010 01:32 GMT
#46
On September 09 2010 10:30 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 10:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hey guys, just wanted you all to know I'm inactive already!
(j/k, working behind the scenes where we make every one of you VI's)


Hehe... speaking of which here are some of my evil diabolical plans if I am ever host.
1. Make everyone Village idiot.
2.Make everyone town.
3. Make everyone traitor.
4.Have 5 dts and everyone else millers.

Although I would love to include some of the epicness found in the ##Execute games and Bang bang or w/e.

#1!!!!!!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
September 09 2010 01:55 GMT
#47
On September 09 2010 10:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 09:48 Incognito wrote:
On September 09 2010 09:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On September 09 2010 08:39 Incognito wrote:
I would like to comment on Village Idiot.

The last game it existed, all it did was disrupt the town and that's it. I think the role should actually have strategic impact on the game. One change I would suggest is that lynching the Village Idiot ends the game immediately with a Village Idiot win. That's right. No chance for mafia or town to win anymore. While this may seem volatile and could easily ruin a large 50 player game where people put countless hours into behavior analysis, this is a much smaller game. And lets face it, people don't pour hours into behavior analysis like they used to in the past. A little fun and games along with serious consequences for lynching the village idiot might actually get people to analyze more. It also makes the village idiot think seriously about his role. Otherwise its kinda like a "bummer" role where you have no incentive to play the game other than some mild bragging rights if you succeed. Ending the game after the village idiot's death gives them a LOT more bragging rights and forces people to think


As someone who has played this role, I completely agree with it. VI isn't fun to play unless you add this factor in.


What ? i dont recall you getting this role? I thought it was RoL and I thought we've only used the role once.


RoL had it, then he faked being jack and someone randomly picked out ace as mafia (ace was gf) and ace ragequit. Caller immediately reran game and I got VI. I faked insane dt and got myself lynched lol.

That was a fun game to read to try to figure out what was going on lol
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 09 2010 03:34 GMT
#48
On September 09 2010 10:30 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 10:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hey guys, just wanted you all to know I'm inactive already!
(j/k, working behind the scenes where we make every one of you VI's)


Hehe... speaking of which here are some of my evil diabolical plans if I am ever host.
1. Make everyone Village idiot.
2.Make everyone town.
3. Make everyone traitor.
4.Have 5 dts and everyone else millers.

Although I would love to include some of the epicness found in the ##Execute games and Bang bang or w/e.

I have a funnier one.
5. 1 mafia and everyone else is a mad hatter.
Uff Da
fIamewheel
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 06:02:05
September 09 2010 06:01 GMT
#49
Qatol we were supposed to hold that idea for the fucutre -__-

Edit: how the hell did I misspell future so bad?
Oh well.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
September 09 2010 07:16 GMT
#50
On September 09 2010 15:01 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Qatol we were supposed to hold that idea for the fucutre -__-

Edit: how the hell did I misspell future so bad?
Oh well.

What happened to flamewheel? :O
lalala
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 09 2010 12:18 GMT
#51
On September 09 2010 15:01 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Qatol we were supposed to hold that idea for the fucutre -__-

Edit: how the hell did I misspell future so bad?
Oh well.

Ah, but I've been holding onto that one for over a year now (I thought of it around when the first Red Army Mafia happened). I've given up hope it will ever happen.
Uff Da
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
September 09 2010 17:08 GMT
#52
On September 09 2010 21:18 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 15:01 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Qatol we were supposed to hold that idea for the fucutre -__-

Edit: how the hell did I misspell future so bad?
Oh well.

Ah, but I've been holding onto that one for over a year now (I thought of it around when the first Red Army Mafia happened). I've given up hope it will ever happen.

Why didn't you host it? It wouldn't of been hard. Although you might wanna...I dunno...rules for MH

1 bomb, must move it every night or something...otherwise scum might be super fucked.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 17:14:18
September 09 2010 17:12 GMT
#53
Doesn't the fact that the VI ends the game make it too strong. It seems it is listed more for the uncertainty it brings I agree something should be done, but mafia can easily fake Town Idiot I would think as cover, which forces the town into an instant situation where if they mess up this one lynch the entire game is over.

I haven't played enough to know if this is too far fetched but the possibility of a role that instantly ends the game if lynched seems like a huge boon for the mafia. It just seems like the threat of the role is stronger than the role itself. If the role was 100% going to be in the game then I think it might make sense but not knowing if it is in the game means you have to play as if there is one and can never be sure if it exists.

