1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over.
2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm.
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
July 13 2012 16:00 GMT
#2861
1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over. 2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
July 13 2012 17:04 GMT
#2862
On July 14 2012 01:00 iGrok wrote: I'm ok with you coming back on a couple conditions. 1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over. 2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm. Actually, it was your game (Sleeper Cell I) that took the brunt of the beating, I think it only tangentially touched one of mine, so your feeling on it matter quite a bit, as do those of the people directly involved (the DT [bumatlarge IIRC] your cohost (chaoser) etc.) We gave BM a third chance, so I'd be ok with giving Zorkmid a second chance, assuming people can agree to it. | ||
iGrok
United States5142 Posts
July 13 2012 17:14 GMT
#2863
Which, in of itself, signals to me that I'm ok with Zork coming back on Probation | ||
Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
July 13 2012 23:37 GMT
#2864
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
July 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#2865
On July 14 2012 02:04 GMarshal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2012 01:00 iGrok wrote: I'm ok with you coming back on a couple conditions. 1) GMarshal is ok with it. His game was the one that got truly fucked over. 2) You're put on probation for a few months. Any warnings or bans result in you going back to Perm. Actually, it was your game (Sleeper Cell I) that took the brunt of the beating, I think it only tangentially touched one of mine, so your feeling on it matter quite a bit, as do those of the people directly involved (the DT [bumatlarge IIRC] your cohost (chaoser) etc.) We gave BM a third chance, so I'd be ok with giving Zorkmid a second chance, assuming people can agree to it. We gave BM ~9 months after his most recent semi-permanent ban before we let him come back. This one is even longer. I don't see any reason why we can't let Zorkmid back on the understanding that he is on strict probation. However, I suggest the condition that he has to notify hosts of the next few games he plays in about this probation so they can watch his conduct closely. | ||
Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
July 15 2012 13:41 GMT
#2866
Nonetheless, since it was the first time and it was anger-related and time has passed I am okay with Zorkmid coming back. | ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
July 15 2012 18:43 GMT
#2867
On July 15 2012 22:41 Kurumi wrote: I think it would be good if you linked the post/posts linked to the case. Nonetheless, since it was the first time and it was anger-related and time has passed I am okay with Zorkmid coming back. On May 01 2011 09:23 Qatol wrote: Zorkmid It looks like he is gone (he was green2). Does anyone have a problem with me putting him on the semi-permanent bans and just having a discussion about him if he decides to return for whatever reason? It sounds like what he did was pretty bad. On May 06 2011 13:18 chaoser wrote: Ok, so basically what happened is that Zorkmid rage quit from the game cause sandroba (who is mafia) tunneled/put a lot of pressure on him. He just said "/out" in the thread and didn't even PM me or iGrok. I PMed him and asked him if he wanted a replacement or what? And he's like yeah, and after a few exchanges he said TL Mafia wasn't for him Show nested quote + I don't mind aggression, it's blind stupid aggression. Get it constantly from Sandroba, not havin any fun. yea im out I'll stick to mafiascum.net He then signed up for Node's XXXIX game a day after his rage quit and proclaimed leave for MS. When I, and a few other players, pointed out that it's kinda fucked up that he left one game and went to sign up for another he says he'll out and asked a TL admin to revoke his right to view the mafia forum and said he was 100% going to MS. At this point bum had replaced Zorkmid in the Sleeper game and Zorkmid contacted bum and basically said/slipped that sandroba was mafia and tried to pressure bum to use his DT check on him that night when bum stated that he was going to check Jackal. Zorkmid then signed up for Node's game AGAIN and posted in the Sleeper Cell Thread that bum wasn't the CL and hinted that Ace was lying and he was the Cell Leader. At this point I PM-ed him to edit and stop posting in the game thread and his excuse was "I didn't know I couldn't say stuff after I left the game" even though if he had an ounce of common sense he should have known this, especially since he knew the roles. I proceed to ask Hot_Bid to ban him to prevent him from ruining the game any further. Show nested quote + From bum: