http://www.onemanga.com/Doubt/1/00-cover/
Doubt - Mafia Manga ^_^
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					http://www.onemanga.com/Doubt/1/00-cover/  | ||
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					The ending was epic though.  | ||
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					the 'true' scum does not count.  | ||
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					I READ THE WHOLE THING IN ONE DAY ALSO THIS IS IN THE MAFIA SIGNUP THREAD SOMEWHERE WHY HAVE I NOT BEEN USING PUNCTUATION  | ||
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					Gave me a "..." moment at the end. Entertaining, nevertheless. I personally like "Liar Game" way more, and I'm sure a lot of you would too. (Been following the manga for 3 years) http://www.onemanga.com/Liar_Game/  | ||
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					On July 04 2010 01:50 Fishball wrote: I read the whole thing, it felt a bit cheesy. Hesmyrr has already brought up a few flaws. Gave me a "..." moment at the end. Entertaining, nevertheless. I personally like "Liar Game" way more, and I'm sure a lot of you would too. (Been following the manga for 3 years) http://www.onemanga.com/Liar_Game/ Just got up to the bit where Game 2's just about to start and the girl asks "Are you a woman?". WIFOM ALERT WIFOM ALERT BEEP BEEP BEEP  | ||
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					FUCK I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SLEEP T_____T Also yeah Doubt did end up having some logical flaws... But that's okay I guess. Off to reading!  | ||
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					Wow. Most awesome use of prisoner's dilemma at the end of Game 2. Wow. Actually it's a bit different to prisoner's dilemma, but still awesome. wifomwifomwifom  | ||
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					Doubting people is simply a part of trying to get to know them... what many people do, that they call trust, is actually giving up on trying to understand others. And that has nothing to do with "trust", but is rather apathy. BAM best quote in the manga. GG  | ||
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					<3 Hi youngminii still up? o/  | ||
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					revival round's interesting he fucks them all up. big time.  | ||
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					Revival round owned yay.  | ||
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					Nao: "I took care of some girly stuff y'know?" Fukunaga: "...And you do realize you're talking to a guy, right?" Looooooool.  | ||
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					SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG. But so good.  | ||
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					Game 3 awesomeness. Okay maybe we should start consolidating posts. But it's 7 in the morning and I'm freezing. Fuck yeah Snuggie.  | ||
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					I mean Sunday morning.  | ||
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							flamewheel
							
							
						 
						
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					Yay I'm happy. Akiyama reminds me so much of L :3 + Show Spoiler [:3] + ![]() I lost T_T  | ||
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							youngminii
							
							
						 
						
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					Wow he really is like L.. More mature though. The girl is very.. plain, for lack of a better word.  | ||
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					http://www.onemanga.com/Liar_Game/66/01/  | ||
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					On July 04 2010 21:57 youngminii wrote: I'm still on ch60.. ![]() 78 now^^ Taking a break for Wimbledon though \o/ Revival Round II is kind of meh so far to me; not that epic.  | ||
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					 ?That's quite a bit. Although I would have done the same if I've never read it before. Keep in mind, the story/manga is not finished. For those that are interested, there is also a Japanese Drama made for it. http://wiki.d-addicts.com/LIAR_GAME  | ||
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					Yeah one go. Took a break for Wimbledon. 100ish now.  | ||
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					just woke up BACK TO READING  | ||
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					There are 8 people in Akiyama's group, with 2 infected. Akiyama knows Akagi is infected, hence there's pretty much a group with 7 people where 1 is infected. Before the first period ended, have two people come into contact. If, in the break, there are only 2 people infected, then those two people that came into contact are confirmed normals. If there are 3 infected at the break, then one of those people must be infected. Repeat for next period. GG BAM good chance of winning.  | ||
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					:O But yes, both Doubt and Liar Game are very fun reads.  | ||
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					Doubt was very beautiful but I had a problem telling the characters apart. TLG was phenomenal, maybe it helped that they tended to give people nick names in the large scenes but I could follow the action easily. I really expected the final game to be the lamest but the spin they placed on it made it really intense. I think my favorite game was the contraband game though. I kept hoping they would just dump that girl because as someone mentioned earlier she was kind of "plain" but she definitely grows as time goes on and you are glad that they didn't  | ||
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					On July 09 2010 07:19 Zona wrote: Wow. I don't read much manga but Liar game was tremendously enjoyable. Any other manga along the same lines? Close to Liar Game's vicinity/level? Nope. Liar Game does have a bunch of "Bonus Chapters/Short Stories" that are stand alone, either about Akiyama Shinichi's past, or others that are totally non related to the main story. One Manga does not have these extra content, so you guys might want to search around. I read mine from Chinese sites.  | ||
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					Anyways, I was thinking that we should recreate a game from the manga? :D  | ||
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					On July 10 2010 07:46 Abenson wrote: Actually, I read the whole Liar game in 1 go =.=" Anyways, I was thinking that we should recreate a game from the manga? :D Yeah, I'm mostly interested in doing the minority game. Would anybody be interested in that? It actually should be a fairly quick game, of course it'd only be fun if we got a lot of people in on it.  | ||
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					It'll be easy to win lol  | ||
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							rastaban
							
