EPTI'll post a bit more when I get back from work tomorrow or maybe in the morning, but a few statements on the last two pages should be setting off people's scumdars like crazy.
Until then, mes amis.
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L
Canada4732 Posts
I'll post a bit more when I get back from work tomorrow or maybe in the morning, but a few statements on the last two pages should be setting off people's scumdars like crazy. Until then, mes amis. | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On June 25 2010 11:50 Divinek wrote: So all for throwing random accusations out there but doesnt this make it really likely that either ace or L are red now, sicne they're just known as good, active players and obv the mob would want to take them out first instead of radfield? It seems logical that the mob would want to take out the good players. Well, unless the good players are helping them by drawing attention away from the mafia. However, aren't a lot of the people who are still alive regular mafia players? I checked the player list from some other games. From the Harry Potter mafia: stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, YellowInk, DCLXVI, and LaXerCannon. From TL Mafia XXVII: Radfield, meeple, L, and johnnyspazz. From TL Mafia XXVI: Zyrre, bumatlarge, YellowInk, DCLXVI, LaXerCannon, BrownBear, and DarthThienAn. I don't know who was considered good but the list covers everyone except me, you, Ace, and Nikon. Since we're all on different teams, every team has an experienced player. Therefore, experience doesn't seem to be a determining factor. I can think of a few other possibilites why the mob might not want to kill Ace and L. It's possible that the mob is leaving them alive because they're accusing eachother. It's also possible that they're both mafia: creating confusion by arguing, not killing eachother, etc. The last possibility I can think of is that Ace or L is mafia and is figuring that we will lynch the other, or that they'll murder them later as it would be too suspicious now. On June 25 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hum.. wondering why the mafia killed Radfield's team, unless they did it because he was Radfield. Almost makes me think we don't have a medic because that's such an obvious person to protect =P. Going through his posts, let's see who he points fingers at / sides with: Radfield + Show Spoiler + --by post number-- 163: calls out 6-9 for 'laying low'. 314: Team 6 - Caller for being inactive, L for creating confusion. (Reads Team 2 as town) 392: Direct analysis of one of DCLXVI's posts, says it screams mafia. Link. Mostly calling them out for inactivity, but also for poor posting. 395: Analysis of Divinek, points out that Divinek has mostly been riding the opinions/words of others. noncommital, etc. 397: Analysis of DCLXVI, says the same things essentially, calls their playing style mafia-like. 398: Analysis of MooCow, same result. Calls to lynch them/calls for thoughts on Team 9. 426: calls for more looking at Team 9. 447: Analysis of bumatlarge, says he has a few decent posts, but otherwise spams a lot. Doesn't get a huge scum vibe from him however. 459: Points out L and Caller's inactivity again. 506: Okay with either lynches (Team 2, or Team 9). Says he reads red on Team 9, but is okay with letting them live for another day. 618: Says some of Ace's posts are scummy, ie. his push for Team 2. Also thinks that L is scummy however (near the top of his suspect list). Summary: Radfield points the finger almost exclusively at Teams 6 and 9... Before his death, he still though L was scummy. The question is, how much of this is Radfield reading poorly, and how of it is accurate? We at least know his thoughts are sincere and pro-town. So keep this in mind I guess. Random Thought: After looking through his posts again, I realize that Radfield (and probably Korynne although I haven't gone through her posts) were decent posts -> good hit for mafia. Add that to the 'entertainment value' for this game, and it makes it the perfect hit? You're on Ace's team so obviously you would downplay Radfield's post (618) putting Ace in a bad spot. Your summary that "Radfield points the finger almost exclusively at Teams 6 and 9" seems to be contrary to Radfield's most recent posts about Ace. Sure, he conceded a few things right before night fell, but I still think he was suspicious. On June 25 2010 09:35 Radfield wrote: If we do lynch L, and he flips green, I propose we go after Ace. Why? Because it means one of two things: Ace is a mafia and has led us to lynch two townies, or, Ace is town, playing extremely poorly and has led us to lynch two townies. Ace is not a poor player. If his actions and analysis are giving poor results, then he needs to be questioned for it. If the rest of my reasoning is true, this might not be too far fetched. To bring it back to Divinek's post, I think this could be why Radfield was murdered. This might be superficial reasoning but it seems relevant (right before day and his death) and it could be unexpected from Ace if everyone else is assuming he's some super-deep thinking pro. + Show Spoiler [Post Script] + It's pretty late and I'm getting tired. I was looking at the word "deep" after I typed it and I wasn't sure if I misspelled it or something. I googled deep to check the spelling. Hilariously, a couple of the front page results are "Deep Throat (1972") and "How To Deep Throat WIthout Gagging" | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
