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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:13 SiNiquity wrote: That's the only way the bombs go off But if got lynched right now as a MH, one of my bombs would go to waste =P. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
So, here's what I'm gonna do ##Unvote: DarthThienAn Vote: chaoser (I refuse to vote for Subversion because I think the bandwagon on him is ridiculous.) However, Darth, here's what I'd like to see: Stop playing like Chez. You aren't Chez. You're DTA :3 It's not the jokes, I don't mind the jokes (and I got most of them), but I'd like to see you actually throw some more serious pro-town stuff in there as well. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
So far I haven't seen a single convincing analysis; it just looks like people are voting for him because other people are voting for him. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:15 BrownBear wrote: It's possible, and especially after his posting, I think we should give him a chance. So, here's what I'm gonna do ##Unvote: DarthThienAn Vote: chaoser (I refuse to vote for Subversion because I think the bandwagon on him is ridiculous.) However, Darth, here's what I'd like to see: Stop playing like Chez. You aren't Chez. You're DTA :3 It's not the jokes, I don't mind the jokes (and I got most of them), but I'd like to see you actually throw some more serious pro-town stuff in there as well. If I live, deal. I'll throw some random content in there with the spam. wink wink. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:16 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Can anyone summarize why they think chaoser is mafia? So far I haven't seen a single convincing analysis; it just looks like people are voting for him because other people are voting for him. That's what I'm doing! | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:16 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Can anyone summarize why they think chaoser is mafia? So far I haven't seen a single convincing analysis; it just looks like people are voting for him because other people are voting for him. I'm too lazy to dig up the context of these posts, but here's what I've dug up thanks to Filter. Chaoser Day 1: On July 19 2010 00:50 chaoser wrote: ##vote abstain for now, didn't want to get modkilled followed by On July 19 2010 03:46 chaoser wrote: It's already been established that not lynching someone on the first day is a horrible decision, why are you still pushing for it? followed by the start of BrownBear's bandwagon. On July 19 2010 09:05 chaoser wrote: So basically you just said: "lawl, i messed up/made a mistake but oh well, not going to change." Anyone else find that suspicious? Recall that post of his stating that he's gonna abstain for now only to avoid a modkill? Well, he never really changed his vote afterwards. On July 20 2010 23:02 chaoser wrote: And to be truthful, I don;t really believe that BrownBear is townie just from the way he's posting. For the first day he pretty much posts nothing and bandwagons with no real reason. When people point him out of it (that he voted before reading) he goes oh well, it doesn't matter now when it CLEARLY did, the vote ended 6-5. Then, after a whole DAY of people pointing fingers at him he decides to come in and post about vets claiming and basically giving horrible advice. I'm inclined to say he's mafia who fucked up the first day and now he's trying to play dumb townie. Also, his whole ramble about claiming is pushing us off the topic of Subversion's suspicious vote as well as his little statement about how mafia isn't really making mistakes. I'm not 100% clear on my vote yet but I'm watching BrownBear for now. And I also think we should vote double lynch. It's going to be 52 hours till the next lynch give or take, you guys don't think we'll have more than enough information then? So then he goes onto kill BB, and also think we should waste our double lynch pretty early, but when he wakes up like 7 hours later, he decides "Oh shit, don't feel like voting for BB, gonna use it on Subversion instead" On July 21 2010 06:02 chaoser wrote: Also, I'm going to put in my vote for Subversion. So far I don't know how I feel about BrownBear. At first I wanted to vote him. He's been playing badly and didn't do anything day one. But then at the same time people jumped all over voting for him in the beginning until just recently when people switched to Subversion, or at least it feels like that. Subversion's little mafia mistake statement is just weird all in all and was part of that voting block (everyone's already mentioned this) so I'll put my vote on him for now but I'll have to see. Still a full day left. ##vote Subversion So if you do a little reading, you'll see that the reason why he switched over to Subversion was simply because other people were doing it. "At first, I wanted to vote BB cause everyone else was killing him. Now they're killing Subversion, so I might as well make myself comfortable and hop on as well" On July 22 2010 06:12 chaoser wrote: that's very scummy of you to say isn't it? Your suggestion gives mafia license to stack votes instead of having to worry about spreading