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##Vote Pandain
Him or Fishball. Fishball has been beyond useful.
Stop belaying suspicion on SiNiquity, wasn't he on the ELF list, along with me and citizen? Why are you ignoring that Pandain?
Why should I need to claim at any rate. I was, not only checked by Fishball, but I was also cleared by Bad Santa.
And Fishballs checking ELFs....Why did Fishball check Sin? Wasn't the bad santa list out by this point? That seems suspect. And where is Fishball AND citizen.
Anyone who has a vote on anyone right now is EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS.
We need to think about this shit. Not jump into shit. You people are going to get a townie lynched by bandwagoning, and if we lose a in-the-bag game because you guys decide to vote before hearing everyone? PM prod a hoe. Fuck.
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Also, Pandain. You should be the one claiming. You've claimed pardoner, then lied about it, twice. Said you removed the Pardon Via PM, when Ace said you can't remove a pardon on PM. You also claimed Martyr, but have mysteriously been living.
I think Fishballz needs some lovin. And you definitely need to "martyr" citizen.
Anyway...Eating something. Be back later
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On September 05 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##Vote Pandain
Him or Fishball. Fishball has been beyond useful.
Stop belaying suspicion on SiNiquity, wasn't he on the ELF list, along with me and citizen? Why are you ignoring that Pandain?
Why should I need to claim at any rate. I was, not only checked by Fishball, but I was also cleared by Bad Santa.
And Fishballs checking ELFs....Why did Fishball check Sin? Wasn't the bad santa list out by this point? That seems suspect. And where is Fishball AND citizen.
Anyone who has a vote on anyone right now is EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS.
We need to think about this shit. Not jump into shit. You people are going to get a townie lynched by bandwagoning, and if we lose a in-the-bag game because you guys decide to vote before hearing everyone? PM prod a hoe. Fuck.
1. I never ever put suscipsion on Sinquity, you should realize that I had to th ink long and hard about changing my plan because I knew he was confirmed.
And I am martyr. Anyone who doesn't realize that all was a joke is a silly panda. And voting for me as of now is just stupid. Let's vote off from lists of two and finding information(aka, such as lynching brownbear will find info and lynching rasta will find info) instead of starting a bandwagon on me.
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...So don't vote for the unconfirmed martyr?
List of night actions please pandain.
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Pandain. You are working under this assumption you are some how confirmed?
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And lynching fishball at any situation right now, stupid as hell. Lynch for information, nah. We don't need to lynch him to confirm his checks? Why? Most of his checks are confirmed via Chaoser.
I'm with Rastaban on Divinek, but I think Rastaban should CV him.
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On September 05 2010 06:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Pandain. You are working under this assumption you are some how confirmed?
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And lynching fishball at any situation right now, stupid as hell. Lynch for information, nah. We don't need to lynch him to confirm his checks? Why? Most of his checks are confirmed via Chaoser.
I'm with Rastaban on Divinek, but I think Rastaban should CV him.
ill gladly die for the team if you think it's necessary, but id much rather we hit a mafia first. Especially if they're controlling a useful role like CV or something. I think there can't be that many threatening roles left other than that can there?
But pandain looks so juicy with his trail of lies. It's just like real life when you call someone on their bullshit and you corner then and they're 'OH DUDE I WAS JUST JOKING HOW COULD YOU NOT TELL'. Then again padain is 12 years old so maybe that is his idea of humour. And he has made all these big long posts that do look all townie like, maybe he's trying reeeeal hard. Almost the opposite of what I'm doing.
I really feel like pandain is mafia, im sad that im too lazy to back this up with analysis, but it really is what i feel. Oh look im fanning flames by letting you know my opinion. Whatever use your own brain too! And though rastas analysis of me looks genuine, it still reminds me of that game he got chaoser killed where chaoser was a townie as i am, and he himself was mafia. But that reason alone really doesnt convince me of him, but we really should be taking a closer look at our CV and not be giving mafia 2KP at a near end to our game.
Did rasta ever reply to my reply of his analysis? You shouldn't have some cookie cutter mold for what people have to act like to be of another alignment.
Also opz why did you quote my post and then just talk about how bb voted for himself? Was that a mistake or were you gonna reply to it cause i really do want some real thoughts on that!
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If your town. And you die. Your death isn't usually helpful for the town. While I think you are mafia, I equally feel the same about BrownBear. I'm waiting for Fishball and Citizen to speak.
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Rastaban just killed a red, no? He had ample cover to pick someone other than DTA.
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On September 05 2010 06:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Pandain. You are working under this assumption you are some how confirmed?
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And lynching fishball at any situation right now, stupid as hell. Lynch for information, nah. We don't need to lynch him to confirm his checks? Why? Most of his checks are confirmed via Chaoser.
I'm with Rastaban on Divinek, but I think Rastaban should CV him.
