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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 27 2021 13:59 GMT
#41
I feel bad for him, he has big shoes to fill if he wants to replace Faker, but literally no one outside of the coaching staff understand why he is being subbed in, he just isn't winning them the important games. T1 is 1-4 vs the teams above them and 5-1 against those below, they are literally the benchmark for 'average' in LCK right now.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 27 2021 15:27 GMT
#42
Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
February 28 2021 06:15 GMT
#43
On February 28 2021 00:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game

surprisingly Showmaker was worse than Clozer in the game that DW lost
Faker is the GOAT!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 28 2021 15:35 GMT
#44
That's legitimately surprising. I think the over all point still stands. Showmaker is more likely to be better than Clozer in more games than he's likely to be better than Faker
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
February 28 2021 17:20 GMT
#45
On February 28 2021 15:15 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game

surprisingly Showmaker was worse than Clozer in the game that DW lost

nah even in game 2 clozer played poorly. oner and keria just went beast mode and put clozer in a spot where even with his inting he couldnt fall behind. he died twice completely due to his own poor play; once in mid against syndra/kayn and a teamfight where he tped behind and then just got sandwiched.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 20:03:28
February 28 2021 20:01 GMT
#46
On March 01 2021 02:20 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 15:15 AzAlexZ wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game

surprisingly Showmaker was worse than Clozer in the game that DW lost

nah even in game 2 clozer played poorly. oner and keria just went beast mode and put clozer in a spot where even with his inting he couldnt fall behind. he died twice completely due to his own poor play; once in mid against syndra/kayn and a teamfight where he tped behind and then just got sandwiched.

to be fair he tp'd thinking he would get help, but his teammates decided to ignore him and deal with Khan。
But yeah your points are true
Faker is the GOAT!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
March 01 2021 03:50 GMT
#47
i wish lck showed voice comms for the losing teams as well. it kinda sucks we only get to hear from the winning side because the losing sides comms are most likely going to be way more interesting.
im still baffled at clozers game 1 irelia herp moment but even more at his ryze plays. the final ryze ulti is probably top 5 worst pro plays in lck ever. i wish i could hear the comms for that from t1's side.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 01 2021 09:04 GMT
#48
The Ryze ults hurt even more because that's one of Faker's signature champs.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-04 13:42:38
March 04 2021 13:41 GMT
#49
This game 2 is filled with really baffling choices, why did T1 hand mountain soul over for a baron? Furthermore, why didn't BRO just let them? I guess they win the fight so they might as well contest but I feel like they could have either 4v5 contested them off baron with their lead while someone gets soul, or trade having soul the rest of the game for T1 having baron once.

And I don't know how Pyke got into this draft, but it shouldn't have. Really sad to see T1 in shambles
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 04 2021 13:47 GMT
#50
Thank god Faker didn't have to play today, T1 is actually doing him a favour.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 04 2021 13:50 GMT
#51
On March 04 2021 22:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
This game 2 is filled with really baffling choices, why did T1 hand mountain soul over for a baron? Furthermore, why didn't BRO just let them? I guess they win the fight so they might as well contest but I feel like they could have either 4v5 contested them off baron with their lead while someone gets soul, or trade having soul the rest of the game for T1 having baron once.

And I don't know how Pyke got into this draft, but it shouldn't have. Really sad to see T1 in shambles


Two galactic draft diffs (ESPECIALLY G1). I swear to god renek/nid is the most bait red side first-round pick in history. Then drafting Pyke second round in G2 after Seraphine...like what?

I haven't watched Brion that much but it seems as if they are a bit of a mini-DRX. Their Jungle/supp duo is defs the best part of the team.
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-04 13:57:00
March 04 2021 13:56 GMT
#52
On March 04 2021 22:50 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2021 22:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
This game 2 is filled with really baffling choices, why did T1 hand mountain soul over for a baron? Furthermore, why didn't BRO just let them? I guess they win the fight so they might as well contest but I feel like they could have either 4v5 contested them off baron with their lead while someone gets soul, or trade having soul the rest of the game for T1 having baron once.

And I don't know how Pyke got into this draft, but it shouldn't have. Really sad to see T1 in shambles


Two galactic draft diffs (ESPECIALLY G1). I swear to god renek/nid is the most bait red side first-round pick in history. Then drafting Pyke second round in G2 after Seraphine...like what?

I haven't watched Brion that much but it seems as if they are a bit of a mini-DRX. Their Jungle/supp duo is defs the best part of the team.