And about sandroba... I sent igrok a message explaining everything but I tried to just ignore zorkmid's stuff. I had a red read on sandroba, but nothing strong. Zorkmid messaged me telling me to check him. I told him that was a decent check, but I was going for jackal. He then told me he had a conversation with sandroba, and leaked he was scum. I froze my thoughts on sandroba, but I felt it would be unfair to town if I didn't give them what I had mustered before zork's message. Yeah, the guy is a d-bag, but hopefully I didn't royally fuck up anything. On May 10 2011 00:11 Qatol wrote: Zorkmid Thanks to chaoser for summarizing what happened in Sleeper Cell. The only thing I would like to add is that he was warned to be on his best behavior for RoL's experiment game, but he still pulled this. Regardless, he's on the semi-permanent list for now, but if he wants to come back, he can post here and we can discuss what to do then. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
July 15 2012 19:32 GMT
#2868
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
July 16 2012 01:36 GMT
#2869
Standard punishment for all of: Layabout - Editing/Behaviour mKmKmK - Failure to vote adam4167 - Failure to vote casualman - Failure to vote/Activity EDIT: Changed my mind about warning. | ||
Erandorr
2283 Posts
July 21 2012 18:18 GMT
#2870
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
July 23 2012 21:41 GMT
#2871
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
July 23 2012 23:36 GMT
#2872
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
July 30 2012 15:55 GMT
#2873
![]() I am currently signed up for a game (AOE AOK Mafia) and am co-hosting in Madmen Neither is currently started though, I wasn't sure if they were affected as I don't see myself listed yet. | ||
iGrok
United States5142 Posts
July 30 2012 17:47 GMT
#2874
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
July 30 2012 17:56 GMT
#2875
On July 31 2012 02:47 iGrok wrote: wait to talk about ongoing games until they complete. Exactly. You won't be listed until after the game is over. Though you might want to /out AOE. Bans as a player don't affect hosting, so you are fine there. | ||
Zorkmid
4410 Posts
July 30 2012 20:03 GMT
#2876
The TL andriod app seems to crash on me whenever I try and open any TL Mafia thread. (it doesn't crash any other time.) Any idea why this might be, does it happen to anyone else? | ||
Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
July 30 2012 20:44 GMT
#2877
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
July 30 2012 22:05 GMT
#2878
On July 31 2012 05:03 Zorkmid wrote: Wasn't sure where to post this. The TL andriod app seems to crash on me whenever I try and open any TL Mafia thread. (it doesn't crash any other time.) Any idea why this might be, does it happen to anyone else? Probably has something to do with the Polish Mafia Revolution :p | ||
Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
July 31 2012 19:49 GMT
#2879
Zealos 1 game ban. inactivity modkill, no debate. GGQ. 1 game ban, inactivity modkill. Hopefully he'll use this as motivation to pick up the slack in the future. Austinmcc/Rastaban. Warning or 1 game ban for trying to confirm roles via host pm's. Both were repentant and it doesn't appear to have been a devious exploitation of the rules, merely an easy to make oversight. They did perfectly fine otherwise. On the other hand Mig took a 1 game ban for it in PYP Interesting with the same circumstances and behavior just to dissuade others from doing it. I know a lot of people were angry at RoL for fake nuking kurumi and going afk but I don't think that deserves anything, considering a) he might have believed kurumi was town or b) he thought Kurumi's nuke was fake too and simply was messing with him as well or c) believed it was real and was so unmotivated at getting nuked before he even got back and posted that he didn't want to bother. On that subject, I'm considering a warning for Kurumi for griefing RoL (by nuking him to death 12 hours after the game starting, with RoL not having made a single post). I don't think it warrants a ban because outside of that Kurumi played fine and clearly cared about the game, but this felt really excessive and hard to support. I'd like to hear other's views on this. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
July 31 2012 20:02 GMT
#2880
I'm happy to accept a ban if needed. I knew in the back of my head that rule was in place, this wasn't a case of "Oh it wasn't in the actual OP, just the model OP, so I didn't know." Can understand why the rule needs to exist, and even though I think I would have been shown legit after a lynch or two, I don't think that the harmfulness of the conduct should be measured by the effect it has on the game in this case. | ||
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