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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:43 Pandain wrote: Why would you vote for Chaoser if you didn't even know what he was being lynched for ? :o Actually the least scummy thing he's done so far. Logically, he doesn't want to die. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:49 BrownBear wrote: Actually the least scummy thing he's done so far. Logically, he doesn't want to die. If he really didn't want to die he would have voted for Subversion cause that pushes Subversion to 8, new highest. Just pointing that out. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:51 chaoser wrote: If he really didn't want to die he would have voted for Subversion cause that pushes Subversion to 8, new highest. Just pointing that out. Doesn't Subversion only have 6? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well he has to vote for Chaoser to save himself, anyone would do that. --- Everyone's last vote is serious, the problem with voting like DTA is that we can't know in advance that it's his last vote. We can't ever get too suspicious about his voting patterns because he can be joking. And if his joke vote causes a bandwagon onto someone, he can just keep it there and say he was serious all along. And if someone investigates afterward, they'll focus on the people arguing for the lynch not the guy who is just joking around. Unless someone points out what's going on and how it makes the towns life harder; then he'll have to start acting more normal like he has. Day ends -> last vote is obvious isn't it? My joke vote never caused a bandwagon on someone because I never provided any reasoning because there was none because it was a joke. I assume that everyone here is older than 6 years old and does not blindly follow the leader (although some of you come close to it). ... Actually, I remember now that my vote on BrownBear was a half-joke, because someone said something like "whoever votes for BB is scum" so I voted for BB. Anyway, it's pretty obvious which votes of mine are serious and which of them are not serious. I'll go through and explain them in my next post. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:40 DarthThienAn wrote: "day ends in under 5 1/2 hours" How is that too late? How does my play style not make sense? If you look at all of my posts collectively, you'll realize that I have actually said a decent amount. Nothing compared of my previous games, but contrast it to Subversion, who hardly said anything until like 18 hours ago. I don't even know what the deal with chaoser is, but Day 1, he was one of those last minute voters, iirc., and Day 2, he mostly made lists, which help the town by organizing information, but does not actually offer any insight. Nothing against him though, since I haven't read the recent posts. Think of it this way: do any of those actions "make sense" if I'm mafia? Why would I attract attention to myself so unnecessarily, and then not defend myself if I'm actually lurking? "The defense of I was just being silly doesn’t work either, because they still need content." I did have content. Has anyone bothered to look through my posts? And I personally don't use vote analysis too heavily -> most of my votes have been for fun. My last vote is always serious though. I've said this and done this in previous games. I don't think you were lurking, in fact I think you were being obvious to a fault. I just played the game where you moderated and Chezinu used this ploy the entire time to stay alive despite acting so anti-town. It seems to me that you have tried to re-purpose this same technique when you pulled mafia hoping that you could keep the right amount of insanity without being convicted. It is just seems too convenient of a time too "try a new style" | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:24 Bill Murray wrote: vote count: not voting: double lynch: day ends in under 5 1/2 hours here's to hoping this count is finally right! Since then, Rastaban has voted DTA, so it's now 8-7-7. So DTA could logically vote for subversion to tie the vote, but unless someone else switches votes, he still loses the tiebreaker. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
Perhaps there's some method to his madness?  | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
...Possibly. DTA, if you are about to die, I think it might be time for you to consider roleclaiming... | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: An infundibulum (Latin for funnel; plural, infundibula) is a funnel-shape cavity or organ. 1. chronosynclastic infundibulum n. A point in space where, upon a person entering it, that person's existence in space-time ceases to be linear, becoming discrete. This means that a person that has entered a chronosynclastic infundibulum exists at multiple points and lines in space-time. For example, such a person could exist at all points in time in one place and also appear at another point for five minutes. From Kurt Vonnegut's "The Sirens of Titan." | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:46 DarthThienAn wrote: 1. I only responded to criticism with jokes when it was criticism about my jokes. 