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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 01 2012 21:40 GMT
#2901
GMarshal you shot me in the face day 1 before :p
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 01 2012 21:55 GMT
#2902
gmarshal shoots a lot of people in the face if you know what i mean
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 01 2012 21:57 GMT
#2903
On August 02 2012 06:40 iGrok wrote:
GMarshal you shot me in the face day 1 before :p

It was day 2 and I was mafia. Not quite the same thing. :-P
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 01 2012 22:13 GMT
#2904
On August 02 2012 06:57 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:40 iGrok wrote:
GMarshal you shot me in the face day 1 before :p

It was day 2 and I was mafia. Not quite the same thing. :-P

Lol was it really? That game was a while ago... I thought it was Day 1 lol
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 01 2012 23:39 GMT
#2905
He also posted the whole thing in character. It was also a smurf so we don't really know if its him.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 01 2012 23:45 GMT
#2906
Lol. Yeah, I guesss to be accurate, you struck me down with your blade, you didn't shoot me.

And the fact that it wsa in character and I thought it was Kavdragon at the time for some reason - I just couldnt be mad!
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
August 03 2012 23:49 GMT
#2907
Zorkmid modkilled on his probation game in Mad Men. Discussion on how to deal with this can ensue after the game, but I think everyone will be in agreement of what it means.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
August 04 2012 01:01 GMT
#2908
Why was he modkilled? Inactivity or discipline?
Uff Da
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
August 04 2012 01:15 GMT
#2909
On August 04 2012 10:01 Qatol wrote:
Why was he modkilled? Inactivity or discipline?



ensured inactivity for the remainder of the game.
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 04 2012 01:16 GMT
#2910
Here's the whole PM string

+ Show Spoiler +
Directly asking for a replacement for activity reasons alone is never acceptable(barring reasons to make that activity low such as RL issues). It is also showing that you are not intending on playing the game based on that reason and instead going to "coast" along. Signing up to play in a game means you are going to give it a decent chunk of time and not doing so robs another player a chance to play.

You may have not directly said "i quit" but by asking to be replaced and stressing your activity would be borderline inactive I can't keep that kind of player in my game. Especially given your reasoning.


Original Message From Zorkmid:
I was as active as I possibly could have been in the XXII newbie game, and got called out left and right for lurking. There's no way I could handle a game twice that large.

All I was doing was warning you my activity level was going to be similar.

I never said anything about quitting.



Hide nested quote -
Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
make my day? Dude I vouched to let you back into TL mafia games and you pull this? Why did you even bother trying to come back if you weren't willing to change.

Original Message From Zorkmid:
Glad I could make your day.

Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
You are out of the game, no need to worry about it now or mafia games on TL for that matter.

Original Message From Zorkmid:
It's your game.

Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
Considering your specific case. I am going to need more than that -_-

Original Message From Zorkmid:
I'm not going to be able to be very active

Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
potentially yes but I need a decent reason if I am to use one.

Original Message From Zorkmid:
Do you have any replacements waiting?
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
August 04 2012 04:19 GMT
#2911


I'm not really sure what to make of that. I'll chip in that his activity and activity level in NMM XXII was appropriate for the game, and leave it at that.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 09:12:06
August 04 2012 08:45 GMT
#2912
If that's the only conversation you had with him, I don't see a problem. In fact, I applaud him for asking if there are replacements ready if he thinks his activity will not be up to standards of these forums. Many TL mafia veterans would just lurk away and not care about anyone else. Absolutely nothing wrong with replacing a player who doesn't have time to play, it is much better than barely coasting. Of course, he should have known whether he can be active enough, but it is understandable for him not to know what people expect.

It's pretty sad if you can get modkilled for that but you do not ever get modkilled for activity that is completely unacceptable.

