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While I think that the T1 roster today has a lot of potential, I think it's time to bring back the more accomplished and proven roster of Canna-Cuzz-Faker-Teddy-Keria.
yeah ellim and gumayushi are too raw. gumayushi in particular seems to be playing with soloq mentality. i think in february zeus is also 100% going to replace canna. canna doesnt seem to be able to replicate last season's form
I mean, given how hyped Zeus is, even Canna in his prime might have been replaced. Guma/Teddy is a tough call, Teddy is very talented but Guma just seems to be so talented, and T1 needs that to overcome the likes of DWG or this new HLE lineup.
if canna was playing like last season i dont think theyd replace him simply because the experience of having played a full season would be more valuable. at the moment i dont think the experience card is going to cut it for him though. as for teddy/guma, apparently teddys performances just dont cut it in scrims so well have to see. from a coaching perspective though, would you rather play a bot-side game with a winning lane that cant be counted on to carry? or play a top side game knowing your bot lane is just gonna go even at best but you trust your macro/teamfighting (typical t1 style). at least with the latter option you know what youre going to get, but with the former option its hit or miss and a coaching nightmare because you cant coach someone to not int. thats down to the player
On January 25 2021 01:06 DarkCore wrote: I mean, given how hyped Zeus is, even Canna in his prime might have been replaced. Guma/Teddy is a tough call, Teddy is very talented but Guma just seems to be so talented, and T1 needs that to overcome the likes of DWG or this new HLE lineup.
Honestly I really don't believe in this HLE roster, obviously Chovy and Deft are both extremely good (especially Chovy) but I just don't think the rest of the team is good enough for them to be a consistent top team, I expect them to place below GENG T1 DWG and maybe even KT. That said I agree the I think Guma is more what T1 needs rather than Teddy
yeah t1 is an absolute shitshow atm. if t1 wasnt gonna sub clozer they should have subbed canna for faker. the next roster better be zeus cuzz/ellim faker teddy keria
You are thinking too modestly: I'm wishing that Faker gets bought out by some LPL team and sees some playtime. He's been rotting away in this failed T1 organization for quite some time now, despite never really having slumped. Even if he's not the best in the world, he is still world class and I want to see him on a team befitting of his legacy. Instead, T1 benches him for this B team.
On January 31 2021 18:51 DarkCore wrote: You are thinking too modestly: I'm wishing that Faker gets bought out by some LPL team and sees some playtime. He's been rotting away in this failed T1 organization for quite some time now, despite never really having slumped. Even if he's not the best in the world, he is still world class and I want to see him on a team befitting of his legacy. Instead, T1 benches him for this B team.
agreed this T1 is a disgrace to the SKT of old. I have always supported T1 and Faker, I will still watch their games even if they don't play Faker. I still believe because it is T1 but honestly. I hope they continue to play the roster today and get curbstomped. Maybe one day the coaching staff will figure it out.
On January 31 2021 18:51 DarkCore wrote: You are thinking too modestly: I'm wishing that Faker gets bought out by some LPL team and sees some playtime. He's been rotting away in this failed T1 organization for quite some time now, despite never really having slumped. Even if he's not the best in the world, he is still world class and I want to see him on a team befitting of his legacy. Instead, T1 benches him for this B team.
well mr shareholder isnt gonna go china lol. anyways i can understand that faker doesnt dominate the laning phase like he used to and the lack of priority is an issue, but so far clozer hasnt shown he dominates the laning phase either yet hes far worse in the mid to late game if he isnt already stomping. no excuse for the next round now i think
t1 much more solid today. game 1 was pretty much perfect. zeus showed his class on his debut pretty well and faker seems way more solid than clozer to me
On February 03 2021 20:00 evilfatsh1t wrote: t1 much more solid today. game 1 was pretty much perfect. zeus showed his class on his debut pretty well and faker seems way more solid than clozer to me
Having Faker instead of Clozer is like night and day for this team imo. Gumi vs Teddy is still debatable, and Zeus needs more games, but the Zeus/Ellim/Faker/Gumi/Keria lineup seems pretty solid.
deokdam is really good, I should watch more NS games.
