[OGN] Champions Summer 2014 - Page 70

On August 17 2014 00:23 AlterKot wrote:

I also hold Looper in higher regards than Acorn. I'm not sure if Imp/Mata are that much better than Deft/Heart though.

On August 17 2014 00:26 AsnSensation wrote:
always enjoy a good justice porn. Sssumday and Kakao winning ogn after they got treated so badly on KTB by the old startale trio is nice!

On August 17 2014 00:27 bokchoi wrote:


well ryu and mafa are in the retirement home now. i just wish kakao could laugh in their faces huehue

On August 17 2014 00:31 UnKooL wrote:

Damn, totally forgot about that drama. Well I always knew Most 3 aka Rookie would do well, been following him since his solo q ahri days, and when he came on Nicegametv's Secret Lesson I knew he would be a great mid.

On August 17 2014 09:10 Djin)ftw( wrote:
can someone explain to me why corki was picked over trist? corki went 1-3 this final. I especially dont understand the pick in blind mode

On August 17 2014 08:28 Owned Noob wrote:
I think the reason arrow always falls so behind in cs is because he always, always groups early and swings the early skirmishes in kta's favor. Kakao's aggressive playstyle really enables alot of the team's individual strengths early game, and by creating favorable opportunities early on, arrow gets gold through kills and objectives, which covers for his really shitty laning phase. Even if he might get a lot of flack for falling behind 100+ cs, his playstyle really complements kakao's and their ability to coordinate early is key to kta's early game dominance.

On August 17 2014 13:42 1ntrigue wrote:

That's only a part of it. Arrow is just completely outclassed at this level though. In favourable match-ups, he ended up losing by 10-20 cs by 15min or so (sometimes with Heart roaming too), while in unfavourable match-ups, he would be 30-40s down by 15min or so. In the last game, he was roaming so there was a greater difference, but it was obvious that Arrow was the inferior ADC in laning, in teamfights (he would usually misposition, and even when he didn't, he had much less damage output than Deft even though Deft was always the dive target for KTA), and even in the macro game, he was worse than Deft.

I was rooting hard for KTA, but Arrow/Hachani would get wrecked at worlds vs Deft/Heart, Imp/Mata, Namei/fzzf and Uzi/Zero in terms of laning and teamfight presence.

On August 17 2014 00:26 AsnSensation wrote:
always enjoy a good justice porn. Sssumday and Kakao winning ogn after they got treated so badly on KTB by the old startale trio is nice!

On August 17 2014 16:14 Owned Noob wrote:

What i'm saying is that Arrow, in the system that kta is running, has managed to circumvent his biggest weakness (really, really bad laning) by grouping up early in order to make aggressive early plays with Kakao. Arrow grouping is key to KTA's early playmaking potential, as they often win the skirmishes simply by having more people there. In terms of teamfighting, I'd say that Deft and Arrow each played better in the games that their team won. What really impressed me about Arrow is that he managed to approach his biggest weakness in a way that complements the way his team's playstyle. Instead of trying to fix something he naturally wasn't good at, Arrow opts to avoid the issue entirely and chooses to get his gold through grouping and pressuring early. Because he groups early, KTA has a much better chance at winning early battles and securing objectives. I'll admit I though he was shit before too, but he's adapted his play to fit his team's needs beautifully.

On August 17 2014 16:15 GozoShioda wrote:


I always hated ryu/score/mafa for this. Those three assholes were in control of that Bullets team, not the coaches or owners. Thank god they are almost all gone and the coaching staff is finally getting their shit together. Why am I not surprised one of the coaches from KT B hated dealing with those three so much that he took Zero and Insec with him to China.