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Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#681
Wil Fnatic play MIL?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#682
Man, Tank Shyvana feels so useless 1v1 compared to botrk shyv
Liquipedia"Expert"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#683
On March 15 2014 00:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
IS THIS THE SEASON 2 ZZITAI???

MECHANICAL MONSTER HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY


He definitely played that very well but he got lucky too.

50% crit is not lucky.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 14 2014 15:36 GMT
#684
On March 15 2014 00:35 Yezzus wrote:
Wil Fnatic play MIL?

Fnatic vs Millenium loser's match
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 14 2014 15:36 GMT
#685
On March 15 2014 00:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:09 Fusilero wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 Gahlo wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:04 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:02 TitusVI wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:00 ketchup wrote:
On March 14 2014 23:57 Gahlo wrote:
On March 14 2014 23:55 Numy wrote:
[quote]

I blame the way LoL champ select works. Having each person pick instead of just having a captain have the final decision leads to a lot of stupidity. I doubt Puppey would let his team pick some retarded shit, he just picks whatever he feels can win.

Not having the team's captain calling the picks in a competitive team is dumb anyway, regardless of who physically does it.


This is why it was really funny when TSM "role swapped" regi to top lane so dyrus couldn't pull stupid shit on him. It was just so Regi could control his team's pick/bans. I guess they had dissenting opinions, and dyrus chose wrongly. lolol


Don't they use communication during champ select?


There were disagreements which as first pick Dyrus could always get his viewpoint on, since he could just pick the champion and lock in.

iirc, that was when Xpecial was trying to do some decision making instead of Regi and Chaox was still on the team.


Oh was it really that long ago? They were super dysfunctional.

I still remember when regi made xpecial cry over one of the ban/pick phases after the game

... what?

On March 14 2014 22:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:37 Roffles wrote:
IG: Bait with shit jungler. Initiate 4v5 with unkillable top laner. Win fight


Basically Fnatic fell into the most standard LPL bait, textbook style ROFL.

Since you watch at least some LPL, are there any matches/Bo2/teams so far you'd recommend as being representative of the "Chinese playstyle/meta", or whatever comes close to it? Gamepedia seems to have at least some VoDs of the first weeks so it's accessible (no commentary for most of us tho obv.).


The thing that annoys people like Yango and I a lot is that there IS NO "Chinese meta," that defines every team lol, it comes down to drafting and execution of said drafts. Some teams have comps that they are familiar with and use a lot, but it's not some overarching CHINA AGGRESSIVE PLAYSTYLE shit lol.

For example Royal has a J4 comp they like a lot, WE likes Rengar-Orianna.

In terms of individiaul plays and focal points there are some characteristics but thye're nothing super drastically different.

Watch WE vs OMG Bo2, and watch EDG vs another top 4 team.

Didn't want to imply anything like "aggressive meta" or stuff, actually I was thinking more along the lines of how EU is taking it more slow and steady than NA (and putting less emphasis on nash in general), or when you could point out that EU used Lissandra while NA didn't, and the reverse with Rumble, or being more or less objective based (then again when you look at how CLG went from neglecting drake totally to taking most of them you could argue it shows that it's not regions as a whole being more objective-based ).

Thanls for the suggestions.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 15:37:18
March 14 2014 15:36 GMT
#686
Yeah Zzitai havin another great game. Just destroying his lane opponent.

Might be the last time he got Yasuo this tournament.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 15:36:40
March 14 2014 15:36 GMT
#687
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.

User was warned for this post
liftlift > tsm
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 14 2014 15:37 GMT
#688
On March 15 2014 00:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
IS THIS THE SEASON 2 ZZITAI???

MECHANICAL MONSTER HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY


He definitely played that very well but he got lucky too.

50% crit is not lucky.


It's a coin toss. And he survived barely. If that crit didn't happen it would've likely been a 1v2 trade, maybe a 1v1.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 14 2014 15:37 GMT
#689
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.
In Inca we trust
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 15:38:32
March 14 2014 15:38 GMT
#690
On March 15 2014 00:37 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
IS THIS THE SEASON 2 ZZITAI???

MECHANICAL MONSTER HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY


He definitely played that very well but he got lucky too.

50% crit is not lucky.


It's a coin toss. And he survived barely. If that crit didn't happen it would've likely been a 1v2 trade, maybe a 1v1.

That's not lucky. He bought enough crit to justify the fact that he would crit regularly.
On March 15 2014 00:37 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.

you people have terrible definition of lucky.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 14 2014 15:38 GMT
#691
On March 15 2014 00:36 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:09 Fusilero wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 Gahlo wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:04 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:02 TitusVI wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:00 ketchup wrote:
On March 14 2014 23:57 Gahlo wrote:
[quote]
Not having the team's captain calling the picks in a competitive team is dumb anyway, regardless of who physically does it.


This is why it was really funny when TSM "role swapped" regi to top lane so dyrus couldn't pull stupid shit on him. It was just so Regi could control his team's pick/bans. I guess they had dissenting opinions, and dyrus chose wrongly. lolol


Don't they use communication during champ select?