On February 03 2021 20:00 evilfatsh1t wrote: t1 much more solid today. game 1 was pretty much perfect. zeus showed his class on his debut pretty well and faker seems way more solid than clozer to me
Having Faker instead of Clozer is like night and day for this team imo. Gumi vs Teddy is still debatable, and Zeus needs more games, but the Zeus/Ellim/Faker/Gumi/Keria lineup seems pretty solid.
deokdam is really good, I should watch more NS games.
So many teams in LCK have really good cores and then relatively new players who need time to grow. If a few of those players step up, the top half of LCK will get interesting. RN it's a bunch of incomplete teams competing against eachother.
DWG and GenG have almost the same lineup as last year, but there are a lot of new faces, agreed. I can see T1 beating AF and KT if their new roster gels, but imo the top 4 are tough nuts to crack, Faker isn't going to outcarry the likes of Chovy/ShowMaker and T1 kind of relies on him.
1. DK: Great synergy, great players. Khan was not a downgrade, so this team is still world class. 2. HLE: When they play their best they look better than DK, like today game 1. Deft seems to be in better form than end of last year (has his health improved?) Chovy is imo best midlaner in LCK, and the rookies are having a better start than the DRX rookies last year. 3. GenG: What's there to say, it's GenG and they haven't really changed much since last year. They are good, but I don't see them improving drastically. 4. DRX, KT and maaaaaybe T1: Middle of the pack teams with some flaws. 5. AF: T1 probably belongs on this bottom-middle tier as well, flaws are sometimes glaring here. 6. NS: They are not a bottom team because Deokdam is surprisingly good, he's giving me JAG Teddy vibes. 7. BRO and LSB: I don't really watch these teams, but NS has beaten both so I guess there is a difference?
I'd definitely rate DRX higher than T1 at this moment. For the rest I would probably agree completely.
BRO seem really out of sync. I've seen multiple failed engages, where someone goes in from a flank while the rest of the team is bravely running away. Still, you can see what they're trying to achieve at times.
Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. But the pattern was similar to every 2-1 DK series this split: opponent manages to beat DK convincingly in game 1, then they wake up and play seriously. They are so creative too, it's like they want to compete with G2 on disrespecting their regions.
another roster change for t1 oner clozer teddy i think its safe to assume t1 has decided to use this split as testing for the next split. you cant expect to get good results when you change your players so often
On February 21 2021 23:51 chipmonklord17 wrote: I don't know if I'd read too much in what roster they play the worst team in the league with tbh
Well, they need to find a jungler and fast. Ellim gets styled on every other game and unlike Dread (another jungler who has a habit of solo-losing his team the game), doesn't have the 1 in 3 games where he 1v9s the game either.
Speaking of Dread, that Afreeca vs DRX game was also a good one. Afreeca taking away Pyosik's Kindred in a giga-brain draft that the T1 coaching staff could only dream of. Pyosik and Kingen are a treat to watch. Probably the second-best top side after Khan/Canyon.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Oner again vs RedForce next week, but I would wait until their Damwon roster to really make a judgement. Unless that's what's happening right now, getting Oner prepared for stage vs Sandbox/RedForce so he's less nervous vs Damwon
yeah clozer isnt ready to be starting over faker. hes been the weakest link over the last few rounds but today really highlighted his soloq mentality for me.
I feel bad for him, he has big shoes to fill if he wants to replace Faker, but literally no one outside of the coaching staff understand why he is being subbed in, he just isn't winning them the important games. T1 is 1-4 vs the teams above them and 5-1 against those below, they are literally the benchmark for 'average' in LCK right now.
Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game
On February 28 2021 00:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game
surprisingly Showmaker was worse than Clozer in the game that DW lost
That's legitimately surprising. I think the over all point still stands. Showmaker is more likely to be better than Clozer in more games than he's likely to be better than Faker
On February 28 2021 00:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game
surprisingly Showmaker was worse than Clozer in the game that DW lost
nah even in game 2 clozer played poorly. oner and keria just went beast mode and put clozer in a spot where even with his inting he couldnt fall behind. he died twice completely due to his own poor play; once in mid against syndra/kayn and a teamfight where he tped behind and then just got sandwiched.
