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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Look at the lack of spam these last couple pages! We can definitely get a good read on what me, Ace, L, DCLXVI have said in these two pages compared to like 25 pages of spam before that that. Also Ace, what is your opinion of how scummy DCLXVI is based on his posts during the night? | ||
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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Ace
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Bill Murray
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On June 25 2010 05:08 Korynne wrote: Chezinu was mafia that last game that Incog/me ran. Seems like he was still spewing nonsense in there half the time. The whole idea is that BM/Chez is hard to read because they're so crazy and really, getting rid of them just makes life easier for town in general. Look at the lack of spam these last couple pages! We can definitely get a good read on what me, Ace, L, DCLXVI have said in these two pages compared to like 25 pages of spam before that that. Also Ace, what is your opinion of how scummy DCLXVI is based on his posts during the night? I don't want to call him scummy yet because right now L is definitely #1 in my book. DCLXVI is along the same veins of making up conspiracy theories and motives that don't support what actually happened. Really he could just be confused. The problem here is players don't look at the game as a whole and just isolate events. So they don't understand why certain things have played out the way they did so far. The result? Said players end up jumping into specific points of the game ignoring everything and getting into arguments because they just don't want to understand what has happened so far. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
1) 9 was relatively quiet, which means they were comfortable with how they were posting. When votes came on to them, both of them made it very clear they were not comfortable and went through a good deal of wishy washy voting to prepare their thoughts on the whole matter. By the time I read their posts that were very similar to BM's attempt at survival, it was nearing the deadline. Due to T2's style and chez absence at that time, I preferedd losing them as opposed to T9's potential to help the town. 2) Out of the selfish logic to put the votes on them rather then myself. My death wouldnt lead anywhere and both the other teams still could be mafia. The only certainty I had was myself being town, and I was going to keep myself alive if push came to shove. I would have switched my vote to anyone BM or darth asked me to. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
So my conclusion on that whole fiasco is that he seems to think I have a great big conspiracy plan (even though no one else in the thread thought so) and that he wanted to make sure my great big conspiracy plan that doesn't exist doesn't happen. I'm still not convinced that he wasn't trying to pull a flip in that we lynch us and then he looks greener but he had lots of holes in his argument that he patched up later so I would say that's like, a reasonable paranoid newb move. So if Ace presents a good case on L I'm okay with lynching him instead, or if someone else brings up a good case but otherwise I think my vote will stay on T9 just in case they are trying to pull the flip. Like honestly I just don't see how one is /likely/ to magically think up this conspiracy theory unless they were mafia. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
A deeper motive for korynne protecting team 9 as mafia? They're allies and she wanted out. From the town's perspective? Well, derp derp, Korynne was trying to kill them until the very end. Why bother switching if she originally wanted 9 gone? Because someone would 'out' themselves as mafia by vote switching? Well, she specifically mentions that she acted to prevent chez from acting, which means her entire system of logic is built on excuses. Really? I guess that means I'm a mafia buddy with team 9 too. That's why I made several large posts about why I thought they were mafia, and why I think we should lynch them, when prior to that they had no pressure whatsoever. Anyways, Korynne clearly stated why she vote switched. If I had been around I probably would have said not to bother, mostly because I would have rather Chez switched to Team 9 and lynched them. You'll notice I read Team 2 as fairly town(although that is a standard mafia ploy). Anyways, I was all ready to make a big post, but it seems like things have settled down a bit. At the very least Korynne, we probably won't die tonight since you've cast some suspicion on us  | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
is it now time for me to claim I was "just fishing" to see who would jump on with my ridiculous scheme and now start pointing fingers at L? Hope you all are happy that I started talking | ||
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Zyrre
Sweden291 Posts
On June 25 2010 05:57 Ace wrote: I've illustrated my case on L the past few pages. If you need it to be more clear let me know. Reading through this it does sound convincing. L would be an easy target for mafia to go after though. Only one person that needs to be implicated, and L has been posting quite a lot. Some of his mistakes are ones I would make myself. BUT, since none of Ace's posts seem like mafia and Ace has been bashing L since the start, that seems highly unlikely. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
Gonna be coming up with my own theories after some post analysis, i hope i get called red for that as well. Lowest level tactic in the ol' mindset | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 25 2010 06:46 Zyrre wrote: Reading through this it does sound convincing. L would be an easy target for mafia to go after though. Only one person that needs to be implicated, and L has been posting quite a lot. Some of his mistakes are ones I would make myself. BUT, since none of Ace's posts seem like mafia and Ace has been bashing L since the start, that seems highly unlikely. Incorrect, some of Ace's posts seem scummy. Particularly the fact that he pushed hard for Team 2, when I think he should have known better. It's almost like he was surprised they were shitting up the thread. However, I agree with him that L seems scummy. He's near the top of my list, but what really puts me off is Caller quitting. I really don't think Caller would have bailed on the game if he'd gotten a mafia role. It's strange, but this alone gives Team 6 some townie cred. If we do lynch L, and he flips green, I propose we go after Ace. Why? Because it means one of two things: Ace is a mafia and has led us to lynch two townies, or, Ace is town, playing extremely poorly and has led us to lynch two townies. Ace is not a poor player. If his actions and analysis are giving poor results, then he needs to be questioned for it. Teams I'm ok lynching: Team 4, Team 6, Team 9. However, if Team 4 flips red, then Zyrre needs to be held accountable for his above post. If I was mafia what would I do. First, railroad the two spammers, easily done, they basically lynch themselves. Second, go after L, he's inflammatory, he makes occasionally poor arguments, and he'll probably turn everyone against himself anyways. Third hasn't happened yet, but mine would be to pick on whomever the most inactive/newbie team is, and try to convince everyone they are scum. Most newbie teams have a ton of scumtells whether they are mafia or not(See team 9). So far Ace has two checkmarks., but of course if L flips red then Ace is likely green. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 25 2010 09:21 Korynne wrote: Wow this thread died... can we get some people to do analysis? Me and Radfield both did a couple already... but I'll do more later on. That's what we get for removing BM and Chez Funny that you enjoy smaller games because there are less people to analyze, and yet you've gone and created a 'small' game with a ton of people | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 25 2010 09:21 Korynne wrote: Wow this thread died... can we get some people to do analysis? Me and Radfield both did a couple already... but I'll do more later on. On June 25 2010 09:37 Radfield wrote: That's what we get for removing BM and Chez Funny that you enjoy smaller games because there are less people to analyze, and yet you've gone and created a 'small' game with a ton of people For my part I'm awaiting daybreak. I'm not sure how much can be gained by talking at night unless there's a lot of sudden info to be digested. The Korynne instigated discussion was fine, I just figure talking about new suspicions could help mafia choose their kill to manipulate my intentions. I'd rather deny this of them. I had used the night phases of XXVI to go fishing since 1) it was a noob game, 2) I was pardoner, 3) PMs were allowed, and 4) I was having a hard time getting certain people to talk. I'm not so sure night phase talk is as useful here - assuming people are sufficiently active during the day that we can come to reasonable conclusions. | ||
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