If I had wanted to downplay Radfield's read on Ace, I could've just as easily deleted that from my analysis. I kinda assume that people read my posts in full and therefore would be able to remember that fact. But if I call you scummy in one post and someone else scummy in five posts, which one should I focus on? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I'm going to put my vote on them, as it seems alot of people are in agreement with this line of thought. I'm willing to put the vote on first, as I think this will be a decent time for newer townies to risk themselves against more experienced players. I was fairly cautious as a mafia, but now that we don't have much of an alternative, I'm willing to stay true to the amateur townie habits I've developed. It's a shame I haven't gotten to witness Darth as townie, so I could give him more leniency for his style, but this doesn't seem radically different from his previous game. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 25 2010 13:52 bumatlarge wrote: I've got a strong feeling that either team 4 or L are mafia. It might not seem like team 4 has done much to warrant it, but I know first hand darth can act completely pro-town, especially in a game with no clues. I'm sure Ace has the ability to play right along side that style of play. Id think L only because hes been so negative in this thread and has acted generally underwhelmed by most everyone's play. But Im not too scared of the prospect of L being mafia. I'm afraid we will definitely lose if team 4 is mafia and not lynched today. I'm going to put my vote on them, as it seems alot of people are in agreement with this line of thought. I'm willing to put the vote on first, as I think this will be a decent time for newer townies to risk themselves against more experienced players. I was fairly cautious as a mafia, but now that we don't have much of an alternative, I'm willing to stay true to the amateur townie habits I've developed. It's a shame I haven't gotten to witness Darth as townie, so I could give him more leniency for his style, but this doesn't seem radically different from his previous game. Thanks for the compliment... But your logic doesn't really make sense. You think I'm pro-town, therefore I must be mafia. What would happen if I seemed like mafia to you? It's an impossible situation for me, which means there's a problem somewhere. Seriously, think about it. If I always seem pro-town, then it's not an aspect of my play you can call me scummy for. I don't think it's bad that the town thought I was pro-town last game, and I don't think it's bad if I come across as pro-town to you this game. That's supposed to say "OK, he's less of a suspect, who looks more suspicious?" If I actually have that good of a playing style (which I doubt), then you can't base my scumminess on that, because it's always the same - therefore, it doesn't indicate my role toward either alignment. And to lynch players because they are 'good' players and might be mafia is just silly, and encourages bad play. Furthermore, if you lynch all the good players, bad players will be left over, and the town will most likely lose because they are bad. If you're going to base this on our last game, I could say the same about you. Your posts seem pretty much the same to me, and I've commented on what I think about them. But I don't call you scummy because of your playing style and I don't consider your previous game style too much. When I call some of your posts scummy, it's because most of your posts aren't that great -> spam -> bad for the thread -> ~scummy. But you've had decent posts too, which is why I didn't push harder for your lynch and think you could easily be town. Anyway. Where do you get your "strong feeling" that either me/Ace or L is mafia? Show me proof. What doesn't match up? Just because I, or Ace, or L have the ability to appear pro-town while being mafia, does not make us mafia. "I'm afraid we will definitely lose if team 4 is mafia and not lynched today." People said that last game too about me being mafia mayor. Town still won. Granted we sorta gave up after the DT checks came in, but having a good player as mafia != autolose for town. Who's in agreement with your line of thought? Maybe L, because he and Ace are still catfighting + because he was vague about who had "terrible posts" in the last couple pages. Maybe Durak even though his point about