it over different potential targets (4) right now. If later people ask, they can be like well, Pandain suggested it. And how am I more likely as mafia than DTA? Look at Pyrr's huge statement against him against the two weak points you bring against me (that I abstained after saying don't go with the no-lynch plan (which others did too) and then voted Subversion today.) If I get lynch and I flip non-red, people should carefully examine all the people who are hardcore gunning for me (Pandain, youngminii) Just an extra post that sheds a little light from Pandain's perspective. Anyways, while we're here, Chaoser to me seems like one of the big bandwagon voters in this thread, which is pretty much what Mafia likes to do. As well as a couple others, Chaoser has flopped from BB's wagon to Subversion's wagon with the excuse of "Everyone seems to be doing it, so I might as well too". First day, he gave the Abstain at first excuse in order to avoid a modkill, but never really changed his vote in the end. There are other signs as well, but the fact that he keeps pushing a couple dumb bandwagons in BB and Subversion reeks of bleh to me. Others fit this bill as well, but might as well push for Chaoser to get lynched since he's closer than other possible scum I have in mind. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
##vote chaoser i have like alot of pages to catch up on but based on my skimming this seems the best decision at the time, but ill post some real reasons, or just quote people cause im sure they've already said it ill try not to be like bb and actually follow this up with a post lol i just dont remember if the day ends at 9 or 10kst | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
followed by the start of BrownBear's bandwagon. On July 19 2010 09:05 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + So basically you just said: "lawl, i messed up/made a mistake but oh well, not going to change." Anyone else find that suspicious? so by your definition, anyone that FoS anyone is bandwagoning? Recall that post of his stating that he's gonna abstain for now only to avoid a modkill? Well, he never really changed his vote afterwards. On July 20 2010 23:02 chaoser wrote: And to be truthful, I don;t really believe that BrownBear is townie just from the way he's posting. For the first day he pretty much posts nothing and bandwagons with no real reason. When people point him out of it (that he voted before reading) he goes oh well, it doesn't matter now when it CLEARLY did, the vote ended 6-5. Then, after a whole DAY of people pointing fingers at him he decides to come in and post about vets claiming and basically giving horrible advice. I'm inclined to say he's mafia who fucked up the first day and now he's trying to play dumb townie. Also, his whole ramble about claiming is pushing us off the topic of Subversion's suspicious vote as well as his little statement about how mafia isn't really making mistakes. I'm not 100% clear on my vote yet but I'm watching BrownBear for now. And I also think we should vote double lynch. It's going to be 52 hours till the next lynch give or take, you guys don't think we'll have more than enough information then? I said I would be watching BB. I did, I didn't see anything that 100% convinced me he was mafia So then he goes onto kill BB, and also think we should waste our double lynch pretty early, but when he wakes up like 7 hours later, he decides "Oh shit, don't feel like voting for BB, gonna use it on Subversion instead" On July 21 2010 06:02 chaoser wrote: Also, I'm going to put in my vote for Subversion. So far I don't know how I feel about BrownBear. At first I wanted to vote him. He's been playing badly and didn't do anything day one. But then at the same time people jumped all over voting for him in the beginning until just recently when people switched to Subversion, or at least it feels like that. Subversion's little mafia mistake statement is just weird all in all and was part of that voting block (everyone's already mentioned this) so I'll put my vote on him for now but I'll have to see. Still a full day left. ##vote Subversion I didn't say "oh shit, gonna change votes for no reason lawl." 1) I hadn't voted on BB yet, was jsut talking about how people should keep a close eye on him and 2) I outlined my reasons in that post So if you do a little reading, you'll see that the reason why he switched over to Subversion was simply because other people were doing it. "At first, I wanted to vote BB cause everyone else was killing him. Now they're killing Subversion, so I might as well make myself comfortable and hop on as well" That's not it at all, I said I voted for him because 1) BB's bandwagon from people voting for him seemed weird and so he was less suspicious and 2) Subversion's mafia hasn't made a mistake comment was fishy, "At first, I wanted to vote BB cause everyone else was killing him. Now they're killing Subversion, so I might as well make myself comfortable and hop on as well" ^--not that at all | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: So chaoser is suspicious because he changed his vote from BB to Subversion. Who was the first person to do that? DTA. At least Chaoser gives reasons so we have something to work with. Haven't you understood that DTA jokes alot when he changes? I mean, they were OBVIOUS jokes too. There are better arguments against DTA, stop using that one. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
