• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:54
CEST 07:54
KST 14:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy14
Community News
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris54Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me)
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread Pros React To: herO's Baffling Game ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1068 users

EDG takes 2015 Mid-Season Invitational - Page 131

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 420 Next
Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2601
On May 08 2015 13:30 Faeny wrote:
Lots of banbets to resolve?

Nah, Limpinggoat gets a 1 week ban and that's it.
I am who you think I am
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2602
Pretty sure limping goat has like a 2 year ban at this point. lol.
liftlift > tsm
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2603
On May 08 2015 13:27 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 13:26 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
TSM got punished so hard by their recklessness. Usually they just let dyrus fall behind and get the other lanes ahead. It didn't work this time, so they just fell so far behind. Once dyrus was far enough behind he could be solo'd, they could ignore top and just 4 man bot over and over. Pretty smart. bjerg didn't do quite enough work mid lane to stop faker.

I think Wolf should get a lot of credit for basically nullifying like 4-5 ganks on the bot side

They were so reckless with those lantern ults, they were way too telegraphed. Cow was probably picked specifically because of that.



no idea why they were ganking bot anyway. most of the time the lane was pushed, and you're ganking an urgot alistar. why bother? just yolo mid like always against the cass and see what you can do.

What you're not supposed to gank the tankiest lane? Bjerg was so close like 3 times against faker, if they went middle focus instead of bottom focus, maybe things would be different.

Dyrus just needs to pick up 1-2 weird champions top lane. Maybe start playing nunu top to throw people off.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2604
On May 08 2015 13:30 Caiada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 13:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Bjergsen isn't "hurting himself" by playing Cho and Ziggs, he's literally toos cared to play playmaking champs cause he'd get exposed even harder, at least with Cho/Ziggs he can KS/pussy and farm from afar and avoid looking like the fraud he is.


Yeah, but I prefer to do actual analysis, not just go crazy with preconceived notions.

only Bjerg has played Cho in NALCS so it's not like he's just pulling out the "pussy" picks now
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2605
My analysis tells me SKT outclassed TSM so hard that it didnt look like they were even playing the same game.
Moderator
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2606
On May 08 2015 13:30 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 13:29 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:27 negativedge wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:26 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
TSM got punished so hard by their recklessness. Usually they just let dyrus fall behind and get the other lanes ahead. It didn't work this time, so they just fell so far behind. Once dyrus was far enough behind he could be solo'd, they could ignore top and just 4 man bot over and over. Pretty smart. bjerg didn't do quite enough work mid lane to stop faker.

I think Wolf should get a lot of credit for basically nullifying like 4-5 ganks on the bot side

They were so reckless with those lantern ults, they were way too telegraphed. Cow was probably picked specifically because of that.



no idea why they were ganking bot anyway. most of the time the lane was pushed, and you're ganking an urgot alistar. why bother? just yolo mid like always against the cass and see what you can do.

yea and some of those were really forced, like santorin had to bodyslam just to get in range of a lantern :/

or go gank top first and protect the hecarim in the matchup instead of leaving him to die over and over

like yea dyrus shouldn't have pushed up but santorin should also have been there to help instead of ganking the tankiest bot lane in existence.


santorin is bad

has been all year it's just no junglers in NA are any good
In Inca we trust
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2607
On May 02 2015 21:39 oneofthem wrote:
bjergsen may get exposed pretty hard this event.

let's see what he does on day 2 because it's not looking good so far
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 08 2015 04:31 GMT
#2608
TSM is 2 years too early to challenge SKT
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 08 2015 04:32 GMT
#2609
TSM can make it out of groups if they beat AHQ right?
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
May 08 2015 04:32 GMT
#2610
bjerg needs to carry hard, which he cant really do on ziggs, top and jungler completely shit the bed. Santorin the invisible man? Honestly I was pretty pissed he got rookie of year award, now this is the proof
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 04:34:14
May 08 2015 04:32 GMT
#2611
On May 08 2015 13:31 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 13:30 Caiada wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Bjergsen isn't "hurting himself" by playing Cho and Ziggs, he's literally toos cared to play playmaking champs cause he'd get exposed even harder, at least with Cho/Ziggs he can KS/pussy and farm from afar and avoid looking like the fraud he is.


Yeah, but I prefer to do actual analysis, not just go crazy with preconceived notions.

only Bjerg has played Cho in NALCS so it's not like he's just pulling out the "pussy" picks now


That's when Cho was just coming in, and honestly, he can play whatever he wants in NA LCS. There's a time and a place based on understanding of what your team needs you to do, and in his case, it's not stall out a dead game on Ziggs or play utility on Cho.

If you go into the game with a mindset that Faker is so much better than you that you have to pick a champion specifically to not die and to pick up what CS you can, your lane is over.
XDG Mata
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
May 08 2015 04:32 GMT
#2612
On May 08 2015 13:32 Slow Motion wrote:
TSM can make it out of groups if they beat AHQ right?

They still have to play EDG lol. so TSM is 2-3 or 1-4. If 2-3 they can maybe play tiebreaker,s but also possible they're just directly eliminated.
TranslatorBaa!
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#2613
On May 08 2015 13:32 Slow Motion wrote:
TSM can make it out of groups if they beat AHQ right?


