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citi.zen
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Ace
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
in either case, now we take care of Brownbear. He's the most likely person to be roleblocker. And if he's not, then we let rastaban mod kill himself because there might be no roleblocker. Anyway, I'm going to wait for some night results and any new thoughts/ideas, but as of now people should remember that our target for this day will be Brownbear. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On September 04 2010 06:21 Pandain wrote: Tracking to confirm will result in a negative. Whether he is mafia day vig or town day vig will result in the same result. Stick with the plan. I was talking about tracking Rastaban....not divinek....claim he was roleblocked, use his hit as mafia kill, mafia not hit. obv. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On September 04 2010 08:56 Pandain wrote: Also, I suggest medics RNG between the confirmed townies: Sinquity, Opz, Citizen, JeeJee(if fishball is town), and Bumatlarge. I know I will. I am not to be protected. I'm a waste to protect. I won't be killed for the rest of the game. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 01 2010 22:16 citi.zen wrote: To keep track of it all: #1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2 #2 #3 LSB --- traitor, claims to have gotten visited night 2 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 Fishball --- Claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2 #9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball Then he claimed medic? #10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2 #11 BrownBear #12 #13 #14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball #15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1 #16 #17 #18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2 #19 Pandain --- Claimed Pardoner, then Martyr, then pardoner again, then said it was all a joke Plan draft list under the spoiler. + Show Spoiler + #1 Comp Vig #2 Bad Santa #3 Prince of Darkness #4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD #5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each) #6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role #8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role #9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role #10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.) #15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #17 50% role cop, 50% other #18 50% Joat, 50% other #19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other #20 50% tracker, 50% other From this list we can see that the only people who it's possible to be roleblocker are: 1. Brownbear 2.Me We should lynch brownbear today, then if he's not roleblocker I should say we should lynch. In the case after lynching/killing both of us you find out none of us are roleblocker, than town should hit Rastaban as there obviously is no roleblocker. Of course, if a townie picked roleblocker he should say so now, as that would ruin everything. I know it was partly discussed that it might be good for a townie to pick roleblocker so if a townie went along and did that then he should claim. Still, that's unlikely at best and even more doubt is thrown on it due to the fact that rastaban claims he was roleblocked night 2. Why would townie do that(unless he was going on his own inititive). So if either Sinquity or (possibly) Opz(since opz has claimed like 3 things now) are roleblocker, than you should claim now. Confirmed townies: Bumatlarge,citizen, Sinquity, opz, Unconfirmed: Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Heck, lets just let rastaban modkill himself, and then it will be 4(3 if mafia succesfully kill someone during the day) confirmed townies to 3 unconfirmed(2 if fishball succesfully checked me.) I think if Fishball managed to check me, and is town(therefore doesn't lie.), it will be 2 unconfirmed. But most likely if there is a roleblocker, he will have rb'd Fishball. However, anyone else find it strange that the CV wasn't roleblocked? Unless, again he was scared that Citizen would succesfully track him and therefore didn't use his power. So the plan: 1. Lynch Brownbear a)if mafia.... i.)if roleblocker, go through unconfirmed such as me(if fishball was roleblocked), divinek, rastaban, and fishball. Preffered order I suppose would be divinek, then me, then fishball, then rastaban. In addition, you guys might want to have rastaban let himself be modkilled. b.)If town, then rastaban is mafia(since there is no roleblocker.) We kill him, and hopefully game is over. Everyone follow/agree? Then you guys can go through the rest of us I s'pose. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On September 04 2010 10:53 Pandain wrote: cool beans cool beans. Fishball(if he checked me) can confirm me. Unless he was roleblocked -.-. in either case, now we take care of Brownbear. He's the most likely person to be roleblocker. And if he's not, then we let rastaban mod kill himself because there might be no roleblocker. Anyway, I'm going to wait for some night results and any new thoughts/ideas, but as of now people should remember that our target for this day will be Brownbear. And one more thing. Rastaban cannot strategically modkill himself. It's against the rules. -______________- | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
Unconfirmed: Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Brownbear(will be lynched today), Rastaban, Fishball. An unconfirmed person cannot "confirm" you at this time. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV
Without CV
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... | ||
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citi.zen
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
[QUOTE]On September 01 2010 22:16 citi.zen wrote: So the plan: 1. Lynch Brownbear a)if mafia.... i.)if roleblocker, go through unconfirmed such as me(if fishball was roleblocked), divinek, rastaban, and fishball. Preffered order I suppose would be divinek, then me, then fishball, then rastaban. In addition, you guys might want to have rastaban let himself be modkilled. b.)If town, then rastaban is mafia(since there is no roleblocker.) We kill him, and hopefully game is over. Everyone follow/agree? Then you guys can go through the rest of us I s'pose. [/QUOTE] Disagree. Primarily with 1b's conclusion - if BrownBear's town, that says nothing about the existence of a Roleblocker or lack thereof. The roleblocker could be you. Steering the town doesn't clear you, and leaving out critical possibilities such as that out makes you even more suspicious. Your recent history of sporadic lying doesn't help either. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