Thoughts?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 17:44:11
September 09 2010 17:41 GMT
#54
On September 10 2010 02:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 21:18 Qatol wrote:
On September 09 2010 15:01 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Qatol we were supposed to hold that idea for the fucutre -__-

Edit: how the hell did I misspell future so bad?
Oh well.

Ah, but I've been holding onto that one for over a year now (I thought of it around when the first Red Army Mafia happened). I've given up hope it will ever happen.

Why didn't you host it? It wouldn't of been hard. Although you might wanna...I dunno...rules for MH

1 bomb, must move it every night or something...otherwise scum might be super fucked.

Because I never got the impression enough people would be interested. And why does it matter how many bombs the hatters have? The game is basically guaranteed to only last 1-2 nights. Think about the chain reactions.

On September 10 2010 02:12 rastaban wrote:
Doesn't the fact that the VI ends the game make it too strong. It seems it is listed more for the uncertainty it brings I agree something should be done, but mafia can easily fake Town Idiot I would think as cover, which forces the town into an instant situation where if they mess up this one lynch the entire game is over.

I haven't played enough to know if this is too far fetched but the possibility of a role that instantly ends the game if lynched seems like a huge boon for the mafia. It just seems like the threat of the role is stronger than the role itself. If the role was 100% going to be in the game then I think it might make sense but not knowing if it is in the game means you have to play as if there is one and can never be sure if it exists.

Thoughts?

If it doesn't end the game, there is no point in the role. It just kinda sucks to have the role without ending the game because you aren't really involved in the game otherwise.
Uff Da
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 09 2010 18:26 GMT
#55
On September 10 2010 02:41 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 02:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:18 Qatol wrote:
On September 09 2010 15:01 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Qatol we were supposed to hold that idea for the fucutre -__-

Edit: how the hell did I misspell future so bad?
Oh well.

Ah, but I've been holding onto that one for over a year now (I thought of it around when the first Red Army Mafia happened). I've given up hope it will ever happen.

Why didn't you host it? It wouldn't of been hard. Although you might wanna...I dunno...rules for MH

1 bomb, must move it every night or something...otherwise scum might be super fucked.

Because I never got the impression enough people would be interested. And why does it matter how many bombs the hatters have? The game is basically guaranteed to only last 1-2 nights. Think about the chain reactions.

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 02:12 rastaban wrote:
Doesn't the fact that the VI ends the game make it too strong. It seems it is listed more for the uncertainty it brings I agree something should be done, but mafia can easily fake Town Idiot I would think as cover, which forces the town into an instant situation where if they mess up this one lynch the entire game is over.

I haven't played enough to know if this is too far fetched but the possibility of a role that instantly ends the game if lynched seems like a huge boon for the mafia. It just seems like the threat of the role is stronger than the role itself. If the role was 100% going to be in the game then I think it might make sense but not knowing if it is in the game means you have to play as if there is one and can never be sure if it exists.

Thoughts?

If it doesn't end the game, there is no point in the role. It just kinda sucks to have the role without ending the game because you aren't really involved in the game otherwise.


I agree, but as was stated it is almost never used, so it is more a role that its possibility affects the game (much like regardless of if a miller exists or not, if he can exist mafia can use it as a defense) It just seems to make the threat so much stronger since now town not only must weigh that lynching wrong will waste a lynch but that it also will end the game.

Maybe I am not explaining it right, but I guess what I mean is that if the traitor is so strong then it should probably be revealed at the start of the game if there is one or not. otherwise every lynch will need to be treated more like LYLO at least a little bit (maybe this is good as was mentioned earlier since it will increase analysis) though I guess mafia might be more inclined to night kill him just so town doesn't lynch him and lost the whole game.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 09 2010 23:04 GMT
#56
/in ^^
Adonai bless
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
September 10 2010 01:00 GMT
#57
Wait so what if VI gets NK'd?
lalala
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2010 01:11 GMT
#58
"one day cycle" in voting section
do you mean 48 hour day + 24 hour night or solely the day period?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 10 2010 03:10 GMT
#59
Standard 48-hr day, 24 hr. night. Sorry if that was confusing.

Also, the cycles will end at 11 PM EDT, because that fits into my schedule the best. Changing OP to reflect that.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 10 2010 03:15 GMT
#60
On September 10 2010 10:00 youngminii wrote:
Wait so what if VI gets NK'd?


He/she doesn't win. They only win if they get LYNCHED, so NKs, vigi hits, mad hatters, and modkills all don't count as them winning.
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