On February 28 2021 00:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: Yeah I didn't catch the games but I was stunned they didn't put Faker in at the very least versus Damwon of all teams. Showmaker MAY be better than Faker in most games, but he's DEFINITELY better than Clozer in every game
surprisingly Showmaker was worse than Clozer in the game that DW lost
nah even in game 2 clozer played poorly. oner and keria just went beast mode and put clozer in a spot where even with his inting he couldnt fall behind. he died twice completely due to his own poor play; once in mid against syndra/kayn and a teamfight where he tped behind and then just got sandwiched.
to be fair he tp'd thinking he would get help, but his teammates decided to ignore him and deal with Khan。 But yeah your points are true
i wish lck showed voice comms for the losing teams as well. it kinda sucks we only get to hear from the winning side because the losing sides comms are most likely going to be way more interesting. im still baffled at clozers game 1 irelia herp moment but even more at his ryze plays. the final ryze ulti is probably top 5 worst pro plays in lck ever. i wish i could hear the comms for that from t1's side.
This game 2 is filled with really baffling choices, why did T1 hand mountain soul over for a baron? Furthermore, why didn't BRO just let them? I guess they win the fight so they might as well contest but I feel like they could have either 4v5 contested them off baron with their lead while someone gets soul, or trade having soul the rest of the game for T1 having baron once.
And I don't know how Pyke got into this draft, but it shouldn't have. Really sad to see T1 in shambles
On March 04 2021 22:41 chipmonklord17 wrote: This game 2 is filled with really baffling choices, why did T1 hand mountain soul over for a baron? Furthermore, why didn't BRO just let them? I guess they win the fight so they might as well contest but I feel like they could have either 4v5 contested them off baron with their lead while someone gets soul, or trade having soul the rest of the game for T1 having baron once.
And I don't know how Pyke got into this draft, but it shouldn't have. Really sad to see T1 in shambles
Two galactic draft diffs (ESPECIALLY G1). I swear to god renek/nid is the most bait red side first-round pick in history. Then drafting Pyke second round in G2 after Seraphine...like what?
I haven't watched Brion that much but it seems as if they are a bit of a mini-DRX. Their Jungle/supp duo is defs the best part of the team.
On March 04 2021 22:41 chipmonklord17 wrote: This game 2 is filled with really baffling choices, why did T1 hand mountain soul over for a baron? Furthermore, why didn't BRO just let them? I guess they win the fight so they might as well contest but I feel like they could have either 4v5 contested them off baron with their lead while someone gets soul, or trade having soul the rest of the game for T1 having baron once.
And I don't know how Pyke got into this draft, but it shouldn't have. Really sad to see T1 in shambles
Two galactic draft diffs (ESPECIALLY G1). I swear to god renek/nid is the most bait red side first-round pick in history. Then drafting Pyke second round in G2 after Seraphine...like what?
I haven't watched Brion that much but it seems as if they are a bit of a mini-DRX. Their Jungle/supp duo is defs the best part of the team.
I haven't watched Brion either, but Delight did some really amazing small things. A lot of lanterns pulled people away from a Kai'sa engage, and when Guma went in solo at the first baron fight, he flayed and exhausted him almost immediately after/during the ult animation, so Guma couldn't just flash away after grabbing the kill. The difference in Thresh performance between the two series today was night and day.
getting 2-0ed by brion is pretty pathetic though. even on paper not one of their lanes should be going even, let alone winning. if t1 fails to even make playoffs this split then something needs to happen inside the org. ive said it before but for me with each passing day the culprit is clearly joe marsh. even with 2 worlds winning coaches hes managed to turn the greatest esports team in the history of esports into an extremely average team that focuses more on revenue and commercials than actual performances. thats a sad excuse for a ceo
I just want Faker to switch to a different team, or else we will never truly know if he is washed up. Instead we have him rotting on the bench, like wtf is this.
