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United States23745 Posts
On October 03 2015 00:17 MaestroSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
Need Crumbz on the desk again so he could rip TSM a new one. meh I think Crumbz is by far the worst "analyst" they have ever had on the desk.. I feel like he is never right in any of his breakdowns... but everyone feels like he has next level knowledge because he got lucky with picks last worlds for a couple games on who would win
I just meant he didn't hold back when he called out CLG for playing like shit even though they won.
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On October 03 2015 00:28 Ansibled wrote:
Why do people talk about APM in League?
i bet faker has the highest apm
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On October 03 2015 00:27 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:25 MaestroSC wrote:On October 03 2015 00:21 Inflicted wrote:
I wouldn't agree with Azir blindpick but for TSM's playstyle, maybe. It shuts down the first pick of KT Rolster though, and its the ONLY champ that TSM has been able to rally behind since the regular season. How many games have they won without Azir over the past couple months? Even if they first pick it...what does KT pick to hardcounter it? Also, you have a battle fo 2 teams that like to play slow drawn out matches...in which case you want Azir, the long term scaling AP mid... not LB the assassin who relies on getting ahead early to be a threat. TBF Bjergsen did get ahead. Too bad every other lane is losing and they can dedicate resources to protect Nagne.
Getting ahead with a LB vs Azir.. does not matter in the slightest.
If I was KT rolster... as soon as Bjerg locked in LB im like "Free win inc".
Azir vs LB sucks for 20 mins, but is 10x stronger in teamfights after that... in a match where you KNEW it was going to be 2 teams playing safe for 25+ mins.
He was ahead enough to get a single kill..but he wasn't ahead enough to provide even 1/10 of what Azir could in a teamfight.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Aite hopefully enough time to make some food before P&B
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On October 03 2015 00:28 Ansibled wrote:
Why do people talk about APM in League?
Doa used to be a SC2 caster, so it used to be important to him 
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Also this is about to bear vs salmon levels of one sided right?
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Australia18228 Posts
On October 03 2015 00:27 MaestroSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:24 Caiada wrote:
The apprehension towards blind picking mids (not certain mids, literally any mid) is maybe the most baffling thing about drafting right now.
Also Weiless getting exposed? Have you ever followed this game? Same... What counters Azir?... Nothing that I can think of... however it would have 100% shutdown Darius in teamfights... If you can counter a team's priority pick..you should. They are clearly saying "MAN! Our top player is so good! He is going to carry us with a first pick, with bans focused on keeping him ahead!" You counter pick it, and now their plan is very meh.
Ahri, Syndra, Zed, maybe Veigar
Elise & Braum already does a good job of stopping Darius
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
well APM doesnt matter that much in SC2 either except for w few exceptions.
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On October 03 2015 00:29 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:17 MaestroSC wrote:On October 03 2015 00:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
Need Crumbz on the desk again so he could rip TSM a new one. meh I think Crumbz is by far the worst "analyst" they have ever had on the desk.. I feel like he is never right in any of his breakdowns... but everyone feels like he has next level knowledge because he got lucky with picks last worlds for a couple games on who would win I just meant he didn't hold back when he called out CLG for playing like shit even though they won.
the guests have always been more blunt than the casters, probably cause they don't have to answer to Rito
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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On October 03 2015 00:30 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:27 MaestroSC wrote:On October 03 2015 00:24 Caiada wrote:
The apprehension towards blind picking mids (not certain mids, literally any mid) is maybe the most baffling thing about drafting right now.
Also Weiless getting exposed? Have you ever followed this game? Same... What counters Azir?... Nothing that I can think of... however it would have 100% shutdown Darius in teamfights... If you can counter a team's priority pick..you should. They are clearly saying "MAN! Our top player is so good! He is going to carry us with a first pick, with bans focused on keeping him ahead!" You counter pick it, and now their plan is very meh. Ahri, Syndra, Zed, maybe Veigar Elise & Braum already does a good job of stopping Darius
I feel like TSM saw Darius then drafted their entire comp around beating it...like I think they thought vayne would be good against darius as well.