AHQ > FNC > TSM

AHQ > TSM
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 04:34:20
May 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#2614
On May 08 2015 13:31 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 13:30 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:29 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:27 negativedge wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:26 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
TSM got punished so hard by their recklessness. Usually they just let dyrus fall behind and get the other lanes ahead. It didn't work this time, so they just fell so far behind. Once dyrus was far enough behind he could be solo'd, they could ignore top and just 4 man bot over and over. Pretty smart. bjerg didn't do quite enough work mid lane to stop faker.

I think Wolf should get a lot of credit for basically nullifying like 4-5 ganks on the bot side

They were so reckless with those lantern ults, they were way too telegraphed. Cow was probably picked specifically because of that.



no idea why they were ganking bot anyway. most of the time the lane was pushed, and you're ganking an urgot alistar. why bother? just yolo mid like always against the cass and see what you can do.

yea and some of those were really forced, like santorin had to bodyslam just to get in range of a lantern :/

or go gank top first and protect the hecarim in the matchup instead of leaving him to die over and over

like yea dyrus shouldn't have pushed up but santorin should also have been there to help instead of ganking the tankiest bot lane in existence.


santorin is bad

has been all year it's just no junglers in NA are any good


not saying they are world class, but it's more his laners and mainly lustboy covering up how bad he is than him being better than any other NA jungler

also Cho was a good pick in the game Bjerg picked Cho, I mean ya it's a safe ish pick in mid and they also gave him a counterpick but it was the right pick given the comps
Carrilord has arrived.
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
May 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#2615
I hope they can salvage themselves on AHQ or even EDG tomorrow...
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#2616
Poll: [MSI 2015] D1G8 SKT T1 - TSM

- Double brutalizer < Marin being very gentle (8)
 
31%

- I'm disappointed, TSM is still #2 team, just from the bottom (7)
 
27%

- I'm not disappointed, Asia is just simply superior (6)
 
23%

- GET-C9 was better than this. (3)
 
12%

- I'm one of guys who won banbet vs LimpingGoat (2)
 
8%

26 total votes

Your vote: [MSI 2015] D1G8 SKT T1 - TSM

(Vote): - I'm disappointed, TSM is still #2 team, just from the bottom
(Vote): - I'm not disappointed, Asia is just simply superior
(Vote): - I'm one of guys who won banbet vs LimpingGoat
(Vote): - Double brutalizer < Marin being very gentle
(Vote): - GET-C9 was better than this.


LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 04:36:24
May 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#2617
The maintenance of this status quo, whereby KR >>> CN > NA/EU, were it to continue through Worlds, simply validates H1: that Korean infrastructure & gaming culture is what gets them ahead, and that this is not transferable via mere talent imports. Not even coaching imports. Bonus evidence comes from Korean players in China doing worse and worse when put beside their peers in Korea.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#2618
Bjergsen not being able to destroy the lane just unsettles the rest of the team and they start going for really reckless plays, this happens every time. TSM wins games through the pressure provided by bjergsen, but how can he hope to do that against the likes of Faker/Ezhoon and with a champion with a small kill potential such as ziggs?The approach should've been completely different if TSM were to have a chance, but can a team re-invent itself without focusing entirely in doing such?I just can't see any chance at all for TSM in a format such as this, they'd better just focus on beating the other teams than even trying to concoct a win vs SKT.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
May 08 2015 04:34 GMT
#2619
dyrus exposed again, zz
Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
May 08 2015 04:34 GMT
#2620
On May 08 2015 13:33 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 13:31 las91 wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:30 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:29 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:27 negativedge wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:26 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 Nos- wrote:
On May 08 2015 13:23 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
TSM got punished so hard by their recklessness. Usually they just let dyrus fall behind and get the other lanes ahead. It didn't work this time, so they just fell so far behind. Once dyrus was far enough behind he could be solo'd, they could ignore top and just 4 man bot over and over. Pretty smart. bjerg didn't do quite enough work mid lane to stop faker.

I think Wolf should get a lot of credit for basically nullifying like 4-5 ganks on the bot side

They were so reckless with those lantern ults, they were way too telegraphed. Cow was probably picked specifically because of that.



no idea why they were ganking bot anyway. most of the time the lane was pushed, and you're ganking an urgot alistar. why bother? just yolo mid like always against the cass and see what you can do.

yea and some of those were really forced, like santorin had to bodyslam just to get in range of a lantern :/

or go gank top first and protect the hecarim in the matchup instead of leaving him to die over and over

like yea dyrus shouldn't have pushed up but santorin should also have been there to help instead of ganking the tankiest bot lane in existence.


santorin is bad

has been all year it's just no junglers in NA are any good


not saying they are world class, but it's more his laners and mainly lustboy covering up how bad he is than him being better than any other NA jungler

Yeah, Lustboy really does make up for a lot of TSM's weaknesses while in NA LCS, but it's not enough here.
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 420 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1179
JulyZerg 689
sSak 75
Noble 67
ToSsGirL 43
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm83
League of Legends
JimRising 809
febbydoto6
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K926
semphis_41
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King75
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor134
Other Games
summit1g6806
WinterStarcraft560
ViBE252
ROOTCatZ28
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH362
• practicex 37
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt493
Other Games
• Scarra1081
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 6m
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
Maestros of the Game
11h 6m
Maru vs Lambo
herO vs ShoWTimE
BSL Team Wars
13h 6m
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
[ Show More ]
Cosmonarchy
6 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-02
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.