							
						 
						
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					oh wait that was my vote    I would be up for it, I forgot how cool that game was.  | ||
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					On July 10 2010 12:01 youngminii wrote: But we all know the strategies etc. It'll be easy to win lol The same strategies wouldn't really work as effectively if we ALL know them ![]()  | ||
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					America!  | ||
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							Fishball
							
							
						 
						
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					Chapter 139 can be found here in English. The newest chapter is 140, but the English translation isn't released yet.  | ||
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					On December 05 2011 14:46 Fishball wrote: So after a year of hiatus, Liar Game is back (since November). Chapter 139 can be found here in English. The newest chapter is 140, but the English translation isn't released yet. WWOOOOOOO  | ||
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					Onemanga is down, anyone know where I can read doubt? //Is this all the chapters (link) Also, the wiki says there is a sequel called Judge  | ||
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					well, I know what Im doing all night...  | ||
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					On December 05 2011 15:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Now that's an epic bump Onemanga is down, anyone know where I can read doubt? //Is this all the chapters (link) Also, the wiki says there is a sequel called Judge I was wondering why the manga sucked so much... Correct wiki, but I confused it with Doubt!! manga when I found a page :/ Is this both correct and the whole manga?  | ||
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					On December 05 2011 22:40 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I was wondering why the manga sucked so much... Correct wiki, but I confused it with Doubt!! manga when I found a page :/ Is this both correct and the whole manga? I saw your original link last night. I couldn't help but laugh, but decided not to say anything. Yes, the new link is the correct Doubt manga. The story itself sucks though. Just read Liar Game.  | ||
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					On December 06 2011 07:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Link? http://www.mangareader.net/164/liar-game.html One of my favorite manga by far.  | ||
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					We definitely need to find a way to bring the smuggling from round 3 into mafia. Minority rules could be interesting, but it seems so solveable. I wonder how well the revival game would work in practice.  | ||
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					On December 12 2011 04:38 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Am I missing something? Why wouldn't you put it into a bank, collect interest and everyone wins? oO? (I'm only at chapter 1, so don't spoil anything please oO) probably because its suppose to show how people in the world are greedy  | ||
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					On December 12 2011 04:54 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Coulda at least added as a rule "You cannot put this in the bank, or you will instantly lose the game". Would be a simple add on that keeps continuity. If I figured this out after chapter one, surely someone would have suggested it to him? suggest to who, the girl, or her teacher she played in the first round?  | ||
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					On December 12 2011 05:37 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I was thinking the rules from Liar Game should also include that if you simply put the money in the bank the game instantly ends and you lose. Or something to keep someone from simply keeping it in the bank growing interest during that period of time. Although sense I posted I'm coming to realize there are ways to lose if you do this too... Well, since you're only holding the money for a brief period of time, you probably wouldn't make a lot of interest-- over the course of the 30 days during which the game is played, bank fees are likely to outweigh interest-- especially because of the low interest rates present due to Japan's liquidity trap throughout the 90s and early 00s. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decade_%28Japan%29). Also, unless the game was during a 30 day or 28 day month, and started on the last day of the previous month, you probably won't make any interest at all, since banks (generally) only pay interest at the end of the month on money that has been stored there since the 1st day of the month.  | ||
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					While amazing, I never really saw that much of "Mafia" element in this manga exactly. And Then There Were None was in a way as much as Mafia-ish as Doubt.  | ||
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					On December 13 2011 08:53 Hesmyrr wrote: Suddenly, a random thought. While amazing, I never really saw that much of "Mafia" element in this manga exactly. And Then There Were None was in a way as much as Mafia-ish as Doubt. If we're taking the discussion away from manga, watch Identity (2003). I think there are a few horror movies similar to mafia already, but yeah.  | ||
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					I gotta say, I was actually pretty disappointed by Doubt.   At first, I thought it was gonna do something really interesting, and contextualize their friendship and life experiences through a game that inherently discourages trust, thus making each other question what their whole relationship is based on. (hey, some people probably take the game really seriously) Then they had to go and actually kill somebody, and the thing just Battle Royal'd its way to the inevitably twisty conclusion. Also, as far as the identity of the killer goes...+ Show Spoiler + I just asked myself at the beginning, "who makes the least sense as the wolf, aside from the protagonist?" and got it right. xD I was even all, "they're totally gonna pull a Saw at some point", though I didn't know how. Still don't know how it actually happened, aside from weeeooweeeooweeeoohypnotism. Plus, hypnotism is a damn lazy plot device. How else you gonna make the innocent girl do a complete 180? Gob forbid you actually give a character proper motivation and analyze-able behavior. rabble rabble rabble However, after just a chapter, I'm definitely liking Liar Game a lot more.   It seems to be a closer to what I thought Doubt would be. | ||
