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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
June 15 2012 07:40 GMT
#801
I voted Something else meaning:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Hayate the Combat Butler
Touhou (Loll)
Guren Lagan
Gundam
Samurai X

Had some of my childhood memories in thar!

also, OVER 9000!!!!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 07:46:53
June 15 2012 07:46 GMT
#802
On June 15 2012 16:19 gonzaw wrote:
Dragon Ball Z all the way.


...I pity the guy who gets the Krillin role though

I will neither confirm nor deny that Krillin does not have the absence of the ability possibly known as Destructo Disk
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 15 2012 07:47 GMT
#803
On June 15 2012 16:40 Bluelightz wrote:
I voted Something else meaning:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Hayate the Combat Butler
Touhou (Loll)
Guren Lagan
Gundam
Samurai X

Had some of my childhood memories in thar!

also, OVER 9000!!!!

Never been a fan of most of those, though Gundam Wing was good. That was the only Gundam I enjoyed though.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
June 15 2012 07:48 GMT
#804
On June 15 2012 16:47 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:40 Bluelightz wrote:
I voted Something else meaning:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Hayate the Combat Butler
Touhou (Loll)
Guren Lagan
Gundam
Samurai X

Had some of my childhood memories in thar!

also, OVER 9000!!!!

Never been a fan of most of those, though Gundam Wing was good. That was the only Gundam I enjoyed though.


Watching gundam AGE right now :3

DO A GUNDAM MAFIA PLZ
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 15 2012 07:48 GMT
#805
On June 15 2012 16:33 HiroPro wrote:
Samurai Champloo, DBZ, or Dune.... So hard to choose. Eh, I think Dune has the best kind of setting for mafia.

But Krillin is definitely the best role. Destructo disk and everyone dies


But he dies 10 times before using it >_>
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 15 2012 08:08 GMT
#806
Dune is awesome though I bet it's hard to make 4 faction game (three main houses+Fremen as town?) I was thinking about such mafia but it wouldn't mirror Dune well.
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 08:11:16
June 15 2012 08:08 GMT
#807
On June 15 2012 16:48 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:33 HiroPro wrote:
Samurai Champloo, DBZ, or Dune.... So hard to choose. Eh, I think Dune has the best kind of setting for mafia.

But Krillin is definitely the best role. Destructo disk and everyone dies


But he dies 10 times before using it >_>


And he comes back every time


It could be like Atreides as town and the other 2 houses as seperate mafia teams. And then represent the other major groups with a couple of third party roles.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
June 15 2012 08:49 GMT
#808
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.

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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
June 15 2012 08:52 GMT
#809
dbz ftw

and I would love playing in newbie games
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 15 2012 10:44 GMT
#810
On June 15 2012 17:49 Ver wrote:
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.




I would be in to this. Especially if say, half the player slots were reserved for newbies, and the other half were first come first serve.

I think we would also want to enforce strict behavior guidelines. Which means insults etc are kept to a minimum.

On the flip side, in the mini games as we have them right now newbie players need to lead the town on their own. They can't just sit back and let the experienced players carry the load.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 15 2012 10:46 GMT
#811
Dune: You just have Atreides + Freemen as town, vs the Harkonnens.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 15 2012 12:01 GMT
#812
On June 15 2012 19:44 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 17:49 Ver wrote:
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.




I would be in to this. Especially if say, half the player slots were reserved for newbies, and the other half were first come first serve.

I think we would also want to enforce strict behavior guidelines. Which means insults etc are kept to a minimum.

On the flip side, in the mini games as we have them right now newbie players need to lead the town on their own. They can't just sit back and let the experienced players carry the load.


This should be the #1 thing to think about when considering this idea.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 15 2012 12:56 GMT
#813
smurfs!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 15 2012 13:00 GMT
#814
Can mine be Scumfield?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
June 15 2012 13:05 GMT
#815
Scummellosity?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 15 2012 13:07 GMT
#816
On June 15 2012 22:05 Dirkzor wrote:
Scummellosity?


Not entirely convinced this would totally hide my identity. Somehow the names seem a bit similar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 15 2012 14:14 GMT
#817
We're gonna need some more smurfs then.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 15 2012 19:11 GMT
#818
Has anyone ever played mafia for money?
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
June 16 2012 06:06 GMT
#819
I'm backed by sponsor when playing on TL. They want to fly my ou to MLG's and such to play IRL by I can fit it in my schedule...

I thought most here had deals?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 06:22:06
June 16 2012 06:20 GMT
#820
On June 15 2012 17:49 Ver wrote:
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.


Not a fair comparison in my opinion. The early games on TL were generally much bigger with different mechanics (elections, clues, abilities like votechecks being the biggest ones). Also, there was no modkill/ban mechanic. This allowed games to be much more town favored and still be relatively even because a ton of the players were just going to go MIA anyways. Also, you generally had a specific group of players doing most if not all of the heavy lifting for both teams. These players tended to be more experienced than the others or willing to work much harder to improve quickly.

Maybe we should raise the maximum number of games allowed to play in those games, but I don't think removing the restrictions entirely is the right move.
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