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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 05 2012 20:42 GMT
#661
Hey, I don't know if here is a good place to post this, but what is the best way as town to tell people that you don't know.#
For instance, last game, after a few nights of getting the wrong leads, I was really struggling to get good scum reads, so when asked who I thought was scum, should I have just gone for the best option, or just told them that I didn't know at the time. Or am I just super bad for not knowing?
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 09 2012 23:37 GMT
#662
You're certainly not super bad for not knowing. It takes a lot of experience to untangle false-tells from scum-tells, town motive from mafia motive, scum actions from bad actions, etc.

It can be especially difficult when your early reads turn out to be wrong, and all the connections you had hoped to draw no longer apply.

When someone asks you who you think is scum, and you're feeling fuddled and muddled, I would say it's important to NOT just go with the best option. Explain your confusion, explain what happened to your early reads, and weigh in on who you think is an acceptable lynch. As a town aligned player you do NOT want to just go with the crowd, as 1. that does nothing to separate you from scum, who are often also just blending in, and 2. it does nothing to further the town lynch discussion(it simply bandwagons someone who you obviously don't feel all that strongly is scum).

Eventually you get experienced enough that you can start separating out the players who are obviously town. That leaves you with a smaller pool of players to scum hunt through. You then winnow those down to players who you have an active scum vibe on, and those who are simply null. You then concentrate on and pressure those whom you have an active scum vibe on, and pay attention to move more and more players into the likely town category.

Keep a spread sheet with roles, vibes, activity levels, notes and maybe vote lists as well, though I think in general early vote lists don't tell much.

Hopefully that answers your question Got any more?
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 16 2012 16:06 GMT
#663
[image loading]

MrWiggles! I thought you were better then this

(taken from Gheed's bronze blog)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
April 16 2012 16:51 GMT
#664
On April 17 2012 01:06 Dirkzor wrote:
[image loading]

MrWiggles! I thought you were better then this

(taken from Gheed's bronze blog)

Too bad my SC2 name's Jester :p
you gotta dance
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#665
Dammit =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 17 2012 18:35 GMT
#666
A gift. Guess who its for
[image loading]
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
April 18 2012 04:28 GMT
#667
Hopefully to someone who is colorblind.
LiangHao
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#668
On April 18 2012 03:35 Mattchew wrote:
A gift. Guess who its for
[image loading]


For me?! I....I don't know what to say!
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#669
Your welcome
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#670
ok, lets seriously use this thread for misc talking, could be useful!

ok, whats best way to find whos best to heal. it seems to me the towniest player isnt always the best person to heal because scum would think you'd heal them, etc.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 18 2012 22:48 GMT
#671
When in doubt, heal me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 18 2012 22:53 GMT
#672
games in which kita is town and doesnt die are close to 100% win rate if I recall correctly
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 18 2012 22:56 GMT
#673
Over 100% if I recall correctly.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 20 2012 23:13 GMT
#674
ssb64 game needs moar people go to irc at #tlmafia to join
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 23:35:09
April 21 2012 04:22 GMT
#675
On April 19 2012 07:47 johnnywup wrote:
ok, lets seriously use this thread for misc talking, could be useful!

ok, whats best way to find whos best to heal. it seems to me the towniest player isnt always the best person to heal because scum would think you'd heal them, etc.


In my personal opinion, you should almost always heal the most townie player, and sometimes, have a Top 3 townie list and pick between them, as you might not be sure who scum think is most townie/is best shot.

The fact of the matter is, that if the scum kill the best players, you have failed your job as medic. While Scum often WIFOM themselves out of shooting the best players simply because of medics, often times good players get under scrutiny and aren't considered super townie for a while. Ex: in TL Mafia L, BC and Protact(incognito) had a lengthy battle in-thread calling each other scum. Thus no one was really sure who was townie, for a bit. BC was mayor, so he couldn't be shot at night due to bodyguards, however protact was a potential mafia shot. They could've seen him and thought "well, he's a super amazing town analyst, but because he doesn't have very good town cred yet, maybe we can shoot him tonight!". And if you're a medic not healing protact, you just failed to heal your DT. GG

that's my 2c, have never played medic.

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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 29 2012 01:25 GMT
#676
The amount of inactives lately is ridiculous. IMO Make a requirement of 1 newbie game to play in another game, and the mod of the newbie game has to give a "pass" to other games that says they're active enough to play in non-newbie games.

What do you guys think?
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 29 2012 01:28 GMT
#677
On April 29 2012 10:25 johnnywup wrote:
The amount of inactives lately is ridiculous. IMO Make a requirement of 1 newbie game to play in another game, and the mod of the newbie game has to give a "pass" to other games that says they're active enough to play in non-newbie games.

What do you guys think?

Hard to quantify something like that though. Even the most active players have random spurts of inactivity during games because life happens.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 29 2012 01:30 GMT
#678
Yeah I know. At the mods discretion. And I don't mean lurking, I mean inactive. Like, post bare minimum and sometimes not even that. I don't want those people in games.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 29 2012 01:31 GMT
#679
What do you think of the idea overall though?
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 29 2012 01:31 GMT
#680
On April 29 2012 10:30 johnnywup wrote:
Yeah I know. At the mods discretion. And I don't mean lurking, I mean inactive. Like, post bare minimum and sometimes not even that. I don't want those people in games.

That's why there is the banlist and the warning list
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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