Pretty stoked about every bo5 tbh, seem's like it will be really good matches & series.
Every team looks pretty OK, so it's gonna be .. cool to see if NaJIn can make a playoff run, if CJ can teamfight there way to victory or if KOO's early game is good enough.
I think LCK is in a very interesting position because SKT is in theory the best counter to KOO, CJ is in theory the best counter to SKT and CJ is in theory the best counter to SKT, in playing style. Therefore I see the playoffs being quite predictable if KOO wins the first bo5, but if Najin wins things could become even more interesting.
Spirit of Najin transferred to Tiggers. Or maybe Smeb, Pray and especially Gorilla are just fucking good at video games I'm not sure, either of the two.
I don't get the "KOO will not be able to kill Maokai lategame" from Monte. They've got Ashe who has very consistent damage output, Gnar will outtank Maokai while Mega, Rek'Sai outtanks Elise easily and has more cc, Morgana (Black Shield) and Fizz (kill threat) protect Ashe from TF easily, Fizz can also zone him as long as he doesn't dive too hard. KOO's composition wasn't particularly stronger lategame unless they splitpush (and then Ashe ult happens).
Shy and Madlife 2v8. Seriously, Ambition did absolutely nothing useful. I don't know what's come over Coco and Space... Getting picked off like that. Shy has his down moments (getting caught) but he made up for it with stellar play otherwise, and Madlife made up for his 2 crap games with amazing thresh play. Sadly, the carries plus ambition just didn't do enough.
Shy can block all line spells from one direction, if they dump line spells on him at that point in the game it's not really worth it because he takes forever to kill. So if CJ played like that their only problem would be fizz flanks which they could handle with deep wards.
Instead the game turned when CJ pushed mid with 4 members while maokai was behind wraiths (??? dunno why). Then an ashe arrow went straight on coco and CJ lost their momentum. If Shy was just standing in front there I don't know what KOO could do.
On August 21 2015 04:09 Ansibled wrote: I really hope KT takes it, SKT vs KT would be hype.
Idk, KOO would be great as well, they seem to have picked up in the last few games. But their playstyle might not be suited to playing the likes of SKT, so KT probs more exciting to watch.
On August 21 2015 20:53 DarkCore wrote: How does KOO do it, wtf. They casters are talking the whole time about what a bad spot they're in, and KOO get an inhibitor just like last game.
Well I never understood the power curves the casters saw and talked about all the time. And the game proved them wrong.
I think the skirmish in the middle just went on too long to be sustainable for kt against a poke composition. That baron was the consequence of that. The inhib was nearly a given, seeing the lack of waveclear on kt.
Wtf how did KOO almost win that fight after that combo?
Edit: I'd be happy to see a melee carry succeed, especially with that semi-tanky build, but it's Riven who's a mess of a design and a dumb champion all around...
On August 21 2015 21:01 Numy wrote: KT teamfight just isn't as good as KOOs I think. They doing an amazing job stopping KT from splitpushing though.
It's just that KT's initiation is very poor with this comp. All you have is Gragas and that requires hitting quality ults consistently. KOO can just back up and if they followed hard can turn around with a Varus ult.
On August 21 2015 21:01 Numy wrote: KT teamfight just isn't as good as KOOs I think. They doing an amazing job stopping KT from splitpushing though.
It's just that KT's initiation is very poor with this comp. All you have is Gragas and that requires hitting quality ults consistently. KOO can just back up and if they followed hard can turn around with a Varus ult.
good thing smeb didnt know how to hit quality ults either
On August 21 2015 21:11 Yorbon wrote: Btw, noob question: looking back, would KT have benefited from a more engageheavy support (like annie or nautilus maybe)?
I think they picked Ali to try and peel Riven. Technically Annie can do that too, but she's squishy and outside the initial lockdown she'd get blown up by Riven/Azir/Vayne. As for Naut, Ali just brings more to the lane for Kog, the sustain and combo for ganks is probably preferred.