Mmm... my plans never base around that I'm confirmed. I constantly say that I'm unconfirmed.
And in fact, I think lynching Fishball could be a very useful thing to do. Think about it: If he checked me and he checks another person tonight, than we can have both two more confirmed people and one less confirmed(after we lynch Fishball.) I think that's a very good trade imo.
As for my night actions... lets see.
Night one: Rastaban
Night two: JeeJee
Night three: Citizen.
Also Divinek I get the weird impression you don't like me :p
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On September 05 2010 02:38 SiNiquity wrote:Agreed  ## Unvote Rastaban (I don't want a bandwagon going anywhere while I'm gone this evening). Info I'd like to hear before lynching anyone: - Who did Fishball check?
- Who did Citi.zen track?
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On September 05 2010 06:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Pandain. You are working under this assumption you are some how confirmed?
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And lynching fishball at any situation right now, stupid as hell. Lynch for information, nah. We don't need to lynch him to confirm his checks? Why? Most of his checks are confirmed via Chaoser.
I'm with Rastaban on Divinek, but I think Rastaban should CV him.
This seems like the wisest course of action. We lynch BrownBear now, and I shoot Divinek tonight.
That means even in a worst case scenario, we start tomorrow with half the town confirmed
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## Vote BrownBear
Oops missed the "##vote" part.
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On September 05 2010 01:17 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 01:07 SiNiquity wrote:On September 04 2010 12:04 Ace wrote:
DTA was Copy Cat. I'll edit the post to clear up confusion. Excellent. Then this gives us a little bit of additional information: If Rastaban is town, then Divinek is townor equivalently, If Divinek is Mafia, then Rastaban is MafiaThe reasoning behind this is thus: If Divinek were Mafia and Rasta town, then Divinek would've day vig'ed Rasta on day 1. Passing CV on to Darth (Mafia) would've been completely worth it. Also, more discussion here before lynching, thanks. + Show Spoiler [To CV or not to CV?] +On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote:DTA was copycat huh (pretty sure there was only 1 mason this game, but with BM dying first CC would get his role)? Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 6 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
Without CV- Lynch CV
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 7 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 5 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... Also who did Fish confirm last night? ## Vote Rastaban (unless someone can show me how the above plan is bad). *sigh* Stick with the plan, guys. There are a number of flaws in your argument. For example, you say that if Divinek was mafia than he would have certainly used his day vig on Rastaban. But doing that would be certain death for divinek, so I highly doubt even a 1-1 trade would be good. Add to that the fact that the mafia has roleblocker and you can tell they wouldn't even need to worry that much about him. In addition, you yourself say that they can both be town. What are you doing then? You're getting rid of a sure fire lynch we have right now(Brownbear) for a maybe, just maybe lynch. Furthormore, add what I have said above about Rastaban to the fact that Rastaban started the whole suscipsion of Divinek (which Mafia would NEVER do at this late in the game.) Change back to Brownbear Sinq. But just to clarify, you are not town roleblocker correct? Just have to make sure.
WRONG
he's even done it before like two games ago as mafia lol, ive said this like 3 times. Why will no one acknowledge the benefits of killing the CV today. I think the risk of him being mafia is great and dangerous enough in itself.
Though i suppose it'd be fine to kill him tomorrow too when it will be uh hm 7-2? or something. But if you do it that day it leads to 5-2 the next day worse case, but realistically you're gonna hit a mafia somewhere and it'll go 5-1 or something. That is unless pandain and rasta are mafia, and i really feel like at least one of those bastards is. Especially if BB flips town.
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On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote:With CV- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 6 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
Without CV- Lynch CV
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 7 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 5 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority).
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though sinq i dont think rasta dying and flipping red, cv, green whatever clears me in anyway way does it? I mean i was already suspicious of him and then comes out with this assault on me just like he did to chaoser in a former game, and since i know my alignment it makes me think he does as well!
I still think it's funny that people think id pick day vig and pop BM as mafia, it's a wifom thing but you guys need to get to know me better
oh and
##unvote
##vote rastaban
i wholly support this plan
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It wouldn't make sense any other way. If Rasta's town, then town controls the CV, the most powerful role in the game. If you were Mafia, and with Darth as CopyCat, the Day Vig is the weapon to have and was my largest fear in Radfield's plan - that the Day Vig would pop the CV, sacrificing himself but giving the CV to Mafia undercover. But instead Darth ended up with a Role at position 18 - the Mason.
So in my opinion, Rasta and Divinek is impossible.
Is this 100%? No. Mafia could just be terrible.
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EBWOP: Rasta and Divinek occurring simultaneously is impossible.
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Why am I still alive, I thought I asked to be hit ;/
I'm back for now, or to say, I'm free for this little moment.
Been out of town and will be going out again. Schedule quite packed for the long weekend.
Role Blocked last night, so I didn't get Pandain.
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I tracked Rastaban last night, to DTA.
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