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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 27 2010 17:42 GMT
#821
Yeah, depending on who's hit this night, we might be mathematically dead.

That we aren't already dead is also a piece of information.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 27 2010 18:03 GMT
#822
AWESOME.

It's by number of teams, btw, not number of players, so even if the mafia happens to be the two 2-player teams, we'd still be alive. At least, I think that's how it works.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 27 2010 18:08 GMT
#823
If mafia control the lynch numerically, it doesn't fucking matter how many teams are left.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 27 2010 18:14 GMT
#824
So, now we are in this wonderful state we like to call LYLO, as in, Lynch or Lose. Unless a highly awesome thing happens (there happens to be a medic in the game, and he happens to protect the right person tonight, and he happens to not get roleblocked), we are going into tomorrow with 3 town, 2 mafia. We miss a lynch from this point out, and it's game over.

So, with that in mind, let's look at who's left in the game...

Team 3: 2 people still (LaXerCannon and bumatlarge)
Team 4: 2 people (Ace and DTA
Team 5: YellowInk
Team 6: L
Team 7: 2 people (Nikon and Meeple
Team 8: Me all by my lonesome T_T

Friggin inactive teammates... I have the gimpest of the gimp votes now, because I now have only 2 votes to everyone else's 3. This sucks. Moving on...

By the time the night is over, I'd like to see everyone analyze the team ABOVE them on this list (so team 3 analyzes me, I analyze team 7, etc. etc.) gogogogogogogo.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 27 2010 18:14 GMT
#825
On June 28 2010 03:08 L wrote:
If mafia control the lynch numerically, it doesn't fucking matter how many teams are left.


Shit son, you are correct.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 27 2010 18:38 GMT
#826
TEAM 7: Nikon, zyrre (smote), meeple

A quick overview
-The most inactive team still left in the game.
-Only posts, and I mean ONLY posts, when their integrity or inactivity is called into question.

Now, in most games, this alone would be grounds for a lynch. However, given the gravity of the situation, we should look deeper.

Pages 1-29 or so: almost NOTHING of substance. Like seriously. They didn't even have to post to get out of being lynched thanks to BM-Chez playing the retard card and getting lynched for it. Definitely sets themselves up to be standard lurker team, contributing almost nothing. Interestingly, zyrre was slightly more active, but he's now dead.

Page 31: Zyrre agrees with Ace against L - looks good for L, bad for Ace, given the way I'm leaning on this team.

Page 33: Nikon posts this:
On June 26 2010 03:27 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote:
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.


Unless he just got them out of the way so they won't argue with his posts later on. I don't know why supporting a scummy team would be a good thing in your book.


Well, in this case, DCL actually had pretty good logic. It is pretty rare that mafia gets modkilled, even more so if the mafia is someone like Caller. Caller getting mafia is just an epic excuse for him to troll, you have to think he'd jump at the chance. I think that modkills make it less likely that a team has a blue/red role, at least in this game, because the addition of something else to do/the feeling of power for having a blue/red role tends to make people more active (sure, mafia try to lurk all the time, but they also tend to post just enough to avoid modkills).

Secondly, why would L push for killing Team 1 right after having an argument with them? L knows that if there's a public argument in a thread, and then one party in that argument dies, the other party tends to get lynched for "shutting up" the other person. It's a pretty weak reason to lynch someone, because mafia knows about it too and will lynch one half of a townie argument to throw suspicion on the other townie. I don't buy L double-faking us out like that.

So Nikon's logic is flawed, let's see if meeple has anything to say.

In between, zyrre has some excellent analysis going, and some decent quality posts, but most of it was what had already been said before, so he actually wasn't that helpful. I guess he got modkilled for failure to vote, which sucks. Back to meeple...

meeple...

Apparently did not post in the thread the entirety of Day 2. Looking at the voting thread, looks like he didn't vote either.

Wut? How is he not modkilled?


Summary: Zyrre was the only part of this team that had somewhat ok logic, and he is dead, and even he was pretty inactive and unhelpful, preferring to only say what had been sad before. Nikon is kind of fail at a) staying alive, b) posting things of substance, and c) provoking any meaningful discussion.