I haven't watched Brion either, but Delight did some really amazing small things. A lot of lanterns pulled people away from a Kai'sa engage, and when Guma went in solo at the first baron fight, he flayed and exhausted him almost immediately after/during the ult animation, so Guma couldn't just flash away after grabbing the kill. The difference in Thresh performance between the two series today was night and day.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
March 04 2021 15:18 GMT
#53
getting 2-0ed by brion is pretty pathetic though. even on paper not one of their lanes should be going even, let alone winning.
if t1 fails to even make playoffs this split then something needs to happen inside the org. ive said it before but for me with each passing day the culprit is clearly joe marsh. even with 2 worlds winning coaches hes managed to turn the greatest esports team in the history of esports into an extremely average team that focuses more on revenue and commercials than actual performances. thats a sad excuse for a ceo
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 04 2021 16:47 GMT
#54
I just want Faker to switch to a different team, or else we will never truly know if he is washed up. Instead we have him rotting on the bench, like wtf is this.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 04 2021 17:33 GMT
#55
He's a T1 part owner, he's not going anywhere
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-04 23:34:02
March 04 2021 23:32 GMT
#56
On March 05 2021 00:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
thats a sad excuse for a ceo

Unfortunately that sounds like exactly what most companies would want out of a CEO

EDIT: Oh, I had in my head that there was still a direct link to SKT but T1 is all-esports? So I guess there's an argument that yeah futureproofing would involve putting some focus on the actual, uhh, games.
The original Bogus fan.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
March 05 2021 05:04 GMT
#57
On March 05 2021 08:32 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2021 00:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
thats a sad excuse for a ceo

Unfortunately that sounds like exactly what most companies would want out of a CEO

EDIT: Oh, I had in my head that there was still a direct link to SKT but T1 is all-esports? So I guess there's an argument that yeah futureproofing would involve putting some focus on the actual, uhh, games.

yeah an esports team that doesnt bring results is unlikely to maintain its brand value in future, so joe marsh is failing at his job.
theres a trailer for some content on the official t1 faker channel. instead of wasting fakers time with commercials and filming for useless shit like that, why not give him actual time to practice and scrim? like holy fuck.
even worse that its not just faker they do this with, its their whole roster. let pros be pros and just do what they do, instead of trying to turn them into models and cash cows ffs
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 05 2021 09:26 GMT
#58
T1 is still most popular LoL team in KR, no? It will take a long time for their popularity to drop because they are so storied, but they are really trying their best to ruin the brand.

He's a T1 part owner, he's not going anywhere

I am pretty sure that somewhere in his contract is an exit clause. He is already minted for life, if he wants to he can sell his shares at a big loss and still be well off. T1 gave him part ownership because they are trying to keep him on a leash, if he leaves the org will collapse with their current performance. At the same time, not letting him play is a very good way to alienate your most iconic player and your fan base.

I just don't understand what T1 coaching staff is doing right now.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
March 05 2021 10:30 GMT
#59
On March 05 2021 18:26 DarkCore wrote:
T1 is still most popular LoL team in KR, no? It will take a long time for their popularity to drop because they are so storied, but they are really trying their best to ruin the brand.

Show nested quote +
He's a T1 part owner, he's not going anywhere

I am pretty sure that somewhere in his contract is an exit clause. He is already minted for life, if he wants to he can sell his shares at a big loss and still be well off. T1 gave him part ownership because they are trying to keep him on a leash, if he leaves the org will collapse with their current performance. At the same time, not letting him play is a very good way to alienate your most iconic player and your fan base.

I just don't understand what T1 coaching staff is doing right now.

yeah t1 is still the most popular although i dont think stats exist anywhere to support this. i will say though that t1's brand took a hit when the merger with comcast happened and they had to rebrand. a lot of old school skt t1 fans lost interest in the team after this and i would assume many of the current fans are faker fans rather than t1 fans. if faker retires the brand will take a huge hit, and if t1 continues to bench faker and make him a mascot instead of giving him a chance to clinch 1 more worlds (which is what faker fans want), t1 will continue to lose value.
commercially it just doesnt make sense to me, and the decision making behind this is definitely not the coaches. this is upper management. i dont think its possible that coaches of zefa and kim's caliber walk into t1 and completely forget how to manage a team. the players are obviously underperforming due to external factors and i would argue the emphasis on rotation and academy players is influenced by pressure of having to justify having that many players on the payroll to begin with.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-05 14:56:52
March 05 2021 14:49 GMT
#60
Is Faker going to military after this year? I've heard multiple people talk as though this was his last season.

I still hold out hope that come play offs they'll have one solid 5 MAYBE 6 man roster and run for the rest of the year. But they have to make play offs first. Looking at their schedule there's a good chance they get 1 maybe 2 more wins out of KT, Gen G, DRX, Afreeca, and Hanwa if shit doesn't come together. Afreeca and KT could still reasonable pass them and kick them out of playoffs. And that's embarrassing
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