On August 21 2015 21:11 Yorbon wrote: Btw, noob question: looking back, would KT have benefited from a more engageheavy support (like annie or nautilus maybe)?
I think they picked Ali to try and peel Riven. Technically Annie can do that too, but she's squishy and outside the initial lockdown she'd get blown up by Riven/Azir/Vayne. As for Naut, Ali just brings more to the lane for Kog, the sustain and combo for ganks is probably preferred.
Sorry, but alistar was on KOO, right? I'm talking about kt.
I think no other support in the game would have had the courage to do what Piccaboo just did with Janna. So I'd say yeah, maybe the support choice was suboptimal and they happened to have a very good player saving the day.
There won't be any mirrors IMO. I think KOO might risk with Yasuo mid and maybe Malphite top but since they already made it against CJ, it probably won't happen.
On August 21 2015 22:03 739 wrote: There won't be any mirrors IMO. I think KOO might risk with Yasuo mid and maybe Malphite top but since they already made it against CJ, it probably won't happen.
It might be some triple mindgame w here KT might think they going to do that again but then they think KOO won't do it then KOO does it or idk. MINDGAMES MAN. BLINK PICKUUUUUUUUUUU
It gives a lot more AP now, and a bunch of mana too. I assume they don't feel like they need the CDR since it's not like they'll spam harass at each other, and with a passive mirror like that he wasn't looking to doing much before he can get it and start the stacking?
On August 21 2015 22:35 Alaric wrote: It gives a lot more AP now, and a bunch of mana too. I assume they don't feel like they need the CDR since it's not like they'll spam harass at each other, and with a passive mirror like that he wasn't looking to doing much before he can get it and start the stacking?
CDR boots plus scaling cdr blues gives the needed cdr anyways. (Scaling cdr blues is by far the most popular glyphs atm for AP too)
I missed the start of the game, having it in the background at work and stuff. Were KOO done it by the Leona/Ashe initiation combo into tower-killing snowball?
That last defense kind of showed why 2nd item QSS is rather meaningless on the Kog. Get caught by Arrow, QSS. 30 seconds later get caught by something else and die.
On August 21 2015 22:48 Gahlo wrote: Bye bye Meow Meows.
Still will go to Worlds, l 0 l. This match was literally meaningless in hindsight besides KT not in need of beating anyone at Regionals and only losing to Najin.
On August 21 2015 22:48 Gahlo wrote: Bye bye Meow Meows.
Still will go to Worlds, l 0 l. This match was literally meaningless in hindsight besides KT not in need of beating anyone at Regionals and only losing to Najin.
Mhm? We have single thread for whole playoffs. There is no point to make seperate one just for finals, since LCK LR threads are not as 'crowded' as LCS :<
On August 29 2015 17:06 Maluk wrote: We used to have friggin T-ara on stage before e-sports finals... Sigh. Is OGN broke or is it just that they won't put in the effort lol
they got a group no one ever heard of to do one song...leaning towards broke, or at least not budgeting a ton towards these finals
On August 29 2015 17:06 Maluk wrote: We used to have friggin T-ara on stage before e-sports finals... Sigh. Is OGN broke or is it just that they won't put in the effort lol
they got a group no one ever heard of to do one song...leaning towards broke, or at least not budgeting a ton towards these finals
On August 29 2015 17:06 Maluk wrote: We used to have friggin T-ara on stage before e-sports finals... Sigh. Is OGN broke or is it just that they won't put in the effort lol
they got a group no one ever heard of to do one song...leaning towards broke, or at least not budgeting a ton towards these finals
Why waste money on a 3-0 stomp
come on man I think SKT will put up a little bit better of a fight than that
For all the production value OGN and Korean organizations can put on, it's always puzzled me that they continue with the slightly eccentric brand of English when they could very easily hire someone to proof their translations lol
On August 29 2015 18:15 krndandaman wrote: kt picked a snowball comp, didn't snowball it enough. only SKT's botlane was behind, mid top jungle was fine if not ahead.
