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*Man do I have to write another story? Maybe a story about what happened. And why is it that I always imagine the whackest scenarios. I wish I was a doctor, then no one would be dead from scum. Maybe I just lied about being watcher, and Im actually a godfather gunless mafia? Maybe I have AIDS? I am a bum. Why am I posting on this forum playing a game with all these strangers? WHAT AM I DOING?!*
Bum's head popped off his mossy log in a feverish sweat. Oh what a nightmare that was. He quickly grabbed his batman mask (cant forget that) and went off into the night!
After bum's convoluted dream, he actually thought he was a doctor for a moment. "If I was a doctor, who would I protect? Well obviously not citizen because then theyd just roleblock me if they were gonna hit him... And the only other viable person is bumatlarge, but hes such an awesome guy, why would I shoot him?" So bum went off to JeeJee's house to get some advice, because bum was pretty sure he was a super secret doctor. Or a malicious bastard.
On his way, bum was stopped by commissioner Gordon.
"Evening, com-mish-en-er"
"Who are you?"
"...I'm batman..."
"Oh you look, uh you cant ask JeeJee's advice on anything, it's against the rules."
"What im just paying a visit"
"Well then thats your visit"
"Can I talk to him then?'
"No"
"Can I pretend to talk to him in my story?"
"Uh what yeah sure I guess..."
"Awesome"
After outsmarting Ace- uh I mean commissioner Gordon, Bum waltzeded off to JeeJee's house completely ignoring everyones advice on who to watch.
GG had a big house, bum hoped to have a big house like that one day, or even a small house, or a house at all. Bum knew the routine hands down now, fall over the fence, and see how goes in out the backdoor. Bum never thought it strange that he never checked who went out and in the front door, because that was another citizen's job. Bum started to climb the fence but an alarm went off. Suddenly ninjas, thousands of them...
Bum's head popped off his pillow, and Leonardo DeCaprio was standing over him. "We need to go deeper."
Bum's head popped off his pillow. "Jesus Christ!"
"Yes?"
"Is this another dream?"
"Uh no, dont you have a job to do?"
"Oh yeah!"
TIME MACHINE
Bum was waiting in the bushes by JeeJee's back patio. OoOoO a patio thinks hes better then everyone hope he gets shot... BANG. CRASH. JeeJee flew out the window straight at bum. Before Bum realized what hit him.. JeeJee hit him right in the forehead. So it took bum a really long time to realize what him because Bum blacked out.
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"DING DING DINGDINGDING! You're pokemon have been fully healed" Said Nurse Joy.
"wattttt?" Bum psyducked
"..wtf.." JeeJee drowzily uttered
"You are alive!" Bum chantsied!
"I am alive..." JeeJee mewtwo'd
"Not so fast."
Three guys in ridiculous costumes with funky hats and a large R on their chests were there so suddenly, that there is no adjective other then suddenly that can accurately depict how suddenly they were there.
"I find your lack of scuminess disturbing" One guy said who had a darth vader helmet on. And then he choked JeeJee to death.
"YOU BASTARD YOU KILLED JEEJEE."
"Yeah I know Im supposed to, thats how the game works."
"Oh I guess so..."
"Then you wouldn't mind me doing this" Nurse Joy said.
But it wasnt nurse joy it was A RANDOM RASTAFARIAN. POP. Right in the Darth helmet! Darth*insert random articles here* fell over and his comrades fled the scene.
"Aw JeeJee is dead..."
"He would have died anyway"
"What how?"
"I would have killed him."
"... Why?"
"I cant help it, its how the game works"
"Ok... then I guess I cant help but be batman?"
"Exactly"
"Nice"
Bum's head slowly rose from his pillow. Ace was standing over him.
"Uh sorry about that, you werent supposed to be hit..."
"Yeah but I saw all those people!"
"No you just had a crazy dream after you read my post. But you did mutter something about 3 guys throwing JeeJee out a window"
"Oh yeah, off the top of my head I remember the silouettes."
"Off the top of your head, JeeJee died!"
"HAHA ACE" Bum winked and pointed to ace with both fingers
Ace did a DK taunt from SSB, scratch the weird smoker cough noise
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i was the most obvious target this night
glhf town.
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Yesss. Finally, I'm dead. Time to SC2 with no worries.
@Ace: You spelled my name wrong D:.
@bum: ThienAn is my name >>. Not a bunch of articles. Pronounced teen-un.
GG ^^.
