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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 13 2012 16:00 GMT
#2861
I'm ok with you coming back on a couple conditions.

1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over.
2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 13 2012 17:04 GMT
#2862
On July 14 2012 01:00 iGrok wrote:
I'm ok with you coming back on a couple conditions.

1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over.
2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm.

Actually, it was your game (Sleeper Cell I) that took the brunt of the beating, I think it only tangentially touched one of mine, so your feeling on it matter quite a bit, as do those of the people directly involved (the DT [bumatlarge IIRC] your cohost (chaoser) etc.)

We gave BM a third chance, so I'd be ok with giving Zorkmid a second chance, assuming people can agree to it.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 13 2012 17:14 GMT
#2863
Hmm... guess I remember it differently.

Which, in of itself, signals to me that I'm ok with Zork coming back on Probation
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 13 2012 23:37 GMT
#2864
My game juat ended. I'll post the relevant modkills when I'm back in town ij a couple days
you gotta dance
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
July 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#2865
On July 14 2012 02:04 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 01:00 iGrok wrote:
I'm ok with you coming back on a couple conditions.

1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over.
2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm.

Actually, it was your game (Sleeper Cell I) that took the brunt of the beating, I think it only tangentially touched one of mine, so your feeling on it matter quite a bit, as do those of the people directly involved (the DT [bumatlarge IIRC] your cohost (chaoser) etc.)

We gave BM a third chance, so I'd be ok with giving Zorkmid a second chance, assuming people can agree to it.

We gave BM ~9 months after his most recent semi-permanent ban before we let him come back. This one is even longer. I don't see any reason why we can't let Zorkmid back on the understanding that he is on strict probation. However, I suggest the condition that he has to notify hosts of the next few games he plays in about this probation so they can watch his conduct closely.
Uff Da
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 15 2012 13:41 GMT
#2866
I think it would be good if you linked the post/posts linked to the case.
Nonetheless, since it was the first time and it was anger-related and time has passed I am okay with Zorkmid coming back.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
July 15 2012 18:43 GMT
#2867
On July 15 2012 22:41 Kurumi wrote:
I think it would be good if you linked the post/posts linked to the case.
Nonetheless, since it was the first time and it was anger-related and time has passed I am okay with Zorkmid coming back.

On May 01 2011 09:23 Qatol wrote:
Zorkmid
It looks like he is gone (he was green2). Does anyone have a problem with me putting him on the semi-permanent bans and just having a discussion about him if he decides to return for whatever reason? It sounds like what he did was pretty bad.

On May 06 2011 13:18 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so basically what happened is that Zorkmid rage quit from the game cause sandroba (who is mafia) tunneled/put a lot of pressure on him. He just said "/out" in the thread and didn't even PM me or iGrok. I PMed him and asked him if he wanted a replacement or what? And he's like yeah, and after a few exchanges he said TL Mafia wasn't for him

Show nested quote +
I don't mind aggression, it's blind stupid aggression. Get it constantly from Sandroba, not havin any fun.

yea im out

I'll stick to mafiascum.net


He then signed up for Node's XXXIX game a day after his rage quit and proclaimed leave for MS. When I, and a few other players, pointed out that it's kinda fucked up that he left one game and went to sign up for another he says he'll out and asked a TL admin to revoke his right to view the mafia forum and said he was 100% going to MS.

At this point bum had replaced Zorkmid in the Sleeper game and Zorkmid contacted bum and basically said/slipped that sandroba was mafia and tried to pressure bum to use his DT check on him that night when bum stated that he was going to check Jackal.

Zorkmid then signed up for Node's game AGAIN and posted in the Sleeper Cell Thread that bum wasn't the CL and hinted that Ace was lying and he was the Cell Leader.

At this point I PM-ed him to edit and stop posting in the game thread and his excuse was "I didn't know I couldn't say stuff after I left the game" even though if he had an ounce of common sense he should have known this, especially since he knew the roles.

I proceed to ask Hot_Bid to ban him to prevent him from ruining the game any further.

Show nested quote +
From bum:

And about sandroba... I sent igrok a message explaining everything but I tried to just ignore zorkmid's stuff. I had a red read on sandroba, but nothing strong. Zorkmid messaged me telling me to check him. I told him that was a decent check, but I was going for jackal. He then told me he had a conversation with sandroba, and leaked he was scum. I froze my thoughts on sandroba, but I felt it would be unfair to town if I didn't give them what I had mustered before zork's message.

Yeah, the guy is a d-bag, but hopefully I didn't royally fuck up anything.

On May 10 2011 00:11 Qatol wrote:
Zorkmid
Thanks to chaoser for summarizing what happened in Sleeper Cell. The only thing I would like to add is that he was warned to be on his best behavior for RoL's experiment game, but he still pulled this. Regardless, he's on the semi-permanent list for now, but if he wants to come back, he can post here and we can discuss what to do then.
Uff Da
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 15 2012 19:32 GMT
#2868
Alright, since no one is opposed, we'll let him back on super secret double probation
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 01:39:23
July 16 2012 01:36 GMT
#2869
Time for the TL Mafia LVI modkills.

