EPTDWG had some really good team fighting, more than once I didn't understand how they made a bad situation look so lopsided in their favour.
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
DWG had some really good team fighting, more than once I didn't understand how they made a bad situation look so lopsided in their favour. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
It makes sense though that high level games are stompy; riot hard buffed snowballing and then buffed shutdown. If you don't give up shutdowns, then you just have hard snowballs. | ||
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Uldridge
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On October 03 2020 20:39 DarkCore wrote: Hmm, another stomp. DWG look really good, but imo the big factor was they won PB pretty hard. They banned Graves and grabbed Nidalee, the S tier junglers (Lillia is only A tier), and Showmaker got his TF. Yagao didn't get one of his comfort picks. JDG botched that invade really hard (good decision by Nuguri), and then Nidalee just does her thing. A bad TP by Zoom also ruined the lane for him. DWG had some really good team fighting, more than once I didn't understand how they made a bad situation look so lopsided in their favour. Nah, I don't think JDG had a worse P/B here. I think it's really the snowball getting out of control. JDG had some really good engages off of Lilia / Nautilus, and they were able to get kills on key members like Nidalee and Jhin even later into the game while being down a lot. I think they just got outplayed due to lvl 1 + 4:30 bot lane fight forcing out the Zoom TP, | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On October 03 2020 20:39 DarkCore wrote: Hmm, another stomp. DWG look really good, but imo the big factor was they won PB pretty hard. They banned Graves and grabbed Nidalee, the S tier junglers (Lillia is only A tier), and Showmaker got his TF. Yagao didn't get one of his comfort picks. JDG botched that invade really hard (good decision by Nuguri), and then Nidalee just does her thing. A bad TP by Zoom also ruined the lane for him. DWG had some really good team fighting, more than once I didn't understand how they made a bad situation look so lopsided in their favour. And I still hate top lane Volibear, I swear it never looks good | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4779 Posts
Granted, Finn is a liability, but he can turn up in a pivotal game imo. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
But in general, I think Volibear is just kind of a B tier champ after the nerfs. Thing is he's mostly picked because of a good lane vs Camille and a more early game power curve than say Renekton. Other choices would be like Shen which is perma banned, Maokai which I think has been under prioritized at world's, or Malphite which is a bit reliant on enemy being physical heavy. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On October 03 2020 20:58 iCanada wrote: I think a large part of top Voli looking bad is a lot of pros just flat build him wrong. Trinity force is kind of bad on him, honestly... His kit scales so well off of HP and CDR.. but lots of Pros build like Trinity into Deadmans on him, it's just a bad build. You deal less damage and are less tanky then if you build say Cleaver + IBG. But in general, I think Volibear is just kind of a B tier champ after the nerfs. Thing is he's mostly picked because of a good lane vs Camille and a more early game power curve than say Renekton. Other choices would be like Shen which is perma banned, Maokai which I think has been under prioritized at world's, or Malphite which is a bit reliant on enemy being physical heavy. yeah he goes even/slightly ahead vs Camille and then hard loses the rest of the game, I just think its not worth picking ever but what do I know lol | ||
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Uldridge
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iCanada
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On October 03 2020 21:05 starkiller123 wrote: yeah he goes even/slightly ahead vs Camille and then hard loses the rest of the game, I just think its not worth picking ever but what do I know lol Yeah, Voli is a safe lane pick, but not a safe scaling pick. Once Camille gets ahead, he becomes a liability because she runs over him in the side lane and team fights. I think he's OK when he plays vs Renekton, It might be possible RGE contests JDG, no? Finn is going to be destroyed by Zoom, I wouldn't be surprised if they straight up win via top gap. I'm optimistic after seeing how RGE played, they seem super hungry and full try hard mode, but JDG has few flaws they can exploit. Why is it unsurprising that LGD vs GenG is the closest game so far, lol. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4779 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9198 Posts
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iCanada
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On October 03 2020 22:12 Sent. wrote: Wait is Catilyn a pick/ban champion? Why did Fnatic ban her? Definitely a little confusing, especially with how mediocre TSM looked when they picked Cait in playoffs | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Also, I think with the last pick Sivir the Cait ban starts to make sense. Kind of a Rekkles classic, but that's kinda troll vs Cait. | ||
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