me in that last post isn't really valid. Maybe Divinek? All he's done is cry about me voting for him to get his team posting more, which ended up happening, more because of Radfield though I guess. Your 'taking a risk' by voting for me isn't a risk at all either. Because you preface your vote with that paragraph, your voting first absolutely nothing about you, because it can be taken either way. "I'm willing to put the vote on first, as I think this will be a decent time for newer townies to risk themselves against more experienced players" This sentence is all fluff, for example. Also, if I'm mafia, why am I posting in a dead thread when I could just let it be? See you all in ~24 hours. I expect Ace to reinforce why your logic doesn't really hold if he needs to. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On June 25 2010 14:20 DarthThienAn wrote: And to lynch players because they are 'good' players and might be mafia is just silly, and encourages bad play. i think the line of reasoning is more like, yes they are 'good' players. They certainly have shown more depth and perception than anyone thus far, and are obviously known and experienced at this game. So why would the mafia not choose one of them to be lynched? It might not be a, lets lynch them! kind of thing, but what good reason can you come up with to answer that question. I mean i may lack enough experience playing with you guys but if i was red i certainly would have gotten one of those two teams. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On June 25 2010 14:20 DarthThienAn wrote: Thanks for the compliment... But your logic doesn't really make sense. You think I'm pro-town, therefore I must be mafia. What would happen if I seemed like mafia to you? It's an impossible situation for me, which means there's a problem somewhere. Seriously, think about it. If I always seem pro-town, then it's not an aspect of my play you can call me scummy for. I don't think it's bad that the town thought I was pro-town last game, and I don't think it's bad if I come across as pro-town to you this game. That's supposed to say "OK, he's less of a suspect, who looks more suspicious?" If I actually have that good of a playing style (which I doubt), then you can't base my scumminess on that, because it's always the same - therefore, it doesn't indicate my role toward either alignment. And to lynch players because they are 'good' players and might be mafia is just silly, and encourages bad play. Furthermore, if you lynch all the good players, bad players will be left over, and the town will most likely lose because they are bad. If you're going to base this on our last game, I could say the same about you. Your posts seem pretty much the same to me, and I've commented on what I think about them. But I don't call you scummy because of your playing style and I don't consider your previous game style too much. When I call some of your posts scummy, it's because most of your posts aren't that great -> spam -> bad for the thread -> ~scummy. But you've had decent posts too, which is why I didn't push harder for your lynch and think you could easily be town. Anyway. Where do you get your "strong feeling" that either me/Ace or L is mafia? Show me proof. What doesn't match up? Just because I, or Ace, or L have the ability to appear pro-town while being mafia, does not make us mafia. "I'm afraid we will definitely lose if team 4 is mafia and not lynched today." People said that last game too about me being mafia mayor. Town still won. Granted we sorta gave up after the DT checks came in, but having a good player as mafia != autolose for town. Who's in agreement with your line of thought? Maybe L, because he and Ace are still catfighting + because he was vague about who had "terrible posts" in the last couple pages. Maybe Durak even though his point about me in that last post isn't really valid. Maybe Divinek? All he's done is cry about me voting for him to get his team posting more, which ended up happening, more because of Radfield though I guess. Your 'taking a risk' by voting for me isn't a risk at all either. Because you preface your vote with that paragraph, your voting first absolutely nothing about you, because it can be taken either way. "I'm willing to put the vote on first, as I think this will be a decent time for newer townies to risk themselves against more experienced players" This sentence is all fluff, for example. Also, if I'm mafia, why am I posting in a dead thread when I could just let it be? See you all in ~24 hours. I expect Ace to reinforce why your logic doesn't really hold if he needs to. "Also, if I'm mafia, why am I posting in a dead thread when I could just let it be?" Because that's not how you play mafia from what I've gathered. I have to be honest, I think this is the worst I've played a game of mafia ever, with genuinely incoherent ideas and roundabout logic that doesn't go anywhere. I've been desperate and nonchalant