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On October 03 2015 00:31 stuchiu wrote:
well APM doesnt matter that much in SC2 either except for w few exceptions.
Meh obviously higher apm =/= winning the game, but APM is still a huge factor in sc2
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I just tuned in, have I missed something spectacular? (or how was/were the game(s) until now?)
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On October 03 2015 00:32 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:30 Inflicted wrote:On October 03 2015 00:27 MaestroSC wrote:On October 03 2015 00:24 Caiada wrote:
The apprehension towards blind picking mids (not certain mids, literally any mid) is maybe the most baffling thing about drafting right now.
Also Weiless getting exposed? Have you ever followed this game? Same... What counters Azir?... Nothing that I can think of... however it would have 100% shutdown Darius in teamfights... If you can counter a team's priority pick..you should. They are clearly saying "MAN! Our top player is so good! He is going to carry us with a first pick, with bans focused on keeping him ahead!" You counter pick it, and now their plan is very meh. Ahri, Syndra, Zed, maybe Veigar Elise & Braum already does a good job of stopping Darius I feel like TSM saw Darius then drafted their entire comp around beating it...like I think they thought vayne would be good against darius as well.
You could say the Darius top lane pick tilted them.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On October 03 2015 00:33 Yorbon wrote:
I just tuned in, have I missed something spectacular? (or how was/were the game(s) until now?)
There was only one game and it's not worth watching.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 03 2015 00:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:31 stuchiu wrote:
well APM doesnt matter that much in SC2 either except for w few exceptions. Meh obviously higher apm =/= winning the game, but APM is still a huge factor in sc2
Puzzle had the highest effective APM of any player. I havent seen him do a thing in years.
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On October 03 2015 00:33 739 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:33 Yorbon wrote:
I just tuned in, have I missed something spectacular? (or how was/were the game(s) until now?) There was only one game and it's not worth watching.
Eh maybe the first 20 minutes are worth watching. After that I agree with you though
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United States11390 Posts
On October 03 2015 00:31 stuchiu wrote:
well APM doesnt matter that much in SC2 either except for w few exceptions.
idk it does require a lot of apm to make a pool at 10 supply
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On October 03 2015 00:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Also this is about to bear vs salmon levels of one sided right?
first thing I thought of
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gFcKWDM.gif)
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On October 03 2015 00:29 MaestroSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:27 Kavas wrote:On October 03 2015 00:25 MaestroSC wrote:On October 03 2015 00:21 Inflicted wrote:
I wouldn't agree with Azir blindpick but for TSM's playstyle, maybe. It shuts down the first pick of KT Rolster though, and its the ONLY champ that TSM has been able to rally behind since the regular season. How many games have they won without Azir over the past couple months? Even if they first pick it...what does KT pick to hardcounter it? Also, you have a battle fo 2 teams that like to play slow drawn out matches...in which case you want Azir, the long term scaling AP mid... not LB the assassin who relies on getting ahead early to be a threat. TBF Bjergsen did get ahead. Too bad every other lane is losing and they can dedicate resources to protect Nagne. Getting ahead with a LB vs Azir.. does not matter in the slightest. If I was KT rolster... as soon as Bjerg locked in LB im like "Free win inc". Azir vs LB sucks for 20 mins, but is 10x stronger in teamfights after that... in a match where you KNEW it was going to be 2 teams playing safe for 25+ mins. He was ahead enough to get a single kill..but he wasn't ahead enough to provide even 1/10 of what Azir could in a teamfight.
You don't really pick LB to teamfight. Honestly after he got ahead in mid he could have roamed and put pressure everywhere else.
IDK why Bjergsen rarely does that. The only roam I can remember is when TSM decided to group as 5 at bottom just to get a single kill on Ssumday.
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