I'm starting to get a scum read here.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 27 2010 21:57 GMT
#827
Sorry really busy with patries and work this weekend. T9 lynch was not a good move, and only increases the chances of L or T4 being mafia. Hopefully Ill be able to read more into everything much later ar in the morning
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 27 2010 22:02 GMT
#828
Guys PM me your night action. Also, I guess since flamewheel adjusted voting powers (not something I had originally thought of) then mafia doesn't win until their total voting power is higher than town's total voting power.

So if there are two teams left and one is mafia but has less voting power than the town team, then mafia loses. This was not considered in the original setup when I had just intended for teams to be modkilled together and votes to always be 1/n... so hopefully this won't break the game too much...
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 23:07:34
June 27 2010 23:06 GMT
#829
On June 28 2010 07:02 Korynne wrote:
Guys PM me your night action. Also, I guess since flamewheel adjusted voting powers (not something I had originally thought of) then mafia doesn't win until their total voting power is higher than town's total voting power.

So if there are two teams left and one is mafia but has less voting power than the town team, then mafia loses. This was not considered in the original setup when I had just intended for teams to be modkilled together and votes to always be 1/n... so hopefully this won't break the game too much...

(From OP):
On June 21 2010 12:53 flamewheel wrote:
If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win the game.

I argue that if the mafia votes equal the townspeople votes, the mafia win.
Uff Da
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 23:13:03
June 27 2010 23:12 GMT
#830
Equal to is fine (and actually Qatol is probably right, equal to is correct, not greater than), basically when mafia ties town. My point was that it should be by votes and not by number of teams.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 27 2010 23:28 GMT
#831
On June 28 2010 03:38 BrownBear wrote:
Pages 1-29 or so: almost NOTHING of substance. Like seriously. They didn't even have to post to get out of being lynched thanks to BM-Chez playing the retard card and getting lynched for it.


Are we even playing the same game? You're doing exactly what Murray did, trying to vote me off on false pretenses. Or like, let's all selectively ignore parts of the game altogether.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 27 2010 23:33 GMT
#832
On June 28 2010 03:38 BrownBear wrote:
Secondly, why would L push for killing Team 1 right after having an argument with them? L knows that if there's a public argument in a thread, and then one party in that argument dies, the other party tends to get lynched for "shutting up" the other person. It's a pretty weak reason to lynch someone, because mafia knows about it too and will lynch one half of a townie argument to throw suspicion on the other townie. I don't buy L double-faking us out like that.

So Nikon's logic is flawed,


Your logic blows. Just because you believe that someone hasn't done something, doesn't mean it is so, especially when you're missing information. You are missing information, right?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 27 2010 23:49 GMT
#833
"meeple...

Apparently did not post in the thread the entirety of Day 2. Looking at the voting thread, looks like he didn't vote either.

Wut? How is he not modkilled?
"


he was V/LA
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 28 2010 00:06 GMT
#834
When does Day start?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 28 2010 00:22 GMT
#835
Should start at normal time, aka about 90min from now.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 00:46 GMT
#836
I really expect to die tonight, so I'll say this; When looking at who mafia might be tomorrow, make sure to look at impossible scenarios which would already have resulted in their win. A 3+4 team, for instance, cannot exist because they'd have won already.

Keep that in mind, because the total vote counts are very likely to be important. There are certain night hits that automatically reveal who the other team is, so they might not move to destroy the maximum amount of votes. I personally think they'll hit a 3 or 4 player team unless they can auto-win by hitting the six vote team.

Anyways, best of luck town. Guarantee we shoulda bonked Ace yesterday.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 28 2010 00:48 GMT
#837
jeez this kid can't even make up his mind about who's scum. Sounds like scum to me.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
June 28 2010 00:53 GMT
#838
I don't think they they'll hit us or team 4 because that would make it a lot more obvious on who's mafia or not (assuming town is still alive after losing one of team 3,4).
Just keep swimming
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 00:54 GMT
#839
I can't make up my mind because I still think you're scum?

Dang. You're an idiot.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 00:55 GMT
#840
On June 28 2010 09:53 LaXerCannon wrote:
I don't think they they'll hit us or team 4 because that would make it a lot more obvious on who's mafia or not (assuming town is still alive after losing one of team 3,4).

I forgot a don't, but yeah. If they kill certain teams they automatically lose the game.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
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