There were disagreements which as first pick Dyrus could always get his viewpoint on, since he could just pick the champion and lock in.

iirc, that was when Xpecial was trying to do some decision making instead of Regi and Chaox was still on the team.


Oh was it really that long ago? They were super dysfunctional.

I still remember when regi made xpecial cry over one of the ban/pick phases after the game

... what?

On March 14 2014 22:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:37 Roffles wrote:
IG: Bait with shit jungler. Initiate 4v5 with unkillable top laner. Win fight


Basically Fnatic fell into the most standard LPL bait, textbook style ROFL.

Since you watch at least some LPL, are there any matches/Bo2/teams so far you'd recommend as being representative of the "Chinese playstyle/meta", or whatever comes close to it? Gamepedia seems to have at least some VoDs of the first weeks so it's accessible (no commentary for most of us tho obv.).


The thing that annoys people like Yango and I a lot is that there IS NO "Chinese meta," that defines every team lol, it comes down to drafting and execution of said drafts. Some teams have comps that they are familiar with and use a lot, but it's not some overarching CHINA AGGRESSIVE PLAYSTYLE shit lol.

For example Royal has a J4 comp they like a lot, WE likes Rengar-Orianna.

In terms of individiaul plays and focal points there are some characteristics but thye're nothing super drastically different.

Watch WE vs OMG Bo2, and watch EDG vs another top 4 team.

Didn't want to imply anything like "aggressive meta" or stuff, actually I was thinking more along the lines of how EU is taking it more slow and steady than NA (and putting less emphasis on nash in general), or when you could point out that EU used Lissandra while NA didn't, and the reverse with Rumble, or being more or less objective based (then again when you look at how CLG went from neglecting drake totally to taking most of them you could argue it shows that it's not regions as a whole being more objective-based ).

Thanls for the suggestions.

One thing that is distinctly Chinese is syndra, they're pretty much the only region besides vooby to make use of syndra
Glorious SEA doto
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 14 2014 15:39 GMT
#692
On March 15 2014 00:37 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.

Well yeah but he would still have taken the best possible shot at getting a kill.

He just played the fight flawlessly, end of story.
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 14 2014 15:39 GMT
#693
This is actually a pretty depressing chinese game to watch. The fact that's it about 20 minutes, and the kill count is below 60....
liftlift > tsm
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 14 2014 15:39 GMT
#694
On March 15 2014 00:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:37 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
IS THIS THE SEASON 2 ZZITAI???

MECHANICAL MONSTER HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY


He definitely played that very well but he got lucky too.

50% crit is not lucky.


It's a coin toss. And he survived barely. If that crit didn't happen it would've likely been a 1v2 trade, maybe a 1v1.

That's not lucky. He bought enough crit to justify the fact that he would crit regularly.
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:37 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.

you people have terrible definition of lucky.


So 50% isn't lucky, what is? 40%? 30%? It's not a guaranteed nor is it a majority chance occurrence, it's not reliable.
In Inca we trust
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 14 2014 15:39 GMT
#695
On March 15 2014 00:37 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.


You don't play poker do you :|

Illusion is like having one of the best game of his life right now BTW very surprising to see.
TranslatorBaa!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 14 2014 15:39 GMT
#696
On March 15 2014 00:38 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:36 Alaric wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:09 Fusilero wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 Gahlo wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:04 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:02 TitusVI wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:00 ketchup wrote:
[quote]

This is why it was really funny when TSM "role swapped" regi to top lane so dyrus couldn't pull stupid shit on him. It was just so Regi could control his team's pick/bans. I guess they had dissenting opinions, and dyrus chose wrongly. lolol


Don't they use communication during champ select?


There were disagreements which as first pick Dyrus could always get his viewpoint on, since he could just pick the champion and lock in.

iirc, that was when Xpecial was trying to do some decision making instead of Regi and Chaox was still on the team.


Oh was it really that long ago? They were super dysfunctional.

I still remember when regi made xpecial cry over one of the ban/pick phases after the game

... what?

On March 14 2014 22:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:37 Roffles wrote:
IG: Bait with shit jungler. Initiate 4v5 with unkillable top laner. Win fight


Basically Fnatic fell into the most standard LPL bait, textbook style ROFL.

Since you watch at least some LPL, are there any matches/Bo2/teams so far you'd recommend as being representative of the "Chinese playstyle/meta", or whatever comes close to it? Gamepedia seems to have at least some VoDs of the first weeks so it's accessible (no commentary for most of us tho obv.).


The thing that annoys people like Yango and I a lot is that there IS NO "Chinese meta," that defines every team lol, it comes down to drafting and execution of said drafts. Some teams have comps that they are familiar with and use a lot, but it's not some overarching CHINA AGGRESSIVE PLAYSTYLE shit lol.

For example Royal has a J4 comp they like a lot, WE likes Rengar-Orianna.

In terms of individiaul plays and focal points there are some characteristics but thye're nothing super drastically different.

Watch WE vs OMG Bo2, and watch EDG vs another top 4 team.

