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On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him.
he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so.
but yes his first 2 games were pretty good.
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On January 25 2016 16:11 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him. he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so. but yes his first 2 games were pretty good.
to be fair he was stuck rotating around and didn't hit 6 until 17:30, so it's not completely his fault. for a good chunk of that time he was less useful than a siege minion.
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On January 25 2016 16:22 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 16:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him. he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so. but yes his first 2 games were pretty good. to be fair he was stuck rotating around and didn't hit 6 until 17:30, so it's not completely his fault. for a good chunk of that time he was less useful than a siege minion.
i mean if the rotations were good and he were being useful with them sure
but half of them he just gave up a free kill in areas with no vision doing who knows what
I think the kid has a lot of talent and his first 2 games were great but today was really bad until the last few teamfights.
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On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he?
Actually I thought it was a pretty slick play tbh. He didn't "fail a combo". From what it looked like it was E to minion for gap close => flash => Q. And it actually almost caught both. And it certainly DID catch one who was only walking. LoD was barely out of range for that. In fact didn't it lead to a kill anyway?
If anything I thought the gif made it pretty obvious that the idea was pretty smart.
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On January 25 2016 17:11 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 16:22 ticklishmusic wrote:On January 25 2016 16:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him. he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so. but yes his first 2 games were pretty good. to be fair he was stuck rotating around and didn't hit 6 until 17:30, so it's not completely his fault. for a good chunk of that time he was less useful than a siege minion. i mean if the rotations were good and he were being useful with them sure but half of them he just gave up a free kill in areas with no vision doing who knows what I think the kid has a lot of talent and his first 2 games were great but today was really bad until the last few teamfights.
I think you can forgive the rookie playing in his 1st 3 games of professional play for having some bad games. I am not going to shit on TL unless its end of season and they show 0 improvement again. Its week 2 and they just promoted in 2 rookies.
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On January 25 2016 18:36 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 17:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 16:22 ticklishmusic wrote:On January 25 2016 16:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him. he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so. but yes his first 2 games were pretty good. to be fair he was stuck rotating around and didn't hit 6 until 17:30, so it's not completely his fault. for a good chunk of that time he was less useful than a siege minion. i mean if the rotations were good and he were being useful with them sure but half of them he just gave up a free kill in areas with no vision doing who knows what I think the kid has a lot of talent and his first 2 games were great but today was really bad until the last few teamfights. I think you can forgive the rookie playing in his 1st 3 games of professional play for having some bad games. I am not going to shit on TL unless its end of season and they show 0 improvement again. Its week 2 and they just promoted in 2 rookies.
of course we can forgive him, I don't see where anywhere in my post where I am attacking him or saying he's forever a shitter? I just stated a fact that he played a bad game that's all there is to it.
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On January 25 2016 18:42 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 18:36 Slaughter wrote:On January 25 2016 17:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 16:22 ticklishmusic wrote:On January 25 2016 16:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him. he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so. but yes his first 2 games were pretty good. to be fair he was stuck rotating around and didn't hit 6 until 17:30, so it's not completely his fault. for a good chunk of that time he was less useful than a siege minion. i mean if the rotations were good and he were being useful with them sure but half of them he just gave up a free kill in areas with no vision doing who knows what I think the kid has a lot of talent and his first 2 games were great but today was really bad until the last few teamfights. I think you can forgive the rookie playing in his 1st 3 games of professional play for having some bad games. I am not going to shit on TL unless its end of season and they show 0 improvement again. Its week 2 and they just promoted in 2 rookies. of course we can forgive him, I don't see where anywhere in my post where I am attacking him or saying he's forever a shitter? I just stated a fact that he played a bad game that's all there is to it.
Wasn't directed at you, more a general comment for people to keep in mind about this team since people are pretty harsh on them as if they were the exact same team/staff. Then you could say "same ole TL" but now everything is changed except 2 players from last season so they should be given some time (especially with 2 fresh faced rookies).
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On January 25 2016 17:11 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 16:22 ticklishmusic wrote:On January 25 2016 16:11 dsyxelic wrote:On January 25 2016 12:13 Zato-1 wrote:On January 25 2016 11:51 asymptotech wrote: Guess I don't understand what's so bad about the first gif. Dude tries to make a play and missed by a small margin. How dare he? Missing Ali combo happens sometimes, missing a pulverize after flashing for it against a target who was just walking away is pretty bad. On January 25 2016 10:18 Caiada wrote: Can we just relegate everyone involved in the last two games besides Keith and Piglet. Playoffs this NA season are more painfully obvious than ever before. Haven't watched those games yet, but Matt's played well overall in the two games I have seen of him. he played pretty bad today, especially the first 20 minutes or so. but yes his first 2 games were pretty good. to be fair he was stuck rotating around and didn't hit 6 until 17:30, so it's not completely his fault. for a good chunk of that time he was less useful than a siege minion. i mean if the rotations were good and he were being useful with them sure but half of them he just gave up a free kill in areas with no vision doing who knows what I think the kid has a lot of talent and his first 2 games were great but today was really bad until the last few teamfights.