EBWOP: On September 04 2010 11:15 Pandain wrote: So the plan: 1. Lynch Brownbear a)if mafia.... i.)if roleblocker, go through unconfirmed such as me(if fishball was roleblocked), divinek, rastaban, and fishball. Preffered order I suppose would be divinek, then me, then fishball, then rastaban. In addition, you guys might want to have rastaban let himself be modkilled. b.)If town, then rastaban is mafia(since there is no roleblocker.) We kill him, and hopefully game is over. Everyone follow/agree? Then you guys can go through the rest of us I s'pose. Disagree. Primarily with 1b's conclusion - if BrownBear's town, that says nothing about the existence of a Roleblocker or lack thereof. The roleblocker could be you. Steering the town doesn't clear you, and leaving out critical possibilities such as that out makes you even more suspicious. Your recent history of sporadic lying doesn't help either. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
On September 04 2010 11:50 citi.zen wrote: Wait, was DTA mason or "mason-er" - perhaps the person BM had connected with? Oh huh, I hadn't considered this. Never played in a game with a Mason before, so not entirely sure how the Mason role works. Surely the recipient doesn't gain a role. Given that there's only one Mason in the game, I assumed DTA was CopyCat and therefore got Bill Murray's role when he died. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote: DTA was copycat huh (pretty sure there was only 1 mason this game, but with BM dying first CC would get his role)? Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV
Without CV
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... Remember, at some point if we have a few people checked by Fishball, we can just lynch him to "confirm" them. Killing these people off makes that option less attractive. Batman, Pacman same shit different mask :-) | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 04 2010 11:55 SiNiquity wrote: \ Disagree. Primarily with 1b's conclusion - if BrownBear's town, that says nothing about the existence of a Roleblocker or lack thereof. The roleblocker could be you. Steering the town doesn't clear you, and leaving out critical possibilities such as that out makes you even more suspicious. Your recent history of sporadic lying doesn't help either. IF brownbear is town, we should lynch me(as I could be rightly roleblocker.) Forgive me, I said we should do it in the paragraph but then forgot to put it in the plan. Thank you. But then after doing that, we should lynch Rastaban. Because me and Brownbear are the only ones who could be mafia. On September 04 2010 11:16 ~OpZ~ wrote: And one more thing. Rastaban cannot strategically modkill himself. It's against the rules. -______________- Oh yeah, frick. Hmm... we may have to waste a lynch on him then. On September 04 2010 11:32 citi.zen wrote: So DTA was the 2nd mason. Odd there is no other role for him - a mafia picking that far down could safely go GF I would think. Divinek killed the other mason day 1. The mafia would probably try to use BM in more creative ways? I don't know, but it slightly moves Divinek towards the back of the list in my mind. An unconfirmed person cannot "confirm" you at this time. True beans, true beans. In fact, perhaps we should have the CV kill Fishball IF fishball was able to succesfully check me. Then he could confirm me, and we'd have both one less unconfirmed and one more confirmed. So the plan: We lynch Brownbear a.If mafia i.If roleblocker, then we have CV kill Divinek, fishball check me, and then lynch Fishball in the mroning. Medics can protect confirmed throughout that. ii.If not, then we have the CV kill me, and in the morning lynch rastaban once you find out im innocent. If in the chance that the CV is roleblocked, then you can lynch me right away. Because everyone else must be another role, and I must be mafia(because Fishball and Divinek and Rastaban are all confirmed roles, none of which are roleblockers.) Okay, I'm working on the part where if he is town(which I think unlikely anyway.) But I need to know some stuff: 1. Is there a town roleblocker 2. Citizen, did you track brownbear. Was it succesful? 3.Ace, if BM masoned up with Darth, will darth show up as mason. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
So citizen: 1.Did you track Brownbear? If so, what did you find? 2. Were you roleblocked?(would assume no but just making sure) 3. If you didn't track brownbear, who did you and what did you find? If you have succesfully tracked Brownbear, than I'm pretty sure we've won the game.] In addition, Sinquity, Opz, I'd like you to both confirm that none of you are roleblocker. Also, I'd like to start throwing the option out there that maybe Opz should claim(as if he is methman than we don't have to protect him.) | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On September 04 2010 12:06 Pandain wrote: IF brownbear is town, we should lynch me(as I could be rightly roleblocker.) Forgive me, I said we should do it in the paragraph but then forgot to put it in the plan. Thank you. But then after doing that, we should lynch Rastaban. Because me and Brownbear are the only ones who could be mafia. Oh yeah, frick. Hmm... we may have to waste a lynch on him then. True beans, true beans. In fact, perhaps we should have the CV kill Fishball IF fishball was able to succesfully check me. Then he could confirm me, and we'd have both one less unconfirmed and one more confirmed. So the plan: We lynch Brownbear a.If mafia i.If roleblocker, then we have CV kill Divinek, fishball check me, and then lynch Fishball in the mroning. Medics can protect confirmed throughout that. ii.If not, then we have the CV kill me, and in the morning lynch rastaban once you find out im innocent. If in the chance that the CV is roleblocked, then you can lynch me right away. Because everyone else must be another role, and I must be mafia(because Fishball and Divinek and Rastaban are all confirmed roles, none of which are roleblockers.) Okay, I'm working on the part where if he is town(which I think unlikely anyway.) But I need to know some stuff: 1. Is there a town roleblocker 2. Citizen, did you track brownbear. Was it succesful? 3.Ace, if BM masoned up with Darth, will darth show up as mason. i think that sounds most reasonable. I'm willing to die if brown bear is role blocker, im also cool with you dying because of all your lying if he's RB'er. But i do think that after brownbear the next lynch should be rasta for sure. I dont see how it changes much if he's town. I still think you or me should be cv'ed and then rasta lynched the next day. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
##vote brownbear | ||
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