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So I'm stuck trying to think objectively, and since i'm invovled that's naturally hard to do. Out of the list of uncofirmed's we have uh
Unconfirmed:
Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Brownbear(will be lynched today), Rastaban, Fishball.
as pandain said.
so should i be the last one to die since you know i dont have a role that could be hurting town? (since we dont even know wtf pandain is) Or should my death be more pertinent because of my suspicious behaviour? Even though you know my only harm could be being a vanilla mafia at this point. Though would it be better to kill me because you know then you're not killing a potential blue role? But are blues even needed at this point, when we dont know if those are just mafia with roles?
help me out objective confirmed townies
Of course this is me wanting to live, but i'm also trying to look at it in a best way to help town.
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also doesnt bad santa seem broken as shit
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i keep forgetting there's only 2 mafia left. I guess it doesnt matter as much if bb flips red
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Hmmm some stuff I realized:
1. There MUST be a roleblocker since Rastaban is modkilled if he doesn't shoot. Unless mafia decided not to shoot and let the CV do it, which would be stupid(as they could've shot and still gotten away with it.)
2. Subversion...how did he die. Must've been the CV. Did we plan it? If not, that definitely helps clear him up.
I'm looking at all this and starting to get a definite pro-town feel from Rastaban.
On September 04 2010 15:18 Divinek wrote:
So I'm stuck trying to think objectively, and since i'm invovled that's naturally hard to do. Out of the list of uncofirmed's we have uh
Unconfirmed:
Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Brownbear(will be lynched today), Rastaban, Fishball.
as pandain said.
so should i be the last one to die since you know i dont have a role that could be hurting town? (since we dont even know wtf pandain is) Or should my death be more pertinent because of my suspicious behaviour? Even though you know my only harm could be being a vanilla mafia at this point. Though would it be better to kill me because you know then you're not killing a potential blue role? But are blues even needed at this point, when we dont know if those are just mafia with roles?
help me out objective confirmed townies
Of course this is me wanting to live, but i'm also trying to look at it in a best way to help town.
Well no role anymore (after roleblocker) can really be "hurting" town. Lynching Brownbear will happen no matter what. We need the additional info from last night in order to plan out the rest of the game though.
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Can we let citi.zen speak and say if he tracked me before bandwagoning me to death, please?
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On September 05 2010 00:58 BrownBear wrote:
Can we let citi.zen speak and say if he tracked me before bandwagoning me to death, please?
I'm sorry super secret friend, but even if you weren't tracked to anybody it wouldn't mean anything. You easily could have just not roleblocked.
Face it, your like the only one who could be roleblocker without there being a bigger conspiracy(aka Rastaban lying, Fishball being roleblocker the whole time wtf)
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On September 04 2010 12:04 Ace wrote:
DTA was Copy Cat. I'll edit the post to clear up confusion.
Excellent. Then this gives us a little bit of additional information:
If Rastaban is town, then Divinek is town
or equivalently,
If Divinek is Mafia, then Rastaban is Mafia
The reasoning behind this is thus: If Divinek were Mafia and Rasta town, then Divinek would've day vig'ed Rasta on day 1. Passing CV on to Darth (Mafia) would've been completely worth it.
Also, more discussion here before lynching, thanks.
+ Show Spoiler [To CV or not to CV?] +On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote:DTA was copycat huh (pretty sure there was only 1 mason this game, but with BM dying first CC would get his role)? Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 6 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
Without CV- Lynch CV
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 7 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 5 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm...
Also who did Fish confirm last night?
## Vote Rastaban (unless someone can show me how the above plan is bad).
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On September 05 2010 01:06 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 00:58 BrownBear wrote:
Can we let citi.zen speak and say if he tracked me before bandwagoning me to death, please? I'm sorry super secret friend, but even if you weren't tracked to anybody it wouldn't mean anything. You easily could have just not roleblocked. Face it, your like the only one who could be roleblocker without there being a bigger conspiracy(aka Rastaban lying, Fishball being roleblocker the whole time wtf)
Or you could be the roleblocker...
I dunno, either way, I guess I'm dead. W/e.
Vote: BrownBear
When I'm dead, do me a favor and catch the real mafia.
