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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:03 Pandain wrote: And it was this argument that changed my mind and made me unvote Chaoser and vote Subversion. From reading this, I'll change my vote to Subversion even though that means I'll 100% die. Darth, if you wanna help me, you could switch it over too and I think he'll be first. ##unvote ##vote Subversion | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
gg. citi.zen, you win this round. One final note: You doubt that you're joined at the hip with Subversion? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:41 tree.hugger wrote: Well, I'll pick this up again on Friday, presuming I'm not dead, so I can vote again for Subversion after whoever the hell it is we're lynching today flips green. gg. citi.zen, you win this round. One final note: You doubt that you're joined at the hip with Subversion? I don't doubt that you've been spreading misinformation via PMs, that's what I know. You're also mistaken when you say people haven't defended DTA, I mounted one a few pages back although if it was a tossup between DTA and Subversion I'd save Subversion. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
##unvote ##vote amber[light] i doubt this will affect the outcome of the lynch for today but id rather go on what i believe than be part of killing an innocent for no clear reason that i can see. There's valid reasons for believing all three of you are scum but none are at all sufficient bc pretty much summed up my explanation of the vote on amber for today, but it's going on him tomorrow as well | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
The case against Chaoser as far as I can tell: 1. He put in a placeholder vote, saying he was gonna decide later. Then he never switched it because we had no real suspects Day 1 (other than DTA). 2. Pandain made a big argument post that even he doesn't believe anymore. In any case he switched to Subversion. 3. He was leaning BrownBear but then started being suspicious of Subversion, like at least half the town (DTA, I mentioned some others earlier, honestly I had DTA as my number one but my number 2 went from BrownBear to Subversion to thinking they are both townies, to now I dunno what to think about Subversion's blue claim) 4. He switched his vote to subversion because other people were also doing so, which is also now why people are voting for Chaoser. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] chaoser (DarthThienAn, youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divenek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM I think this is right | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:47 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Alright, so the town consensus seems to be DTA is mafia or mad hatter. If he's mad hatter, I'm more determined to kill him before he gives the mafia an extra two kp instead of an extra one. I wonder puts bombs on people as jokes. I'm not really sold on the mad hatter thing anyway; I don't thing this is an RP server where you have to act crazy if the word "mad" is in your role name. It'd make more sense to me to lay low like a vigi. He's been acting suspicious all game, its not like he laid low for two days and then did something scummy on day 3 to try to get lynched and activate bombs. If he is mad hatter, mafia know this. If they have any idea who he suspects, here's what happens: They know he is clueless: Mafia will vote to save him from lynch, let him put on another bomb, probably hit him tonight. They know he is really onto them to the point of both of his bombs being on mafia by night 2: Mafia will let him live, at which point we can't tell if DTA isn't a red getting away with it. Here's the question for people who believe he is mad hatter. If so, I bet he's stubborn and puts another bomb down tonight. What are the odds he has his bombs well placed? Damn low. Most likely scenario in that case is that he puts another bomb on someone tonight, mafia kills him and we wake up to a huge body count. Mad Hatter is a good role for town if they can survive long enough to get two really good suspects. They have to lay low enough till they can get a really strong bead before their bombs become more benefit than liability. If DTA is mad hatter like he says, he's already got one bomb placed and just wants to survive to place one more. Why aren't his supporters asking him about his suspects? Do you trust him to kill people that you also suspect? At this point, even if he's mad hatter, I'd rather his bombs go to waste because I doubt if he's blue he survives long enough for them to be used well. Who said I was Mad Hatter? People are only saying that because I claimed Mad Batter, and they think they're clever. To clarify about my vote on BB: It was mostly a joke. I was suspicious of him, because of the day 1 absence and then having a terrible plan trying to get people to roleclaim when there's no reason why they should. But I wouldn't seriously vote for him, without that little nudge from whoever suggested it. "If DTA is mad hatter like he says, he's already got one bomb placed and just wants to survive to place one more." I never said this.. On July 22 2010 08:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well that's interesting that you get the idea that those votes were jokes, because DTA has clarified that the vote on BB was for his bad vigi plan, and the vote on sub was for the mafia praise; they apparently weren't jokes at all. Yet, I can't blame you at all for thinking they are jokes when he plays like this. This is exactly how the teflon armor works: he does whatever he wants as a "joke" and if joking starts to make him look bad he clarifies with reasons that his actions weren't jokes at all. vigi plan? veteran plan? In any case, I've already explained in full my vote on BB. Mainly a joke, but I did have suspicions about BB. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:49 rastaban wrote: not voting: double lynch: I think this is right You should put who was first to 7 if there is a tie at the top. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
##Vote: Subversion | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: You should put who was first to 7 if there is a tie at the top. But not sure how it goes, Darth was first to 7 but then chaoser went to 9 and back down so while his was more recent he had more votes at the last point, subversion was the last to 7 I think | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:44 youngminii wrote: I don't doubt that you've been spreading misinformation via PMs, that's what I know. You're also mistaken when you say people haven't defended DTA, I mounted one a few pages back although if it was a tossup between DTA and Subversion I'd save Subversion. I dunno youngminii. IS there any doubt that you're joined at the hip with Subversion? Thanks for defending me and all, but my thoughts = you and Subversion are connected. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: @DTA So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company. BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
8] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divenek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM I think this is right | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:56 rastaban wrote: But not sure how it goes, Darth was first to 7 but then chaoser went to 9 and back down so while his was more recent he had more votes at the last point, subversion was the last to 7 I think Hmm if I was the moderator Chaoser would die but I don't know how BM handles that. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: @DTA So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company. If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^. What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing. lol at the reference. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On July 22 2010 10:00 DarthThienAn wrote: If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^. What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing. lol at the reference. so is mafia just a dancing game until we have absolute information or something | ||
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