I think it was a real teamwide struggle there, he was trying to ward and make plays but there was no # synergy for TL. He was taking a chance and trying to push the ward lines further out without vision and got killed for it.
We can TL has some grit, whatever that means. That was some season 2 Ziggs or Anivia right there
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Man talking about alistar, its such a strong support in competitive. Probably best teamfighting support.
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On January 25 2016 10:16 bbc23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2016 10:14 GolemMadness wrote: Shen is kind of just a garbage pick right now. He's terrible in team fights so you want him to split with his ult, but he's also bad at splitting. So many better picks up, but you give up GP and pick Shen? Why? The only teams that play Shen are teams whose tops are trash mechanically (Lourlo, RF, Balls) to try and mask the weakness Btw Gate Flame Horizoned RF he's such garbage, expect Flaresz to replace him soontm
I don't really agree with that, or at least I don't think Lourlo has trash mechanics. Shen is just popular because he's a potato champ that works well in teams that prioritize their mid/ADC, which TL (for better or for worse), C9 and REN are. He brings a lot more protection to the table (also why he's been a big pick for Odoamne, more protection for Forg1ven), if you really wanted a no-mechanics tank, people would play Mundo or something.
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Lourlo has fine mechanics, probably better than average in the LCS. He's just probably not 100% comfortable on Shen (and let's be real, Shen is not the kind of champ he'd main and IDK how many games Lourlo's played with him-- I think Lourlo was a Nid main for a long time). I'm a little worried that Liquid's need for a tank will result in him not realizing his potential as carry toplaner... though if Matt can keep getting Ali who is the best tank from the support position maybe Lourlo will get to play some Fiora or something.
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On January 26 2016 01:22 ticklishmusic wrote: Lourlo has fine mechanics, probably better than average in the LCS. He's just probably not 100% comfortable on Shen (and let's be real, Shen is not the kind of champ he'd main and IDK how many games Lourlo's played with him-- I think Lourlo was a Nid main for a long time). I'm a little worried that Liquid's need for a tank will result in him not realizing his potential as carry toplaner... though if Matt can keep getting Ali who is the best tank from the support position maybe Lourlo will get to play some Fiora or something.
Which is also the deep rooted problem of NA top laners that we don't like to talk about. The only ones that get scouted play carry champions and then play tanks in LCS and we wonder why NA top laners are all dumpster trash.
RF legendary is the newest one
Hm plays riven all day, he must be really good at mundo and other tanks.
Just kidding that makes no sense, another bad NA top laner
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just watched last night's games, Piglet literally in elo hell^^.
But why was Froggen not playing despite being there? I guess Echo Fox let him play on tourist visa or something?
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On January 26 2016 03:11 AsnSensation wrote: just watched last night's games, Piglet literally in elo hell^^.
But why was Froggen not playing despite being there? I guess Echo Fox let him play on tourist visa or something?
Looks like most of the EU guys have visa issues.
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These MvP rewards are getting more and more fraudulent. Ok I can understand why you don't want to four stack and just say "four Immortal MvP's" but then at the very least you could've said Piglet was MvP ADC considering he literally is 1v9 every game. Jensen getting mid MvP is just completely mindboggling because I don't even think Riot themselves believed what they were saying there when they gave him the MvP.
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On January 26 2016 05:43 KissBlade wrote: These MvP rewards are getting more and more fraudulent. Ok I can understand why you don't want to four stack and just say "four Immortal MvP's" but then at the very least you could've said Piglet was MvP ADC considering he literally is 1v9 every game. Jensen getting mid MvP is just completely mindboggling because I don't even think Riot themselves believed what they were saying there when they gave him the MvP. Gate should have gotten MVP, winning in two roles what a god
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IDK if Immortals even played that insanely well this week to be fair, TSM would have won a game if not for #NALCS and #FreeSM
Gate, Piglet, probably Hai because he turns C9 from a soloQ team to LCS team, IDK mid and jungle.
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Btw betting sites now consider TIP to be the favorite vs Liquid. Pretty funny.
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On January 26 2016 06:43 Redox wrote: Btw betting sites now consider TIP to be the favorite vs Liquid. Pretty funny.
If only I had money to spend I'd throw down on Liquid
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