and ultimately ignorant of what I should do as a townie. I've pissed on the serious gameplay along with BM and chez, and I got well deserved dirt for it. I havent put all the effort I could have into my posts, and I still feel like I make all sorts of errors. But this game isn't about how well you construct your posts and your helpfulness, it's about getting rid of scum. I've read everyone of the posts you have made in this and the previous game. Your a great player and know how the game works and what "should" be done. That's why when that red role lands on you again, your forced to have this set way of going about it. That's what alot of the veterans have done also. I can't read people for shit. I could barely do it in the game where I was mafia. I've tried here, but I just can't be ignorant that people are capable of making concrete townie analysis in a game with no real evidence. Except when people start dying. I doubt anyone appreciated BM and chez, because it's not something you should condone. But very good players hate it most of all, because they arent allowed to play the game "properly" when that element of randomness is pressured on to an already random-ish guessing game. So it's preferable for the town to feel a need to get rid of them, avoid resorting to finger-pointing, one free--nighttime. But I could throw this on anyone. Killing team 1 is another thing. Why arent you dead? The general consensus is that you are the strongest team player and analysis wise. You haven't thrown anyone under the wheels, except for maybe Ace on L but I will get to that. From a purely red PoV without any deep thought, I'd kill you in a heart beat. Team 1 arent some nobody team, they posted clear and logical posts without being overly committed to the game. Text-book vanilla right there. Text-book night hit right there. But they did suggest being suspicious of you, so you'd assume you could get away with that suspicion because that is outweighed by how towny you are. I feel you got sloppy, thought maybe all these "lower-tier players" wouldn't really have the gall to accuse you guys of something. Of course you'd never call them bad players, right? Just unfamiliar and accepting of criticisms. Criticism means brownie points in your book. +1 townieness. Maybe Im getting into gross miscalculations here? But Im not going to ask team 4 to correct me in that matter, Im going to ask the rest of the town. Maybe L is very clever like people suggest. Ace seemed to be against him from the start, which I completely understand from both red and green sides. I was really appalled at caller for that modkill, as I expected them to be your rival team in terms of decent players. But that screams strategic modkill in my book, if L's team is scum. Flamewheel said it was a valid modkill on inactivity, and caller said he had a strategy going into this game involving being inactive or something, so I think it's safe to assume L had nothing to do with it. So from L being mafia viewpoint; team 2 was the same thing, free nighttime. I'd only hit team 1 if I was really afraid of a medic on you, or the things Ace had said were to direct. He plays a complicated game when it comes to posting, so I can only assume he's just as complicated with his self-interest in the hard facts of the game. So I want L to address it, with no condescending remarks on a person's reasoning and then dismissing them illogical. Because to me, that's bullshit. I hope the town steps it up, and lynches either Team 4 or L. Or then you can lynch me. And I'm going to keep saying that "fluff" because I'd almost like everyone to realize I was completely frank and open about it, as much as town winning the game. It's a nice feeling when town sees your legitimate, one of the boons of being vanilla. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On June 25 2010 03:38 L wrote: No. The 3 teams I had my eye on were teams 3, 8 and 9. A deeper motive for korynne protecting team 9 as mafia? They're allies and she wanted out. From the town's perspective? Well, derp derp, Korynne was trying to kill them until the very end. Why bother switching if she originally wanted 9 gone? Because someone would 'out' themselves as mafia by vote switching? Well, she specifically mentions that she acted to prevent chez from acting, which means her entire system of logic is built on excuses. Look at the vote history. There was a huge swing away from team 7 onto 9. 