They had the chance to snowball at the dragon fight, then nagne used his full rotation on avarice ashe instead of the Vi ulted Azir
On August 29 2015 18:15 krndandaman wrote: kt picked a snowball comp, didn't snowball it enough. only SKT's botlane was behind, mid top jungle was fine if not ahead.
They had the chance to snowball at the dragon fight, then nagne used his full rotation on avarice ashe instead of the Vi ulted Azir
yeah vi also pussied out that fight by going for the ulti, flashing out immediately, then q-ing into miss it and die.
he should have just died for the azir.
Well if he had stayed in he wouldn't have killed Azir either, so flashing out was just objectively better. I mean he still played the fight pretty shitty, but once he was in that situation it was the best option.
On August 29 2015 18:19 AlterKot wrote: Hold me guys, I'm watching actually great teamfighting, where both teams are coordinated and frontlines exist, it's so beatiful ;_:
I see you have drunk the Montecristo coolaid. Does it taste as amazing as I imagine it to?
On August 29 2015 18:19 AlterKot wrote: Hold me guys, I'm watching actually great teamfighting, where both teams are coordinated and frontlines exist, it's so beatiful ;_:
*hugs*
Try not to get too comfortable if you're going to solo-Q later.
On August 29 2015 18:19 AlterKot wrote: Hold me guys, I'm watching actually great teamfighting, where both teams are coordinated and frontlines exist, it's so beatiful ;_:
*hugs*
Try not to get too comfortable if you're going to solo-Q later.
that was actually somewhat similar to soloq games everything is going great then someone calls drake and from there it only gets worse and worse
On August 29 2015 18:19 AlterKot wrote: Hold me guys, I'm watching actually great teamfighting, where both teams are coordinated and frontlines exist, it's so beatiful ;_:
On August 29 2015 18:19 AlterKot wrote: Hold me guys, I'm watching actually great teamfighting, where both teams are coordinated and frontlines exist, it's so beatiful ;_:
*hugs*
Try not to get too comfortable if you're going to solo-Q later.
that was actually somewhat similar to soloq games everything is going great then someone calls drake and from there it only gets worse and worse
Really. Most solo-Q I watch have someone going 0-x in lane before dragon is even considered.
On August 29 2015 18:19 AlterKot wrote: Hold me guys, I'm watching actually great teamfighting, where both teams are coordinated and frontlines exist, it's so beatiful ;_:
watch LPL its even better
Only half the time at best, and often only one team is good while other doesn't know what's going on.
On August 29 2015 18:22 Ansibled wrote: I'm not sure I would say they were coordinated that game... :\
I'm so used to EU and shitty LPL teams (M3, iG) that I'll take it.
On August 29 2015 18:15 krndandaman wrote: kt picked a snowball comp, didn't snowball it enough. only SKT's botlane was behind, mid top jungle was fine if not ahead.
They had the chance to snowball at the dragon fight, then nagne used his full rotation on avarice ashe instead of the Vi ulted Azir
yeah vi also pussied out that fight by going for the ulti, flashing out immediately, then q-ing into miss it and die.
he should have just died for the azir.
Well if he had stayed in he wouldn't have killed Azir either, so flashing out was just objectively better. I mean he still played the fight pretty shitty, but once he was in that situation it was the best option.
he could have let his team kill azir and done enough damage.
if you look at the replay, he ults in, and no one is in position to attack him besides ashe (wolf/bengi/bang is on corki braum and faker has his soldiers elsewhere). nagne saw that, and went to kill the ashe since he probably assumed vi was going to stay onto azir to allow him to cleanup.
but score flashes out, and nagne is left in a 1v1 with faker. nagne still manages to win the 1v1, but score q's in (misses) and faker flashes away from score and kills him.
it was bad communication (or lack thereof) from the two and forced their fed corki and braum to 2v3 for majority of the fight. Ssumday later comes back to help at the end, but it's not enough. Had faker been forced out or killed earlier, Nagne would be able to help the backline for 4v3.