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					EDIT: It says "Update Status: [not available]" Anyways, about movies that are "seemingly" like Mafia: Meh. It's basically a "whodunit?", but I don't think they are that good. Why? Because it's always the same deal: 
 There is less suspense in those type of movies than the Teletubies, since you always know the end. If they were more unpredictable, like having NO protagonist, and having VARIOUS killers that are not stereotypes then it would be better. For instance, why can't the token black guy be the killer? And he's found out in the middle of the movie because of inconsistent behaviour or something? Why can't the killer be someone in plain sight (that's scummy as fuck and all), but he continues to survive because people think he's too scummy to be real? Why aren't they more unpredictable like a real game of mafia? Unless a movie/comic/manga/series does that, I wouldn't consider it "Mafia-esque" per se, and just a "whodunit?" ripoff with all the stereotypes that come from it /rant  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 00:48 gonzaw wrote: I can't find any links to the actual Doubt manga, that link from the OP doesn't have it. EDIT: It says "Update Status: [not available]" Anyways, about movies that are "seemingly" like Mafia: Meh. It's basically a "whodunit?", but I don't think they are that good. Why? Because it's always the same deal: 
 There is less suspense in those type of movies than the Teletubies, since you always know the end. If they were more unpredictable, like having NO protagonist, and having VARIOUS killers that are not stereotypes then it would be better. For instance, why can't the token black guy be the killer? And he's found out in the middle of the movie because of inconsistent behaviour or something? Why can't the killer be someone in plain sight (that's scummy as fuck and all), but he continues to survive because people think he's too scummy to be real? Why aren't they more unpredictable like a real game of mafia? Unless a movie/comic/manga/series does that, I wouldn't consider it "Mafia-esque" per se, and just a "whodunit?" ripoff with all the stereotypes that come from it /rant There's a DS game (visual novel really) called 999: Nine hours, nine persons, nine doors which is basically a game of mafia (though there is more going on than that). It is probably the closest thing I've encountered to an actual mafia game where you really have to pay attention and think. It doesn't follow the stereotypes you listed above. I highly recommend it, it's by the same team that did Ever17.  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 01:24 Foolishness wrote: There's a DS game (visual novel really) called 999: Nine hours, nine persons, nine doors which is basically a game of mafia (though there is more going on than that). It is probably the closest thing I've encountered to an actual mafia game where you really have to pay attention and think. It doesn't follow the stereotypes you listed above. I highly recommend it, it's by the same team that did Ever17. I don't have DS, but I'll check some youtube videos or playthroughs of it thanks  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 01:59 gonzaw wrote: I don't have DS, but I'll check some youtube videos or playthroughs of it thanks Emulators are your friend. Its worth playing blind.  | ||
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					Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I can't find any chapters or anything in that link from the OP  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 03:36 gonzaw wrote: So, where can I read Doubt? Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I can't find any chapters or anything in that link from the OP http://www.mangareader.net/1450-46376-1/doubt/chapter-1.html  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 05:48 Incognito wrote: Hype for the Liar Game Mini Mafia that will be posted in the next day or two! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!  | ||
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					It has "Escape the Room" puzzles...check Has some awesome premise...check Has lots to read and waste time...check It's suspenseful as shit...check Yeah I don't think I'll leave home in a while >_> That game is awesome.  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 13:54 gonzaw wrote: Well, to be honest I'm more busy with that 999 thing. It has "Escape the Room" puzzles...check Has some awesome premise...check Has lots to read and waste time...check It's suspenseful as shit...check Yeah I don't think I'll leave home in a while >_> That game is awesome. Just wait until you're tested by the final puzzle after your sixth play-through. :p  | ||
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					On April 25 2012 15:02 Node wrote: Wooo bump! Was browsing old games for ideas and found this. I gotta say, I was actually pretty disappointed by Doubt.   At first, I thought it was gonna do something really interesting, and contextualize their friendship and life experiences through a game that inherently discourages trust, thus making each other question what their whole relationship is based on. (hey, some people probably take the game really seriously) Then they had to go and actually kill somebody, and the thing just Battle Royal'd its way to the inevitably twisty conclusion. Also, as far as the identity of the killer goes...+ Show Spoiler + I just asked myself at the beginning, "who makes the least sense as the wolf, aside from the protagonist?" and got it right. xD I was even all, "they're totally gonna pull a Saw at some point", though I didn't know how. Still don't know how it actually happened, aside from weeeooweeeooweeeoohypnotism. Plus, hypnotism is a damn lazy plot device. How else you gonna make the innocent girl do a complete 180? Gob forbid you actually give a character proper motivation and analyze-able behavior. rabble rabble rabble However, after just a chapter, I'm definitely liking Liar Game a lot more.   It seems to be a closer to what I thought Doubt would be.liar game is literally the only manga i ever enjoyed. I absolutely love that manga.  | ||
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					I guess it gets worse than that then? ![]()  | ||
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					The moment I saw him I knew he was scum, I knew it. Lynch him...  | ||
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							gonzaw
							