Didn't want to imply anything like "aggressive meta" or stuff, actually I was thinking more along the lines of how EU is taking it more slow and steady than NA (and putting less emphasis on nash in general), or when you could point out that EU used Lissandra while NA didn't, and the reverse with Rumble, or being more or less objective based (then again when you look at how CLG went from neglecting drake totally to taking most of them you could argue it shows that it's not regions as a whole being more objective-based ).

Thanls for the suggestions.

One thing that is distinctly Chinese is syndra, they're pretty much the only region besides vooby to make use of syndra

I'm pretty surprised Bjergsen hasn't played Syndra. Shortly after coming to NA he put her on his short list of champions to prepare for competitive play.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9129 Posts
March 14 2014 15:39 GMT
#697
On March 15 2014 00:39 wei2coolman wrote:
This is actually a pretty depressing chinese game to watch. The fact that's it about 20 minutes, and the kill count is below 60....

I think you're mistaking China with SEA
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 14 2014 15:40 GMT
#698
On March 15 2014 00:39 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:38 Fusilero wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:36 Alaric wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:09 Fusilero wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:08 Gahlo wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:04 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:02 TitusVI wrote:
[quote]

Don't they use communication during champ select?


There were disagreements which as first pick Dyrus could always get his viewpoint on, since he could just pick the champion and lock in.

iirc, that was when Xpecial was trying to do some decision making instead of Regi and Chaox was still on the team.


Oh was it really that long ago? They were super dysfunctional.

I still remember when regi made xpecial cry over one of the ban/pick phases after the game

... what?

On March 14 2014 22:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:37 Roffles wrote:
IG: Bait with shit jungler. Initiate 4v5 with unkillable top laner. Win fight


Basically Fnatic fell into the most standard LPL bait, textbook style ROFL.

Since you watch at least some LPL, are there any matches/Bo2/teams so far you'd recommend as being representative of the "Chinese playstyle/meta", or whatever comes close to it? Gamepedia seems to have at least some VoDs of the first weeks so it's accessible (no commentary for most of us tho obv.).


The thing that annoys people like Yango and I a lot is that there IS NO "Chinese meta," that defines every team lol, it comes down to drafting and execution of said drafts. Some teams have comps that they are familiar with and use a lot, but it's not some overarching CHINA AGGRESSIVE PLAYSTYLE shit lol.

For example Royal has a J4 comp they like a lot, WE likes Rengar-Orianna.

In terms of individiaul plays and focal points there are some characteristics but thye're nothing super drastically different.

Watch WE vs OMG Bo2, and watch EDG vs another top 4 team.

Didn't want to imply anything like "aggressive meta" or stuff, actually I was thinking more along the lines of how EU is taking it more slow and steady than NA (and putting less emphasis on nash in general), or when you could point out that EU used Lissandra while NA didn't, and the reverse with Rumble, or being more or less objective based (then again when you look at how CLG went from neglecting drake totally to taking most of them you could argue it shows that it's not regions as a whole being more objective-based ).

Thanls for the suggestions.

One thing that is distinctly Chinese is syndra, they're pretty much the only region besides vooby to make use of syndra

I'm pretty surprised Bjergsen hasn't played Syndra. Shortly after coming to NA he put her on his short list of champions to prepare for competitive play.

Bjergsen also said cassiopeia and swain lol
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 14 2014 15:40 GMT
#699
On March 15 2014 00:39 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:37 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
IS THIS THE SEASON 2 ZZITAI???

MECHANICAL MONSTER HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY


He definitely played that very well but he got lucky too.

50% crit is not lucky.


It's a coin toss. And he survived barely. If that crit didn't happen it would've likely been a 1v2 trade, maybe a 1v1.

That's not lucky. He bought enough crit to justify the fact that he would crit regularly.
On March 15 2014 00:37 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.

you people have terrible definition of lucky.


So 50% isn't lucky, what is? 40%? 30%? It's not a guaranteed nor is it a majority chance occurrence, it's not reliable.

50% crit isn't reliable? lol. please, at least learn that they have a hidden markov chain used for crit, so it is reliable. lol.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 14 2014 15:40 GMT
#700
On March 15 2014 00:39 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:37 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
IS THIS THE SEASON 2 ZZITAI???

MECHANICAL MONSTER HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY


He definitely played that very well but he got lucky too.

50% crit is not lucky.


It's a coin toss. And he survived barely. If that crit didn't happen it would've likely been a 1v2 trade, maybe a 1v1.

That's not lucky. He bought enough crit to justify the fact that he would crit regularly.
On March 15 2014 00:37 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 15 2014 00:35 las91 wrote:
Crit chance = 20% crit chance.

He had a 1 in 5 chance of "being a god" calm down.

Someone doesn't play Yasuo, tard.
that's 40%, and he's most definitely running 5% crit runes.

therefore 50%.


1 in 2 chance then. Still lucky since half of the times he wouldn't have gotten the crit.

you people have terrible definition of lucky.


So 50% isn't lucky, what is? 40%? 30%? It's not a guaranteed nor is it a majority chance occurrence, it's not reliable.

Not with the way Crit works in league. The more you don't cirt the higher your crit is inflated.
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