Yeah that's true, if Score would have stayed in they would have had a better chance. Also didn't really get Gnar walking around on the edge because basically all CD's to kill him were down. Although I guess if Score would have stayed on Faker he would just have flashed out earlier?
On August 29 2015 18:15 krndandaman wrote: kt picked a snowball comp, didn't snowball it enough. only SKT's botlane was behind, mid top jungle was fine if not ahead.
They had the chance to snowball at the dragon fight, then nagne used his full rotation on avarice ashe instead of the Vi ulted Azir
yeah vi also pussied out that fight by going for the ulti, flashing out immediately, then q-ing into miss it and die.
he should have just died for the azir.
Well if he had stayed in he wouldn't have killed Azir either, so flashing out was just objectively better. I mean he still played the fight pretty shitty, but once he was in that situation it was the best option.
he could have let his team kill azir and done enough damage.
if you look at the replay, he ults in, and no one is in position to attack him besides ashe (wolf/bengi/bang is on corki braum and faker has his soldiers elsewhere). nagne saw that, and went to kill the ashe since he probably assumed vi was going to stay onto azir to allow him to cleanup.
but score flashes out, and nagne is left in a 1v1 with faker. nagne still manages to win the 1v1, but score q's in (misses) and faker flashes away from score and kills him.
it was bad communication (or lack thereof) from the two and forced their fed corki and braum to 2v3 for majority of the fight. Ssumday later comes back to help at the end, but it's not enough. Had faker been forced out or killed earlier, Nagne would be able to help the backline for 4v3.
Yeah that's true, if Score would have stayed in they would have had a better chance. Also didn't really get Gnar walking around on the edge because basically all CD's to kill him were down. Although I guess if Score would have stayed on Faker he would just have flashed out earlier?
Yeah Faker probably could have survived Score but it would allow Nagne to kill him much earlier and come back to help for the 4v3 instead of chasing him down to red buff bush.
I don't think that would have made much of a difference though, by the time Nagne would have been back the right side would definitely already been cleaned up by Elise/Ali.
Edit: Plus, LB would just have used all her CDs on Ashe, so even if Vi was on Azir it would have still taken some time for the CD's to be back up so he still would have needed to chase.
On August 29 2015 18:42 AlterKot wrote: THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE BREAKS BETWEEN GAMES LCS
FUCKING LEARN SOMETHING FOR ONCE
Too busy making skins.
Funny thing is I really like their "player spotlights" and "drives" and videos about creator of silver scrapes etc, there's just not enough of them and iirc they don't put them between games (at least not too often).
On August 29 2015 18:42 AlterKot wrote: THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE BREAKS BETWEEN GAMES LCS
FUCKING LEARN SOMETHING FOR ONCE
I mean at least LCS breaktimes aren't this long, like you couldn't fit that shit in 3 minutes or whatever the commercial time is
The breaks are way longer than 3 minutes. They just cut out all the rubbish talking they do and put in decent content instead. I mean at the NA LCS finals weekend they were just bringing in random celeb players to talk about them instead of the games.
How is that shirt $1000. It looks terrible rofl. OH Shit I think I get it. It's like saying "I have so much money that I can wear this awful looking shirt and still be better than you"
On August 29 2015 19:31 Numy wrote: How is that shirt $1000. It looks terrible rofl. OH Shit I think I get it. It's like saying "I have so much money that I can wear this awful looking shirt and still be better than you"
To me this stuff always screams "Look at me I just got scammed lol."
On August 29 2015 19:31 Numy wrote: How is that shirt $1000. It looks terrible rofl. OH Shit I think I get it. It's like saying "I have so much money that I can wear this awful looking shirt and still be better than you"
On August 29 2015 19:33 Ansibled wrote: Why Imp Why?
It's the ultimate flexing, he's reminding bang and arrow that he's still twenty times better than them and still can ball out on ugly shirts like that.