2 only got put into the lead because a far stronger wagon derailed and there wasn't enough time to switch onto 9. That isn't a town 'plan' like korynne's trying to defend. The move makes literally 0 sense from a town perspective if she thought 9 was a fantastic target. What's most likely is the following; Korynne is mafia and knows that neither of the teams are mafia. In splitting her/radfields focus she allows herself to distance from the push against an innnocent team, and she can put her almost abstain status vote in a sort of quasi-explained limbo. What's more? The method of argumentation she uses pre-supposes that 9 is innocent. Well why the fuck did you+radfield push them if you thought they were green? This for instance strikes me as a way L's demeanor helps him. I would never make this kind of post on a team I was about to kill. But again maybe L has some convoluted scheme revolving around he knew what he was doing then, planned on killing korynne, and then assuming someone would pick up it later, and take it as a evidence of him not being scum. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On June 25 2010 15:33 bumatlarge wrote: This for instance strikes me as a way L's demeanor helps him. I would never make this kind of post on a team I was about to kill. But again maybe L has some convoluted scheme revolving around he knew what he was doing then, planned on killing korynne, and then assuming someone would pick up it later, and take it as a evidence of him not being scum. Hard as it is to believe, this actually makes me less suspicious of L. In a mafia game, it's not very common for scum to kill people they are arguing with, as that can cast suspicion on them, and L, despite his playstyle I don't agree with, has to know this. Especially since he's acting alone at this point, it can't have been his teammate(s) being dumb, so it's difficult to continue pointing FOS at him. He's not cleared in my book, but he definitely looks a bit less suspicious. Let's look at other teams: Team 1: dead :'( Team 2: dead >< Team 3: bumatlarge has produced some diamonds of quality and a small ocean of spam. LaXer is playing like I do: probably not posting as much as he should, but trying to make each post count. bum is having a fatty argument with L right now, which could be something to look at. Team 4: I'm a bit confused as to why they didn't die either. Maybe mafia is concerned there might be a medic in the game, and tried to hit someone they thought a less likely target? Probably not true, considering Radfield is the most likely target in the game, so if medic exists he's dumb. Either way, back to them: pro-town, most people seem to think so, I agree, moving on. Team 5: The "new" team (Yellow's second game, Durak's first), but they've proven themselves to be pretty talented so far. Some solid analysis coming out of Durak, a couple holes in their logic as a whole but nothing particularly scummy. Again, they've had a little spat with L (both of them, not just one element of their team), so that might be worth checking into. Team 6: L is annoying, but as I said above, I'm less suspicious of him following night 1. I'm still keeping an eye on him. Team 7: Still waaaaay too inactive. I don't want to lynch an inactive just for inactivity though. Here's hoping they post more. Team 8: Someone else gotta do the analysis here  Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with... It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now. | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 26 2010 01:53 BrownBear wrote: Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with... It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now. Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that... If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed. I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9. | ||
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Korynne
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Bill Murray
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote: I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9. Unless he just got them out of the way so they won't argue with his posts later on. I don't know why supporting a scummy team would be a good thing in your book. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
People who have said something of note (currently making no judgement about whether their content makes them look good or baD): Durak, bumatlarge, DarthThienAn, Divinek, BrownBear, DCLXVI, and maybe half credit to Nikon since despite being a oneliner showed some alignment with a kind of thinking. This means we need to hear from LaXerCannon, Ace, L, more from Nikon, Zyrre, meeple, stormtemplar, and johnnyspazz. My vote is going to team 7 for resumed inactivity. This posting pattern alone is scummy. When they return to active status, I will definitely still count this as a mark against them. However, as with day 1, I expect that they will at least come forward to defend themselves and we can judge them on their merits. | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 26 2010 03:27 Nikon wrote: Unless he just got them out of the way so they won't argue with his posts later on. I don't know why supporting a scummy team would be a good thing in your book. Did you read my entire post? I said that on the assumption of a certain level of playing from L, that he would not do something as obvious as kill a team he was arguing with. To my point of view it looks good for him to support my team because I don't think a mafia team would openly support a scummy looking townie team. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