							
						 
						
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					But how are you guys going to make it into a mafia game? Make a "Minority Lynch" or something? lol  | ||
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					You could make votes anonymous, so you PM them to host or something, and you can say you're voting for someone but PM someone else etc, in order to keep minority lynch  | ||
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							gonzaw
							
							
						 
						
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					In Mafia you have factions, and if you "lose" individually doesn't matter at all if your faction wins.. ...unless we are all 3rd party and have to win on our own >_> <_< >_> Well, Incognito better put some great scenarios and mechanics and shit in there then ![]() EDIT: But OMG is the main protagonist stupid/gullible/susceptible. + Show Spoiler [About that "Bowling" chapter] + 
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					On April 27 2012 13:19 gonzaw wrote: But in the Liar Game you are supposedely on your own and you need to trick people so you can win alone. In Mafia you have factions, and if you "lose" individually doesn't matter at all if your faction wins.. ...unless we are all 3rd party and have to win on our own >_> <_< >_> Well, Incognito better put some great scenarios and mechanics and shit in there then ![]() that would be sick, only 3rd parties  | ||
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							gonzaw
							
							
						 
						
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					I'll try and fulfill your win condition and you try to fulfill mine, and we help each other! Sounds good? ![]() (oh and this isn't a scam or anything like it, I swear >_> ) EDIT: I heard there is a TV series and some film about the Liar Game. Did anybody watch them? Are they good?  | ||
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					and of course we'll ally...hehheeheh.  | ||
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							gonzaw
							