On August 29 2015 19:31 Numy wrote: How is that shirt $1000. It looks terrible rofl. OH Shit I think I get it. It's like saying "I have so much money that I can wear this awful looking shirt and still be better than you"
To me this stuff always screams "Look at me I just got scammed lol."
I think that's part of it too. They saying they can waste money getting scammed and not give a shit.
On August 29 2015 19:53 Stancel wrote: what buffs did ashe receive to the point of getting picked in playoffs
back in my day people only picked her at level 1 for mirana's arrow
None, Korea finally got past the "this ADC is strong but we're not going to pick it because it doesn't have an escape" phase with her... now that she isn't as strong as before.
On August 29 2015 20:12 DystopiaX wrote: does ssumday know you can basic attack the barrels, cause he's been qing them every time
You need to parley it to get the gold bonus
there have been times though where he's in the middle of fighting with maokai and he could have basic the barrels+q maokai for more damage and he qs the barrel instead
On August 29 2015 20:21 Ansibled wrote: After this series Korea will go back to not playing Ashe.
It's too bad that Ashe ever gained a smudge of popularity to begin with, just doesn't strike me as a top pick (or, more importantly, interesting to watch whatsoever)
On August 29 2015 20:21 Ansibled wrote: After this series Korea will go back to not playing Ashe.
It's too bad that Ashe ever gained a smudge of popularity to begin with, just doesn't strike me as a top pick (or, more importantly, interesting to watch whatsoever)
it was a great pick in the koo vs kt match. great plays from both adc's on ashe
On August 29 2015 20:26 Numy wrote: KT teamfighting this series has been so bad. They just randomly get into terrible fights then get deleted.
To be fair, Faker flashing barrels was glorious.
Haha ye SKT fighting has been a pleasure to watch. Marin gets good TPs instead of wasting them on a dead Drake(Ssumday??) and then they just prioritize really well.
On August 29 2015 20:45 Ansibled wrote: Ozone vs Blaze wasn't as one sided in actual games, it's just it was so different to expectations. It's either KT or GE.
There were literally 2,5 roflstomps, how isn't it onesided. Only worse series is probably Sword-Frost but it featured Trundle failpick.
On August 29 2015 20:45 Ansibled wrote: Ozone vs Blaze wasn't as one sided in actual games, it's just it was so different to expectations. It's either KT or GE.
There were literally 2,5 roflstomps, how isn't it onesided. Only worse series is probably Sword-Frost but it featured Trundle failpick.
T1-HUYA was even worse though.
Blaze got stomped but they at least looked somewhat alive for some fights :/ SKT series felt like more of a stomp because it didn't seem like SKT were as tryhard.
On August 29 2015 20:45 Ansibled wrote: Ozone vs Blaze wasn't as one sided in actual games, it's just it was so different to expectations. It's either KT or GE.
There were 2 stomps with a surrender voted in one of them. Those games were very one sided.
On August 29 2015 20:45 Ansibled wrote: Ozone vs Blaze wasn't as one sided in actual games, it's just it was so different to expectations. It's either KT or GE.
There were 2 stomps with a surrender voted in one of them. Those games were very one sided.
This final was funny to watch. SKT dominating as expected :D. KOO are qualified afaik, so whoever foreigner will be facing them will have an easy time, great.
On August 29 2015 20:51 Inflicted wrote: Yeah, I think Wolf was pretty average this series Not his "playmaking god" level
At least it wasn't full Dora. Taking what I can, right?
Funniest part is that we can't even predict how T1 will perform at Worlds, because, you know, glorious 5.18 lol.
On August 29 2015 20:52 Poopi wrote: This final was funny to watch. SKT dominating as expected :D. KOO are qualified afaik, so whoever foreigner will be facing them will have an easy time, great.
On August 29 2015 20:52 Poopi wrote: This final was funny to watch. SKT dominating as expected :D. KOO are qualified afaik, so whoever foreigner will be facing them will have an easy time, great.