I'm not taking into account special considerations, such as his past history.

e: zorkmid should have however been clearer about his reasons for asking for a replacement

e2: Also even if you think the person asking for a replacement deserves a warning/ban, you do not have to modkill him and thus also punish everyone else in the game. You had replacements ready.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 10:37:53
August 04 2012 10:37 GMT
#2913
yeah, I am uncomfortable with this. As ghost said he was just fine in XXII activity-level wise (it was more the content of his posts that got him lynched). If that was "another chance" then another chance sucked
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 04 2012 15:02 GMT
#2914
All I got out of that conversation is that Zorkmid is lonely.
Can someone explain this thing to me, because nothing makes sense?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 19:18:39
August 04 2012 17:20 GMT
#2915
edit : this issue will be discussed after relevant games have ended. I am against a Zorkmid ban.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 19:04:17
August 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#2916
Please stop discussing Zorkmid until the games are over (both XXII and Mad Men because they both might be relevant).
Uff Da
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 05 2012 23:43 GMT
#2917
Sorry this took so long, been a tad bit busy.

On July 16 2012 10:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Time for the TL Mafia LVI modkills.

Standard punishment for all of:

Layabout - Editing/Behaviour
mKmKmK - Failure to vote
adam4167 - Failure to vote
casualman - Failure to vote/Activity

EDIT: Changed my mind about warning.

Approved,

warning for editing and 3 week ban for behavior for layabout seems reasonable to me. Assuming no one objects vehemently that's what will go with, especially given some of his posts in Bureaucracy .

On August 01 2012 04:49 Protactinium wrote:
Bureaucracy mafia ended so we can discuss that stuff now.

Zealos 1 game ban. inactivity modkill, no debate.
GGQ. 1 game ban, inactivity modkill. Hopefully he'll use this as motivation to pick up the slack in the future.

Austinmcc/Rastaban. Warning or 1 game ban for trying to confirm roles via host pm's. Both were repentant and it doesn't appear to have been a devious exploitation of the rules, merely an easy to make oversight. They did perfectly fine otherwise. On the other hand Mig took a 1 game ban for it in PYP Interesting with the same circumstances and behavior just to dissuade others from doing it.

I know a lot of people were angry at RoL for fake nuking kurumi and going afk but I don't think that deserves anything, considering a) he might have believed kurumi was town or b) he thought Kurumi's nuke was fake too and simply was messing with him as well or c) believed it was real and was so unmotivated at getting nuked before he even got back and posted that he didn't want to bother.

On that subject, I'm considering a warning for Kurumi for griefing RoL (by nuking him to death 12 hours after the game starting, with RoL not having made a single post). I don't think it warrants a ban because outside of that Kurumi played fine and clearly cared about the game, but this felt really excessive and hard to support. I'd like to hear other's views on this.

Inactivity bans are approved.

I'm going to roll with bans for the whole role confirming fiasco, simply because its explicitly against the rules, and we've been a little too lenient in the past. I'll let them play in AEO Mafia before the ban goes through because I think at least one of them said they really wanted to play and were extremely polite about it.

I don't think a warning for kurumi or RoL is appropriate. Day vigis shoot day 1 all the time. Bad play isn't supposed to be punished by the hosts, but by the players. There are plenty of examples of day vigis shooting day 1 (BM got shot in the first hours of PYP:2 and thats not the only example), its sucky, but up to the town/players to fix the behavior and play better. RoL had the excuse of being nuked before he got a chance to really post, so I can't really justify punishment against him.

Anything I missed?

(Waiting for madmen to finish to address zorkmid)
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
August 06 2012 00:48 GMT
#2918
I will be sitting out Dwarf Fortress.
Fe fi fo fum.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 08:51:56
August 06 2012 08:36 GMT
#2919
How exactly do players punish for repeated and intentional bad play/playing against win con? RoL clearly didn't care at all and knowing that you are going to die is no excuse for his play (in fact, he didn't even know as the nuke could have been dud as well). He hasn't even bothered to apologize or explain why he did what he did.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 06 2012 14:33 GMT
#2920
Yea I don't get why getting killed is a valid excuse for throwing a tantrum.
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