everyone, please take note of all the people voting me last minute, thanks. ##unvote ##vote DarthThienAn | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:40 chaoser wrote: That's not it at all, I said I voted for him because 1) BB's bandwagon from people voting for him seemed weird and so he was less suspicious and 2) Subversion's mafia hasn't made a mistake comment was fishy, ^--not that at all So your 7 statements rallying against BB weren't sufficient enough to gather a vote, yet when subversion makes a sentence that seems "fishy" its like "woah, he must be mafia!" and you actually DO vote for him after the BB bandwagon has started. All the while advocating a double lynch.  | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:15 DarthThienAn wrote: But if got lynched right now as a MH, one of my bombs would go to waste =P. Alright, so the town consensus seems to be DTA is mafia or mad hatter. If he's mad hatter, I'm more determined to kill him before he gives the mafia an extra two kp instead of an extra one. I wonder puts bombs on people as jokes. I'm not really sold on the mad hatter thing anyway; I don't thing this is an RP server where you have to act crazy if the word "mad" is in your role name. It'd make more sense to me to lay low like a vigi. He's been acting suspicious all game, its not like he laid low for two days and then did something scummy on day 3 to try to get lynched and activate bombs. If he is mad hatter, mafia know this. If they have any idea who he suspects, here's what happens: They know he is clueless: Mafia will vote to save him from lynch, let him put on another bomb, probably hit him tonight. They know he is really onto them to the point of both of his bombs being on mafia by night 2: Mafia will let him live, at which point we can't tell if DTA isn't a red getting away with it. Here's the question for people who believe he is mad hatter. If so, I bet he's stubborn and puts another bomb down tonight. What are the odds he has his bombs well placed? Damn low. Most likely scenario in that case is that he puts another bomb on someone tonight, mafia kills him and we wake up to a huge body count. Mad Hatter is a good role for town if they can survive long enough to get two really good suspects. They have to lay low enough till they can get a really strong bead before their bombs become more benefit than liability. If DTA is mad hatter like he says, he's already got one bomb placed and just wants to survive to place one more. Why aren't his supporters asking him about his suspects? Do you trust him to kill people that you also suspect? At this point, even if he's mad hatter, I'd rather his bombs go to waste because I doubt if he's blue he survives long enough for them to be used well. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:44 Pandain wrote: So your 7 statements rallying against BB weren't sufficient enough to gather a vote, yet when subversion makes a sentence that seems "fishy" its like "woah, he must be mafia!" and you actually DO vote for him after the BB bandwagon has started. All the while advocating a double lynch. What are my 7 statements? Please post them. I voted for subversion not just because he made a "fishy" statement but also because BB was being voted on like crazy. The only other person that seemed suspicious to me at the thing was subversion so I voted. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:45 chaoser wrote: I just want to point out that a lot of people are voting for me with good solid reasons like, "voting him, someone summarize for me?" or "i skimmed the last few pages" or "oh well, whatever" Honestly, I'd rather vote for Subversion than you, but I want to stay alive, lol. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:40 Pandain wrote: Haven't you understood that DTA jokes alot when he changes? I mean, they were OBVIOUS jokes too. There are better arguments against DTA, stop using that one. Well that's interesting that you get the idea that those votes were jokes, because DTA has clarified that the vote on BB was for his bad vigi plan, and the vote on sub was for the mafia praise; they apparently weren't jokes at all. Yet, I can't blame you at all for thinking they are jokes when he plays like this. This is exactly how the teflon armor works: he does whatever he wants as a "joke" and if joking starts to make him look bad he clarifies with reasons that his actions weren't jokes at all. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
9] chaoser (DarthThienAn, youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, lakrismamma, citi.zen, BrownBear, Divinek) 6] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, darththienan, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum, rastaban)[/quote] not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM day ends in under 5 1/2 hours think that's the vote, modified BM's to be more recent, well good bye town, take note of last minute votes on me | ||
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