On August 29 2015 21:09 MoonBear wrote: Why is that only OGN does the trophy kissing? Man, more leagues need to up their ceremony game.
it is a bw tradition
I get that. What I don't get is why other leagues don't also do it as well. Most of the time the teams just stand around awkwardly and then get shoo'ed off stage. =/
On August 29 2015 21:09 MoonBear wrote: Why is that only OGN does the trophy kissing? Man, more leagues need to up their ceremony game.
it is a bw tradition
I get that. What I don't get is why other leagues don't also do it as well. Most of the time the teams just stand around awkwardly and then get shoo'ed off stage. =/
Well let's see if Riot can get over the hurdle of having an actual host on stage instead of an ominous announcer first.
On August 29 2015 21:09 MoonBear wrote: Why is that only OGN does the trophy kissing? Man, more leagues need to up their ceremony game.
it is a bw tradition
I get that. What I don't get is why other leagues don't also do it as well. Most of the time the teams just stand around awkwardly and then get shoo'ed off stage. =/
they could do the ceremony thing yea, but the ogn production, especially the camera work, lightning etc are a level above
On August 29 2015 21:09 MoonBear wrote: Why is that only OGN does the trophy kissing? Man, more leagues need to up their ceremony game.
it is a bw tradition
I get that. What I don't get is why other leagues don't also do it as well. Most of the time the teams just stand around awkwardly and then get shoo'ed off stage. =/
they could do the ceremony thing yea, but the ogn production, especially the camera work, lightning etc are a level above
Kinda scared for Korea at worlds tbh, if SKT is the best they have to offer. It's basically Faker in solo queue mode while botlane is trolling/feeding. Marin helps from time to time but he can also enter full retard mode. I don't watch China but if they have a couple of decent level teams they should dismantle Korea this year.
On August 29 2015 21:09 MoonBear wrote: Why is that only OGN does the trophy kissing? Man, more leagues need to up their ceremony game.
it is a bw tradition
I get that. What I don't get is why other leagues don't also do it as well. Most of the time the teams just stand around awkwardly and then get shoo'ed off stage. =/
The interview thing they did at NAl LCS finals was better imo.
Also when Asians do all this hype, ceremony, trophies kissing stuff etc it is considered cute. When westerners do it it is perceived as ridiculous and awkward.
I guess LiquidLegends staff are free to use these as long as they credit me. No other site/person can use these unless they have my written permission.
On August 29 2015 20:52 Poopi wrote: This final was funny to watch. SKT dominating as expected :D. KOO are qualified afaik, so whoever foreigner will be facing them will have an easy time, great.
?
They beat both SK and Cloud9 at IEM, only team they lost was Chinese. im pretty sure they are going to do well at Worlds, especially against Western teams. I know you are new to LoL scene but stop spilling bullshit.
Flukey one-meta SK and zombie C9. IEM meant nothing, especially for KOO. KOO's not great by domestic standards but they'll be favored vs anybody from the West off individual skill.
On August 30 2015 02:37 Mensol wrote: I honestly dont know where the legend of "KOO is bad against foreigners" coming from. It's not the first time im seeing it.
Is it WE > KOO and TSM > WE, so TSM better than KOO? hopefully not... They are going to eat Western teams for snacks at Worlds.
It was basically Spirit in his most powerful form. That same WE took games off (Pawnless) EDG because Spirit was able to dominate the jungle. The real outlier of the tournament was how Santorin somehow looked competent. I still don't like Koos chances against the high quality Chinese teams that will likely be at Worlds though. They don't have the skill level to make it to mid-lategame in 3/5 matches against LGD or EDG or Snake. QG and iG would probably be interesting matchups for Koo.
Also I wish someone would start biting trophies, Nadal style.
On August 29 2015 22:23 Maluk wrote: Kinda scared for Korea at worlds tbh, if SKT is the best they have to offer. It's basically Faker in solo queue mode while botlane is trolling/feeding. Marin helps from time to time but he can also enter full retard mode. I don't watch China but if they have a couple of decent level teams they should dismantle Korea this year.