I'm still not a big fan of what Team 3 has had to say. I still think there's a good chance this is a read team due to their passive push behind BM's attacks on me. I don't feel that either Bum or LaXer's commentary have been significantly beneficial to the town. I think that even Team 7's limited/defensive posting yesterday gave us better direction and information than Team 3. Going by voting records, Team 9 looks the worst to me. While some people have carried on the torch of 'Team 9 still looks kinda scummy', consider that Team 1 and Team 2 were both voting against Team 9. Now they're dead. Granted, this is soft evidence, mafia could have done this just to make us look harder at lynching 9. With L being a single player team, he's almost just as effective if he's mafia and less effective if he's town. It's also going to be harder to pull scum tells out of this 'team' since there is only one player talking. For my part, I want to hear L talking more than the average player to make up for this. I know he's at work right now, but I wasn't impressed with his (lack of) posting at the end of day 1. Per the schedule he had posted and his posting patterns halfway through day 1, I had expected activity from him at the end of day 1 in the couple hours before the close of the day. Especially so since there was such a balance between 3 teams that anyone could easily sway the results of the vote! I'd like to note here that in my conversation with Radfield about talking at night, this would be an example of one of the more subtle thigns I chose not to talk about at night. If I had brought up L's partial inactivity at the critical time, the mafia might have chosen to leave L alive specifically because they knew I wanted him hounded for an answer and there are other people who already suspect him for various reasons. I'm not saying any of this makes L red, it's just another piece of evidence to look at. I want to hear L's explanations. All of this is soft evidence so I'm not pointing fingers about any of it yet. Lets hear what these teams have to say. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
Second paragraph should read as: I'm still not a big fan of what Team 3 has had to say. I still think there's a good chance this is a red team due to the passive push behind BM's attacks on me. I don't feel that either Bum or LaXer's commentary have been significantly beneficial to the town. I think that even Team 7's limited/defensive posting yesterday gave us better direction and information than Team 3. their=>the LaXer was not directly supporting the passive attack on me, though I am not impressed with LaXer's posts. read => red typo Hit post without pasting in the final proofread draft, blech | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote: Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that... If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed. I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9. Well, that's the thing: Ive played with L before, and I know he knows how stuff like this works. I haven't really played with either of you ever, so I have no clue if you would know whether that's an obvious scumtell or not. It's pretty soft evidence, thats why I didn't outright accuse you: I'm just saying that your voting pattern, posting patterns, and the game events make you somewhat suspicious. Not scummy, just suspicious. As for your logic behind the Team 4 vs L thing... The thing is, both L and Team 4 had arguments with Team 2... and I'm reasonably sure L is smart enough to not ragekill them, and I know for sure that Ace and DTA are smart enough to not ragekill them. Thus, I'm not really looking at those arguments as saying anything, other than Team 4 and Team L look less suspicious. That said, DTA is a masterful player, and can easily appear clean when he isn't. This doesn't mean I'm accusing him at all ( <3 you DTA :3 ) but I am watching him closer than I would a newbie. (what, me, sore about last game? Nevar! :D) I still think you and Divinek need to step up and look less suspicious, though. There is not much to go on for this day, so even appearing suspicious can be deadly. And Team 7 needs to step the fuck up, seriously. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Inactivity is still a problem and probably will be through the game, but any thoughts on team 4? Im sure you have some opinions of darth after the other game. He seems to state that his posting wold be exactly the same whether hes mafia or town. I know you were in pm contact for a bit and trusted what he had said for the most part. Your word would outclass mine in this regard. I know yo generally feel that game was a bit nooby, but I doubt you let that distrupt your messages to darth. | ||
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