Standard punishment for all of:

Layabout - Editing/Behaviour
mKmKmK - Failure to vote
adam4167 - Failure to vote
casualman - Failure to vote/Activity

EDIT: Changed my mind about warning.
you gotta dance
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
July 21 2012 18:18 GMT
#2870
I just noticed that it says that I got one game left when I actually don't
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 23 2012 21:41 GMT
#2871
I want to apologize to ver, incog, et all for my modkill in Bureaucracy Mafia. I'm disappointed in myself; I've always scoffed at people who managed to get themselves modkilled in the past and I feel like I've let both the hosts and the players down, especially since I've played with some of you in the past and count you as internet friends. I'm not sure why I still sign up for games, because even when I'm interested I can't muster up the motivation to try to win. Like in this game, I read all the posts from day1 and night1, but barely posted anything even though I knew I'd found at least one mafia (BH as now confirmed in the thread). I guess I'm better off just obsing games for a while. Good luck to both teams in Bureaucracy Mafia (but mostly town), and sorry again.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 23 2012 23:36 GMT
#2872
We still love you GGQ
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 15:55:47
July 30 2012 15:55 GMT
#2873
Sorry guys for messing up in Bureaucracy Mafia, and Austincc for you getting modkilled at my suggestion. I searched the OP for information about PMs, but didn't read up the full list to make sure it was valid, though in retrospect it should have been obvious to me, my bad

I am currently signed up for a game (AOE AOK Mafia)
and am co-hosting in Madmen

Neither is currently started though, I wasn't sure if they were affected as I don't see myself listed yet.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 30 2012 17:47 GMT
#2874
wait to talk about ongoing games until they complete.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
July 30 2012 17:56 GMT
#2875
On July 31 2012 02:47 iGrok wrote:
wait to talk about ongoing games until they complete.

Exactly. You won't be listed until after the game is over. Though you might want to /out AOE. Bans as a player don't affect hosting, so you are fine there.
Uff Da
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 30 2012 20:03 GMT
#2876
Wasn't sure where to post this.

The TL andriod app seems to crash on me whenever I try and open any TL Mafia thread. (it doesn't crash any other time.)

Any idea why this might be, does it happen to anyone else?
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
July 30 2012 20:44 GMT
#2877
Zorkmid the only thing I can think of that is different in the Mafia subforum is the fact that we have the filter button. No clue if that affects anything. (And next time use the "Miscellaneous/Multi-Purpose Mafia I" thread for this... Not the ban thread =))
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 30 2012 22:05 GMT
#2878
On July 31 2012 05:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Wasn't sure where to post this.

The TL andriod app seems to crash on me whenever I try and open any TL Mafia thread. (it doesn't crash any other time.)

Any idea why this might be, does it happen to anyone else?

Probably has something to do with the Polish Mafia Revolution :p
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
July 31 2012 19:49 GMT
#2879
Bureaucracy mafia ended so we can discuss that stuff now.

Zealos 1 game ban. inactivity modkill, no debate.
GGQ. 1 game ban, inactivity modkill. Hopefully he'll use this as motivation to pick up the slack in the future.

Austinmcc/Rastaban. Warning or 1 game ban for trying to confirm roles via host pm's. Both were repentant and it doesn't appear to have been a devious exploitation of the rules, merely an easy to make oversight. They did perfectly fine otherwise. On the other hand Mig took a 1 game ban for it in PYP Interesting with the same circumstances and behavior just to dissuade others from doing it.

I know a lot of people were angry at RoL for fake nuking kurumi and going afk but I don't think that deserves anything, considering a) he might have believed kurumi was town or b) he thought Kurumi's nuke was fake too and simply was messing with him as well or c) believed it was real and was so unmotivated at getting nuked before he even got back and posted that he didn't want to bother.

On that subject, I'm considering a warning for Kurumi for griefing RoL (by nuking him to death 12 hours after the game starting, with RoL not having made a single post). I don't think it warrants a ban because outside of that Kurumi played fine and clearly cared about the game, but this felt really excessive and hard to support. I'd like to hear other's views on this.
And so, we find the Sublime.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 31 2012 20:02 GMT
#2880
I don't think Kurumi warrants a ban or warning, tbh. VE got shot, what, 18 minutes into Aperture mafia? Matt shot deconduo 7 minutes into PYP: Redux. Both of those happened to end in mafia kills, but was either shooter punished?

I'm happy to accept a ban if needed. I knew in the back of my head that rule was in place, this wasn't a case of "Oh it wasn't in the actual OP, just the model OP, so I didn't know." Can understand why the rule needs to exist, and even though I think I would have been shown legit after a lynch or two, I don't think that the harmfulness of the conduct should be measured by the effect it has on the game in this case.
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