On March 05 2021 00:18 evilfatsh1t wrote: thats a sad excuse for a ceo
Unfortunately that sounds like exactly what most companies would want out of a CEO
EDIT: Oh, I had in my head that there was still a direct link to SKT but T1 is all-esports? So I guess there's an argument that yeah futureproofing would involve putting some focus on the actual, uhh, games.
On March 05 2021 00:18 evilfatsh1t wrote: thats a sad excuse for a ceo
Unfortunately that sounds like exactly what most companies would want out of a CEO
EDIT: Oh, I had in my head that there was still a direct link to SKT but T1 is all-esports? So I guess there's an argument that yeah futureproofing would involve putting some focus on the actual, uhh, games.
yeah an esports team that doesnt bring results is unlikely to maintain its brand value in future, so joe marsh is failing at his job. theres a trailer for some content on the official t1 faker channel. instead of wasting fakers time with commercials and filming for useless shit like that, why not give him actual time to practice and scrim? like holy fuck. even worse that its not just faker they do this with, its their whole roster. let pros be pros and just do what they do, instead of trying to turn them into models and cash cows ffs
T1 is still most popular LoL team in KR, no? It will take a long time for their popularity to drop because they are so storied, but they are really trying their best to ruin the brand.
He's a T1 part owner, he's not going anywhere
I am pretty sure that somewhere in his contract is an exit clause. He is already minted for life, if he wants to he can sell his shares at a big loss and still be well off. T1 gave him part ownership because they are trying to keep him on a leash, if he leaves the org will collapse with their current performance. At the same time, not letting him play is a very good way to alienate your most iconic player and your fan base.
I just don't understand what T1 coaching staff is doing right now.
On March 05 2021 18:26 DarkCore wrote: T1 is still most popular LoL team in KR, no? It will take a long time for their popularity to drop because they are so storied, but they are really trying their best to ruin the brand.
I am pretty sure that somewhere in his contract is an exit clause. He is already minted for life, if he wants to he can sell his shares at a big loss and still be well off. T1 gave him part ownership because they are trying to keep him on a leash, if he leaves the org will collapse with their current performance. At the same time, not letting him play is a very good way to alienate your most iconic player and your fan base.
I just don't understand what T1 coaching staff is doing right now.
yeah t1 is still the most popular although i dont think stats exist anywhere to support this. i will say though that t1's brand took a hit when the merger with comcast happened and they had to rebrand. a lot of old school skt t1 fans lost interest in the team after this and i would assume many of the current fans are faker fans rather than t1 fans. if faker retires the brand will take a huge hit, and if t1 continues to bench faker and make him a mascot instead of giving him a chance to clinch 1 more worlds (which is what faker fans want), t1 will continue to lose value. commercially it just doesnt make sense to me, and the decision making behind this is definitely not the coaches. this is upper management. i dont think its possible that coaches of zefa and kim's caliber walk into t1 and completely forget how to manage a team. the players are obviously underperforming due to external factors and i would argue the emphasis on rotation and academy players is influenced by pressure of having to justify having that many players on the payroll to begin with.
Is Faker going to military after this year? I've heard multiple people talk as though this was his last season.
I still hold out hope that come play offs they'll have one solid 5 MAYBE 6 man roster and run for the rest of the year. But they have to make play offs first. Looking at their schedule there's a good chance they get 1 maybe 2 more wins out of KT, Gen G, DRX, Afreeca, and Hanwa if shit doesn't come together. Afreeca and KT could still reasonable pass them and kick them out of playoffs. And that's embarrassing
i think this was the first time the actual first team played for t1 this season? that sounds crazy but looking at this 2-0 and seeing how solid they are, its even more crazy that we've only just seen this roster now. pls stop making changes and stick to this
Now GenG has to worry about their second seed: if they lose to DK (likely) and DRX, they have to hope HLE doesn't win 3 of their 4 next series (which is not unlikely, only T1 seems like a decent threat).
Poor Deft, this season he probably had high hopes to be at least the 2nd best team in LCK. Instead they end the regular split 3rd, and get demolished by T1 and GenG in their last series, so are 4th in terms of current performance.
man wtf was with t1's drafts? got outdrafted hard 3 games straight. all the players were out of form also but i would say having a shit comp 3 games in a row was a big factor in that.
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