2. Are you referring to this post? I'm not saying he's at fault for doing that, I'm saying he's at fault for doing only that. Alone, that is just his interpretation of one of the above posts but whoever was doing the vote summaries. 3. What arguments against me? Until the recent pages, there haven't been all that many if I recall correctly. If there were any that were REALLY worth replying to seriously, I would have already done so. 4. If it was said four times, then why didn't the person asking for clarification already understand it? 5. It's a bull reason to lynch me, though. My voting changing says nothing about my suspicions about who's mafia and who's not mafia. 6. so? 1. You responded to votes against you by zeks and bumatlarge with jokes aimed at their weakest /joking arguments when it wasn't all about that. 2. The point is that he was putting in honest effort to help town and discuss catching mafia. Which is the opposite of how you've been playing for most the game.3 3. The arguments by myself and misder that you've finally gotten around to acknowledging. 4. Your post wasn't addressed to anyone that I could tell. Echoing it again, doesn't hurt I guess, unless the echo chamber is drowning out more productive things. 5. "My voting changing says nothing about my suspicions about who's mafia and who's not mafia." That's a great reason to lynch you. If your voting doesn't match up with your suspicions, and you don't explain why you're voting, you are throwing around confusion sparks everywhere. Just because some of them don't catch fire doesn't make it any less dangerous or more helpful. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 17 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote: Abstain from voting placeholder On July 17 2010 12:03 DarthThienAn wrote: unabstain ##Vote: d3_crescentia Funnier placeholder because I know him. + Show Spoiler + On July 17 2010 12:04 d3_crescentia wrote: oh so is that how it goes ##Vote: DarthThienAn He's joking around, he must be mafia guys. On July 17 2010 12:09 DarthThienAn wrote: Oh yeah? well unvote ##Vote: d3_crescentia Does this sound serious to you? + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2010 05:10 DarthThienAn wrote: If ketomai hasn't posted, why are we lynching him? He's going to get modkilled anyway. I don't get on as much these days, since I've been on vacation. The last 8+ pages or so, I wasn't present for, need to catch up on the last two later still. Switch him out for Amber[Light] imo. unvote ##Vote: Amber[LighT] If you disagree with my plan, let me explain my train of thought. People are going to get modkilled. We want to get rid of mafia. Modkills are going to kill those people anyway, therefore we should lynch someone who would not be modkilled. There are plenty of people who are being unhelpful. I am an example of it - look through to find more people like me. I don't have time to find people like that, but again, d3 is an example. Misder might be an example iirc. Chaoser would be an example. Therefore, we lynch one of those kinds of people, and help the town out by not being worried about it later (is this person mafia lurking or just inactive?) etc etc. A serious post -> a serious vote. Not too hard to follow is it? On July 20 2010 13:59 DarthThienAn wrote: ##Vote: Divinek Reason (this post is right before mine): On July 20 2010 13:59 Divinek wrote: oh since it's day then ##vote brown bear this has already thus been thoroughly justified and i hope i need not repeat myself in this post No explanation -> joke. "Unless everyone lynchinig you is the mob!" joke. On July 21 2010 05:30 DarthThienAn wrote: You'll find him. Again, I'll say that I have said more than half the people - maybe a third now - in this game. Is it so wrong that I choose to have some fun in between? unvote ##Vote: Subversion On July 21 2010 05:35 Pandain wrote: Also this I don't get. So what? He's just noting that maybe the mafia aren't making too many mistakes. I'll say this again, I'm new here, but this definitely doesn't seem like it would prove Subversasion is mafia. Please explain this to me. I mean, we haven't caught any mafia yet(for sure at least), so it's not like his statement is false. And even if it was, why does that make him mafia? I am so confused. Please elaborate. On July 21 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote: Subversion's posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2010 18:20 Subversion wrote: Hey guys, sorry for inactivity, been at the Boryeong Mud Festival! Gonna try catch up On July 18 2010 18:27 Subversion wrote: Cool, been looking over everything. Some interesting stuff happening for the first day. Gonna go over it a little more carefully before casting my vote. Want to see how some people defend themselves, and don't really just want to jump on a voting bandwagon. Also, abstaining is kind of stupid. Will vote later tonight. All of this is useless except for the bolded sentence. + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2010 09:16 Subversion wrote: ##Vote: Hyperbola Not really convinced by him, and there's not really any other clear choice for me right