What exactly makes you scared for korea's performance? Seeing you don't watch china, what is your/the benchmark for team performance? Or in other words, compared to what team does skt look bad, over the course of the summer split? (I assume your opinion on skt is based on more than just this series)
On August 29 2015 22:23 Maluk wrote: Kinda scared for Korea at worlds tbh, if SKT is the best they have to offer. It's basically Faker in solo queue mode while botlane is trolling/feeding. Marin helps from time to time but he can also enter full retard mode. I don't watch China but if they have a couple of decent level teams they should dismantle Korea this year.
The top 3 korean teams are still better than any western team/gpl team IMO.
If you don't watch china, how could you think they'd dismantle korea?
On August 29 2015 22:23 Maluk wrote: Kinda scared for Korea at worlds tbh, if SKT is the best they have to offer. It's basically Faker in solo queue mode while botlane is trolling/feeding. Marin helps from time to time but he can also enter full retard mode. I don't watch China but if they have a couple of decent level teams they should dismantle Korea this year.
What exactly makes you scared for korea's performance? Seeing you don't watch china, what is your/the benchmark for team performance? Or in other words, compared to what team does skt look bad, over the course of the summer split? (I assume your opinion on skt is based on more than just this series)
SKT looked bad against EDG at MSI and to me they still play exactly the same way (except that Faker is back to the very top), which means that they should still lose assuming that the chinese teams didn't magically get worse. The trolling botlane lost SKT the series against EDG and Wolf and Bang did not improve at all so I don't see any reason why SKT would win against a top chinese team this time around.
Basically people say SKT has improved because they are dominating Korea but I don't agree with that point of view ; it's pretty much the exact same team and they can lose in the exact same fashion. SKT dominated Korea because Korea sucks. I mean, it's still better than NA/EU, but compared to last year's Korea, the level has droppped significantly, while the Korean exodus is making China a lot stronger.
Try watching LPL playoff vods. I dont know if EDG is sandbagging or other team just played better. I like SKTs chances this year. Faker can play Azir now and Bengi playing Elise. I think Piglet and Mandu was more of a troll in 2013 than Bang and Wolf this year.
On August 30 2015 17:00 ffrozenfish wrote: Try watching LPL playoff vods. I dont know if EDG is sandbagging or other team just played better. I like SKTs chances this year. Faker can play Azir now and Bengi playing Elise. I think Piglet and Mandu was more of a troll in 2013 than Bang and Wolf this year.
Or if Bengi gets the Clearlove treatment and SKT proceeds to lose in grand fashion.
LPL teams didn't look that good either, except maybe LGD. SKT are eager to win Worlds so I would not count them out easily. The patches will change anyways but even though the top 3 korean line-up is less impressive than the chinese one, it will probably not be a dismantle.
Despite all their flaws I wouldn't bet against SKT winning worlds. Faker looks like he's near peak form again. The much-maligned Marin and Bengi both played excellently in the finals. The bot lane isn't going to beat Deft/Meiko or Imp/Pyl, but it can do well enough for SKT to win. They're nowhere near the prohibitive favorites that S3 SKT or S4 SSW/SSB were, and it doesnt surprise me that some people rank LGD or EDG above them. But writing them off seems a bit much
On August 30 2015 22:00 MajorityofOne wrote: Despite all their flaws I wouldn't bet against SKT winning worlds. Faker looks like he's near peak form again. The much-maligned Marin and Bengi both played excellently in the finals. The bot lane isn't going to beat Deft/Meiko or Imp/Pyl, but it can do well enough for SKT to win. They're nowhere near the prohibitive favorites that S3 SKT or S4 SSW/SSB were, and it doesnt surprise me that some people rank LGD or EDG above them. But writing them off seems a bit much
I wouldn't be super surprised if Bang/Wolf managed to carry out of bot lane at least once vs EDG. It all depends on how Deft plays, if he gets himself back together it would be tough, if he plays like their playoff games it would hurt EDG. Also Imp is often solo in a lane, so talking about 2vs2 is just touching half of the early laning phase.
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