							
						 
						
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					If you get killed at night, scum most likely double-stacked you, it won't have anything to do with me >_> Come on! You have like 99% chance to win! It's a foolproof plan. I didn't think this "game" would be this easy, pffff. If you follow my plan we will win this in no-time, you have my word. EDIT: I wonder if one can use some of those games in parties and shit. The contraband one seems pretty cool. Maybe if monopoly money is used instead one could make a party out of it or something.  | ||
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					.......is the Liar Game....Yuhioh? Blond guy-Yugi Japanese chick-Tea (or one of the dumwitted "friends") Yokozo(sp? or the weird asian dude)-Kaiba The characters are almost the same >_> Also, remember how in Yugioh these kind of scenario happen?: Opponent- You will lose! I will use [Bullshit Card #1] and doom you! Yugi- You've fallen into my trap! I was waiting for you to use that the whole game since the start. Now I'll use [Bullshit Trap Card #1] to win Opponent- Hahahaha! I knew you would do that. That's why 100000 turns ago I created a plan to counteract that by using [Bullshit Magic Card #23]. Now I'll win because [Bullshit reason]. You lost! Haha Yugi- *turns his head to the ground so you can't see his eyes in a defeated manner, but then slighly smiles* Opponent- OH NO, Y U SMILE!? Yugi- Remember 1000 hours ago when I did [Stupid Bullshit Thing]? I did that anticipating this very thing you were going to do. Now I win because [Stupid Bullshit reason created just for the show] Opponent- NOOOOO Like, it's basically the same thing in the Liar Games too >_> Not that I have problems with it, the setups and challenges are more interesting, and everybody loves a good complex plan that mindfucks everybody....but lol it's the same as yugioh ![]() EDIT: If I had a penny for everytime "foolproof plan" was uttered, then I'd have enough money to buy the whole LGT EDIT: Oh yeah, add "fatal mistake" to that as well.  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 13:32 slOosh wrote: Considering how good it is, you'd be hard pressed not to finish it in 1. Done. Got linked yesterday evening, started reading at night at about 3 AM my time, couldn't stop, fell asleep at 11 AM since I was getting too tired, woke up at 6 PM, read the last few chapters in one hour or so. Total time w/ sleep ~18h, total time spent reading 10-12h-ish. Totally worth it. :D  | ||
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					On April 27 2012 13:32 gonzaw wrote: EDIT: I heard there is a TV series and some film about the Liar Game. Did anybody watch them? Are they good? Yes the series and movies are really good. I've seen them all (even watched a few games a second time). Personally I've only read bits and pieces of the manga so I cannot give a very accurate impressions but from what Ver says the manga is better. It's still worth it to watch though.  | ||
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					But it's all in japanese though >_> (maybe there are subs somewhere or something) Anyways, just read the whole manga......so when will they release new chapters? Cause now I really want to continue the story >_>  | ||
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					+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler, but from like the 2nd chapter…] + WWTTFFFFFF!!!?? The "game" just started and a handicapped little girl is crucified and left for dead!!? ...wat Also there are a lot of girls that look the same and some dudes I don't know the name of >_> But holy hell..... Wait Hey! Isn't that cheating? In that case scum would have killed on Night 0. But the game starts in Day 1 with the lynch!!! That guy broke the rules, he should go to the ban list  | ||
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					On April 29 2012 14:54 gonzaw wrote: Oh right... But it's all in japanese though >_> (maybe there are subs somewhere or something) Anyways, just read the whole manga......so when will they release new chapters? Cause now I really want to continue the story >_> The manga is on a break right now I think. The author said that he would take 2-3 weeks or so to do some research and stuff... though its been about a month yet no updates =(  | ||
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					I love how the "guys with masks" or whatever are such dorks. Like, everytime someone does anything they are all "Oh no! How did he figure that out! Impossible!" then the other tells him "No you stupid, it's simple" then the other one says "Oh right" and it's repeated every time a "plan" is mentioned.  | ||