now. Jumps on the bandwagon despite what he said in his 2nd post... ...lol + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2010 13:44 Subversion wrote: Hey man, congratulations, that's really exciting news Wish you all the best On point, I was also in agreement about the weirdness of Foolishness's post, but now he's dead. Seems at the moment, mafia aren't making too many mistakes. Not sure about the block of votes for Hyperbola, seems if it was a scum-instigated thing they could have easily spread it out more? Might have just been a bunch of townies jumping on the bandwagon. Although, I would guess there's a good chance there's one or two mafia in there, who saw an opportunity to jump on a townie vote. Bolded: I don't fully understand the first sentence. The second sentence has been discussed. The rest: He was PART of that voting bloc LOL. I guess that's why he's trying to suggest that he's a townie. The chance of a mafia being there.. it's all pretty obvious. 6/30 players are mafia, a group of 6 or 7? Sure, there's probably 1 or 2 mafia in there. Actually, the mafia made a huge mistake - one of their hits failed, or they stacked their hits on Foolishness, a townie. A smart/good player, but only 1 townie nonetheless. The less people there are, the greater their voting power, it's stupid to stack on night 1. So to me, the statement IS false, but the reason why it's suspicious is that no one would ever genuinely say that -> mafia. I explained because Pandain was sooooo confused. And that was a serious vote. Explanation -> serious vote, although most of my thinking about Subversion happened out of thread. That brings up to chaoser, which is obvious. Cool? Bottom line: I think it was fairly clear when I was serious and when I wasn't serious. So your complaints about my vote changing doesn't really give a reason why I should be lynched.. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:55 SiNiquity wrote: Perhaps there's some method to his madness? Yeah, soft blue it up, threading the needle between so obvious the mafia should have killed him and so useless + obviously green so the town will kill him. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:03 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: 1. chronosynclastic infundibulum n. A point in space where, upon a person entering it, that person's existence in space-time ceases to be linear, becoming discrete. This means that a person that has entered a chronosynclastic infundibulum exists at multiple points and lines in space-time. For example, such a person could exist at all points in time in one place and also appear at another point for five minutes. From Kurt Vonnegut's "The Sirens of Titan." This needs to be a new Protoss unit's ability in Legacy of the Void. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:56 BrownBear wrote: Could BM have put Village Idiot in the game for the lulz? ...Possibly. I've gotten two PMs mentioning this. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 22 2010 08:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: 1. You responded to votes against you by zeks and bumatlarge with jokes aimed at their weakest /joking arguments when it wasn't all about that. 2. The point is that he was putting in honest effort to help town and discuss catching mafia. Which is the opposite of how you've been playing for most the game.3 3. The arguments by myself and misder that you've finally gotten around to acknowledging. 4. Your post wasn't addressed to anyone that I could tell. Echoing it again, doesn't hurt I guess, unless the echo chamber is drowning out more productive things. 5. "My voting changing says nothing about my suspicions about who's mafia and who's not mafia." That's a great reason to lynch you. If your voting doesn't match up with your suspicions, and you don't explain why you're voting, you are throwing around confusion sparks everywhere. Just because some of them don't catch fire doesn't make it any less dangerous or more helpful. 1. Hmm. I'll go find zeks's post. bumatlarge didn't really have a reason did he? If we're thinking of the same post. He was just like, "you're playing different" which isn't really a good reason. 2. "Most of the game." Yet, I up to where I was last caught up, I still said more than 30% of the people in this game. Is that a bad thing? Maybe I'll just say as much as the least person does next time. 3. Misder's argument wasn't really an argument. It was a breakdown of Foolishness's posts, and then a vote for me, either based on the wifomness of Foolishness getting hit, or nothing. 4. Didn't I quote it? And wasn't it right above that post? See my last post where I go through my votes to see. 5. I said my vote CHANGING doesn't. Again, when I vote seriously, then I vote seriously. And I've already posted why it should be obvious what's a joke and what's not. Now that I think of it - d3 is a great target for a hit isn't he? He is a prime example of someone "laying low." Mafia took their chances at him being blue, and either got outsmarted by the medic(s) or hit a veteran. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
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