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On September 05 2010 01:07 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2010 12:04 Ace wrote:
DTA was Copy Cat. I'll edit the post to clear up confusion. Excellent. Then this gives us a little bit of additional information: If Rastaban is town, then Divinek is townor equivalently, If Divinek is Mafia, then Rastaban is MafiaThe reasoning behind this is thus: If Divinek were Mafia and Rasta town, then Divinek would've day vig'ed Rasta on day 1. Passing CV on to Darth (Mafia) would've been completely worth it. Also, more discussion here before lynching, thanks. + Show Spoiler [To CV or not to CV?] +On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote:DTA was copycat huh (pretty sure there was only 1 mason this game, but with BM dying first CC would get his role)? Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 6 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
Without CV- Lynch CV
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 7 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 5 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... Also who did Fish confirm last night? ## Vote Rastaban (unless someone can show me how the above plan is bad).
*sigh*
Stick with the plan, guys.
There are a number of flaws in your argument. For example, you say that if Divinek was mafia than he would have certainly used his day vig on Rastaban. But doing that would be certain death for divinek, so I highly doubt even a 1-1 trade would be good. Add to that the fact that the mafia has roleblocker and you can tell they wouldn't even need to worry that much about him.
In addition, you yourself say that they can both be town. What are you doing then? You're getting rid of a sure fire lynch we have right now(Brownbear) for a maybe, just maybe lynch.
Furthormore, add what I have said above about Rastaban to the fact that Rastaban started the whole suscipsion of Divinek(which Mafia would NEVER do at this late in the game.)
Change back to Brownbear Sinq. But just to clarify, you are not town roleblocker correct? Just have to make sure.
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In addition, we have a new confuzzlement.
The Killing of Subversion.
How did he die?
CV couldn't have done it(wasn't able to yet.)
Mafia wouldn't have done it.
Day vig was already taken care of.
So that leaves two options: Joat or weak doctor. I'm thinking perhaps either of these should claim, especially the doctor. We need him to keep on "protecting" scum.
Or is there something I am missing....
Please discuss before claiming, don't want to give mafia unnecessary info if they don't need it.
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On September 05 2010 01:14 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 01:06 Pandain wrote:On September 05 2010 00:58 BrownBear wrote:
Can we let citi.zen speak and say if he tracked me before bandwagoning me to death, please? I'm sorry super secret friend, but even if you weren't tracked to anybody it wouldn't mean anything. You easily could have just not roleblocked. Face it, your like the only one who could be roleblocker without there being a bigger conspiracy(aka Rastaban lying, Fishball being roleblocker the whole time wtf) Or you could be the roleblocker... I dunno, either way, I guess I'm dead. W/e. Vote: BrownBearWhen I'm dead, do me a favor and catch the real mafia.
Arghhhhhhhhhhh fadoodle you. Logic says your mafia but my heart says your pure.(awww)
##Unvote BrownBear
Only until we get the info we need and can formulate a plan in which your town.
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On September 05 2010 01:17 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 01:07 SiNiquity wrote:On September 04 2010 12:04 Ace wrote:
DTA was Copy Cat. I'll edit the post to clear up confusion. Excellent. Then this gives us a little bit of additional information: If Rastaban is town, then Divinek is townor equivalently, If Divinek is Mafia, then Rastaban is MafiaThe reasoning behind this is thus: If Divinek were Mafia and Rasta town, then Divinek would've day vig'ed Rasta on day 1. Passing CV on to Darth (Mafia) would've been completely worth it. Also, more discussion here before lynching, thanks. + Show Spoiler [To CV or not to CV?] +On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote:DTA was copycat huh (pretty sure there was only 1 mason this game, but with BM dying first CC would get his role)? Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 6 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, CV, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
Without CV- Lynch CV
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 7 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 5 - 2
- Lynch,
- Mafia Kill, Tracker, Bullet Bill
- 3 - 2
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... Also who did Fish confirm last night? ## Vote Rastaban (unless someone can show me how the above plan is bad). *sigh* Stick with the plan, guys. There are a number of flaws in your argument. For example, you say that if Divinek was mafia than he would have certainly used his day vig on Rastaban. But doing that would be certain death for divinek, so I highly doubt even a 1-1 trade would be good. Add to that the fact that the mafia has roleblocker and you can tell they wouldn't even need to worry that much about him.
There is no guaranteed Roleblocker. Please stop purporting that as if it's fact. The gist of the argument here is LSB was Mafia, Rasta (as Mafia) would not want to shoot one of his own, therefore he aims at the Mafia kill (overlapping with it) and then claims roleblock. Rasta shooting LSB is the only time anyone in this game has been allegedly roleblocked.