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					Hopefully the hiatus doesnt take a year again ._.  | ||
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					![]() My idea is that the teacher from chapter 1 is the mastermind of all this game and it's revealed in the last second. Then the fatty that won the 4th round wins the game and kills the mastermind (he throws him off a cliff), and then Akishyama and Yokora play the 24-bullet russian roulette, but with real bullets. Yeah then Fukunaha hooks up with that Hitoshiro old dude and live forever happy in a Tibettian monastery. The end.  | ||
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					+ Show Spoiler [Spoilers duh!] + So, the little girl was behind everything... ...so did she revive or something? I mean, she had a FUCKING STAKE GOING THROUGH HER HEART!! Like wtf? Also, thank god it wasn't a guy that had those hypnotic powers...since we know what a guy would do with those >_> Also, Doubt has a sequel apparently, I thought you guys would have known about it by now >_> It's called Judge, here it is: http://www.mangareader.net/1449-46375-1/judge/chapter-1.html  | ||
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					On April 30 2012 06:44 gonzaw wrote: Okay, finished Doubt + Show Spoiler [Spoilers duh!] + So, the little girl was behind everything... ...so did she revive or something? I mean, she had a FUCKING STAKE GOING THROUGH HER HEART!! Like wtf? Also, thank god it wasn't a guy that had those hypnotic powers...since we know what a guy would do with those >_> + Show Spoiler + Something something something hypnotism. It's a really convenient plot device.  | ||
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					On April 30 2012 15:44 Node wrote: + Show Spoiler + Something something something hypnotism. It's a really convenient plot device. + Show Spoiler + They should have ended saying that in the end, Hajime was the one that was behind it all, and he threatened Rei into using hypnotism to control those guys to kill everybody. Then it's revealed that the one behind everything was Eiji, and he had used a dummy to "fake" his death, and he controlled Hajime with nanobots planted in his brain, so he used Hajime as a proxy to tell Rei to use hypnotism to control that chick into killing everybody However, then it's revealed that Haruka was behind it all too. She seduced Eiji into making that whole plan above, and if he succeded she'd be his whore. She faked her death with a dummy too. However, then it's revealed that Mishiku (sp?) was behind that as well. She is good friends with Haruka so she told her to convince Eiji to do that, and in that case Mishiku would pay her college with his father's money However, then it's revealed that Yuu was behind it. He told Mishiku to do the above so he could teach his friends the true value of trust. So Yuu told Mishiku to convince Haruka to seduce Eiji into planting nanobots into Hajime's brain to threaten Rei into using hypnotism to control Mishiku into killing (or attempting to) everybody. So in the end everybody was alive and all deaths were fake!! Except that bald guy, fuck him.  | ||
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					There's something that unsettled me about that game though: + Show Spoiler [Spoiler dude!] + No! The blind guy died! I liked that guy.. ...but wait. He was killed in door #3. That means that at least 3 players with bracelets whose digit root was 3 had to open that door. Let's assume those are Snake+2 others. So all 3 open the door, they throw Snake inside, and let him explode. Apparently everybody acknowledges this too after it happens... ...are those people fucking stupid or what? They don't even try to find out which players could have killed him. First of all, there can be at most 5 players going through a door. Assuming those five players are (4), (5), (6), (7) and (8), their total sum is 30. If Snake is in one group, at most it can be (2), (5), (6), (7) and (8) which is 28. Now, the only 2-digit numbers below 30 whose digital root is 3 are: -21 -12 