Finally, let's look at your counterargument. You're supposing Divinek is Mafia, Rasta is town. I agree, Divinek would certainly die. However, the Mafia would then not only be in control of the CV (which again, in your scenario they were not), but we wouldn't even know who it was! This trade is easily worth the sacrifice of a single Mafia member.
In addition, you yourself say that they can both be town. What are you doing then? You're getting rid of a sure fire lynch we have right now(Brownbear) for a maybe, just maybe lynch.
I do not see anything guaranteeing that Brownbear is Mafia. I hope you're not basing your argument on the existence of a roleblocker.
Furthormore, add what I have said above about Rastaban to the fact that Rastaban started the whole suscipsion of Divinek(which Mafia would NEVER do at this late in the game.)
Agreed, Rasta Mafia and Divinek Mafia is an unlikely combination, which is why I suggest lynching Rasta over Divinek. The point of this lynch is three-fold:
- Remove the CV, which at this stage in the game I don't see being as useful (see the above argument which no one has addressed).
- Confirm whether there is a roleblocker (possibly making you and Brownbear primary targets again).
- Potentially confirm Divinek
I appreciate what you're trying to do Pandain, but let me be clear: I will not be ordered to do anything. Nor will I accept any plan that is essentially "ok guys so here's what I think? Good? OK good let's go." I've held off on voting previously because I wanted discussions only to find out the town's majority lynched someone by the time I come back. Sadly this town likes being led by the nose and will vote for the first plan thrown out there (which recently happens to be yours). I don't like it, primarily because you are not confirmed.
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On September 05 2010 01:22 Pandain wrote:
In addition, we have a new confuzzlement.
The Killing of Subversion.
How did he die?
CV couldn't have done it(wasn't able to yet.)
Mafia wouldn't have done it.
Day vig was already taken care of.
So that leaves two options: Joat or weak doctor. I'm thinking perhaps either of these should claim, especially the doctor. We need him to keep on "protecting" scum.
Or is there something I am missing....
Please discuss before claiming, don't want to give mafia unnecessary info if they don't need it.
Yes, you're missing the fact that Zeks admitted to it (Serial Killer).
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Alright then. Let's wait for some more info such as from Fishball and Citizen but as of now I'm actively considering lynching Rastaban.
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On September 05 2010 02:26 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 01:22 Pandain wrote:
In addition, we have a new confuzzlement.
The Killing of Subversion.
How did he die?
CV couldn't have done it(wasn't able to yet.)
Mafia wouldn't have done it.
Day vig was already taken care of.
So that leaves two options: Joat or weak doctor. I'm thinking perhaps either of these should claim, especially the doctor. We need him to keep on "protecting" scum.
Or is there something I am missing....
Please discuss before claiming, don't want to give mafia unnecessary info if they don't need it. Yes, you're missing the fact that Zeks admitted to it (Serial Killer).
*facepalm*
Epic...fail
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Agreed 
## Unvote Rastaban (I don't want a bandwagon going anywhere while I'm gone this evening).
Info I'd like to hear before lynching anyone:
- Who did Fishball check?
- Who did Citi.zen track?
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On September 04 2010 15:18 Divinek wrote:
So I'm stuck trying to think objectively, and since i'm invovled that's naturally hard to do. Out of the list of uncofirmed's we have uh
Unconfirmed:
Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Brownbear(will be lynched today), Rastaban, Fishball.
as pandain said.
so should i be the last one to die since you know i dont have a role that could be hurting town? (since we dont even know wtf pandain is) Or should my death be more pertinent because of my suspicious behaviour? Even though you know my only harm could be being a vanilla mafia at this point. Though would it be better to kill me because you know then you're not killing a potential blue role? But are blues even needed at this point, when we dont know if those are just mafia with roles?
help me out objective confirmed townies
Of course this is me wanting to live, but i'm also trying to look at it in a best way to help town.
On September 05 2010 01:14 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 01:06 Pandain wrote:On September 05 2010 00:58 BrownBear wrote:
Can we let citi.zen speak and say if he tracked me before bandwagoning me to death, please? I'm sorry super secret friend, but even if you weren't tracked to anybody it wouldn't mean anything. You easily could have just not roleblocked. Face it, your like the only one who could be roleblocker without there being a bigger conspiracy(aka Rastaban lying, Fishball being roleblocker the whole time wtf) Or you could be the roleblocker... I dunno, either way, I guess I'm dead. W/e. Vote: BrownBearWhen I'm dead, do me a favor and catch the real mafia.
I seriously hate when people vote for themselves in end game situations.
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