 Now let's make a list of all of them: (1)+(3)+(7)+(8) (1)+(4)+(6)+(8) (1)+(5)+(6)+(7) (3)+(4)+(5)+(7) (4)+(7)+(8) (5)+(6)+(8) (1)+(3)+(6) (1)+(4)+(5) (3)+(7) (4)+(6) Now, assuming his little sister didn't kill him, we are left with these: (1)+(3)+(7)+(8) (1)+(5)+(6)+(7) (5)+(6)+(8) (1)+(3)+(6) (3)+(7) If 2 people killed him: Santa and Seven killed him If 3 people killed him: June is guaranteed to have killed him If 4 people killed him: This seems ridiculous but Seven is guaranteed to have killed him So either June is a killer, Seven is a killer, or Santa and Seven are the killers. Since it's likely only 2 did it, then Santa and Seven are the killers. These people come up with the combinations to enter each door in like 3 seconds (and it takes me like 2 minutes to figure it out >_> ), yet they can't even come up with these combinations ABOUT THE GUYS THAT MADE A FUCKING GUY EXPLODE!!!! Anyways, I hope they all die for being stupid, let's see how this ends. Oh wait, since we know our protagonist is a good guy, then no matter what Santa is GUARANTEED TO HAVE KILLED HIM. If that June girl is good to, then Seven+Santa killed him too, then add Ace+Lotus or not. So our "protagonist" could have already find a confirmed scum, yet he's too stupid to realize. (oh yeah if in the end the guy died alone because the door was ajar or opened automatically I will fucking rage at them for making me waste all this time >_> )  | ||
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					lol everybody died From before Anyways, I hope they all die for being stupid, let's see how this ends. Serves them right lol, should have listened to me ![]() EDIT: + Show Spoiler [Spoilers, dun dun dun] + Okay, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Santa/Ace were actually faking their deaths and were the murderers. I mean, Junpei checked Clover's pulse and she was dead, but he didn't check the other 2 pulses. Considering how Santa was one of the guys that opened Snake's door most likely, then I'll guess he's the murderer faking his death. If no....then why the fuck did they MAKE ME ANALYZE THE WHOLE DOOR THING!!! Arghh it better be worth it in another ending. EDIT2: + Show Spoiler [FUCK YOU!!!] + Really! Fuck you game! You don't even tell me who's the murderer or anything, everybody just dies and that's it. Did I play so badly? *sigh* Another ending I suppose  | ||
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					Hey johnny! Kudos! We predicted what had happened accurately! (at least the part revealed in this ending). Also, I haven't seen the "true" ending, but here's my prediction: + Show Spoiler [999 SPOILERS] + Zero is Santa. Santa's sister died in the Nonary game from 9 years ago. Santa was filled with rage and decided to track down who did it. He contacted Seven and Seven told him about it, and told him Cradle Pharmaceuticals were behind that Nonary Game. So Santa researched and found out Ace was the CEO of said company. Santa planned his revenge then. He decided to make a new Nonary game to punish Ace for killing his sister. So he took Ace, the people he knew (Seven), and people related to that Nonary game: -Lotus since her daughters were part of it, maybe this story will be expanded upon later -Snake since he played that Nonary game -Clover for being Snake's sister -9th man because as Ace said, 9th man and Ace were connected because of that Nonary game (and Santa found out about it). ....also Junpei/June were Santa's classmates on middle school. Remember that at one point June said "Maybe this whole thing has something to do with a classmates of ours". Santa knew about them, and maybe some other thing between them happened (that obviously Junpei/June forgot) which made Santa put them in the game. Then he started acting "dumb" and all "cool" and shit in the game, but he fully knew everything. ..I still don't know what the fuck that "telepathy" thing they mention every 10 minutes has to do with anything. Also, Snake's arm was really fake? What the fuck? I thought it seemed pretty real when he showed his bracelet and shit EDIT: + Show Spoiler [999 spoilers again] + Well, now that I think about it Seven could be Zero too, he had motivation too (maybe he was traumatized about the CP making the Nonary game and wanted to stop them I prefer the Santa one better though  | ||
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					+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler again] + Wtf? Time travelling telepathy timeline branch fusion? *mind explodes* Damn, why didn't they let me at least have the "Santa is Zero" thing right ![]() Also, this feels eerily similar to Doubt.  | ||
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					http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Escape:_Virtue's_Last_Reward Apparently 999 has a sequel. If it's 10% as awesome as 999 then it will be totally worth it. How come all the things in this thread have sequels yet none of you guys ever hear about them >_> EDIT: Well fuck apparently it's for the 3DS not the common DS. Time to get yet another emulator *sigh*  | ||
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