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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
March 08 2014 05:28 GMT
#781
The penguin plushie used to sit in front of Kiwikids monitor so people could see it, but we were told to take it down today
Should have won that CLG game, dont like losing to CLG grrrrrr
washed
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 08 2014 05:30 GMT
#782
On March 08 2014 14:28 Vlanitak wrote:
The penguin plushie used to sit in front of Kiwikids monitor so people could see it, but we were told to take it down today
Should have won that CLG game, dont like losing to CLG grrrrrr

RIP penguin plushie.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 08 2014 06:08 GMT
#783
I wake up check the results, see that XDG lost that match in the end. This is normally the part where I'm sad but XDG have just taken my soul I can't even be sad when they lose -_-
At least kassadin lost/jayce won
Glorious SEA doto
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
March 08 2014 08:20 GMT
#784
On March 08 2014 06:32 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 06:30 orzeu wrote:
Dyrus build...

He is doing so well, dont understand why he is such a pussy.


What was actually wrong with Dyrus building full tank on Renekton? Like i read this complaining from 3 different places, and i just cant figure what was wrong with it. Even as full tank he has so much threat that people will have to run away from him, and being unkillable while doing so seems like a great idea...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 08:24 GMT
#785
On March 08 2014 17:20 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 06:32 Redox wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:30 orzeu wrote:
Dyrus build...

He is doing so well, dont understand why he is such a pussy.


What was actually wrong with Dyrus building full tank on Renekton? Like i read this complaining from 3 different places, and i just cant figure what was wrong with it. Even as full tank he has so much threat that people will have to run away from him, and being unkillable while doing so seems like a great idea...

Renekton can snowball lane more and hold lane difference much better with an early offensive item.
liftlift > tsm
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
March 08 2014 08:54 GMT
#786
On March 08 2014 17:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 17:20 Gaslo wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:32 Redox wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:30 orzeu wrote:
Dyrus build...

He is doing so well, dont understand why he is such a pussy.


What was actually wrong with Dyrus building full tank on Renekton? Like i read this complaining from 3 different places, and i just cant figure what was wrong with it. Even as full tank he has so much threat that people will have to run away from him, and being unkillable while doing so seems like a great idea...

Renekton can snowball lane more and hold lane difference much better with an early offensive item.


Yeah i can see that, but example Hydra is still 3300 worth of gold that is not invested in tank stats. He did his job just fine going full tank, i cant see what he would of done better with being down 1 tank item, but having more burst...
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 08:59:30
March 08 2014 08:55 GMT
#787
The way I see it, Dyrus has felt so pressured over S3/4 to be consistent and safe. Whenever people talk about Dyrus, that's what they think is his best aspect. In a way, I feel that he's taken that complement and let it stunt his play. When Regi couldn't keep up in competitive play and running the team, it put even more pressure on Dyrus. He started limiting himself on what he allowed himself to do.

In an interview recently, he said that he didn't like to be aggressive in lane. Anybody that has kept an eye on TSM since he joined knows that that isn't true. When it fit and he got Olaf, Vlad, or Jayce, he absolutely wrecked shit. Even when he was on Shen, he made a serious impact. Dyrus could put the team on his back and carried like a motherfucker. However, in effort to keep the team afloat during the twilight of Regi's career he has put limits on himself and painted himself into a corner with his play. The higher the stakes, the more pressure he puts on himself, the harsher he judges himself. Then this week, we hear him talking in an interview about how he spent all week on relearning Renekton. That he wanted to be more of an active influence on the team when Bjergsen comes back. I feel he is finally secure enough in the rest of his team to transition from the "pick mundo and just try passively get through lane" rut that he has put himself in.

If that means he's going to make solid, though less than optimal, item choices for a while so be it. If that means he has to spend a week learning a new champion at a competitive level so be it. What matters to me is that he, eventually, reverts to form where he does play at his peak again using all the talent that I know he has. Dyrus was what kept me interested in the professional scene after Epik split, stupid pillow and all. That's why he's my favorite player.

I don't know, when I started writing this wasn't my goal, but there it is. ^^'
On March 08 2014 17:54 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 17:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2014 17:20 Gaslo wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:32 Redox wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:30 orzeu wrote:
Dyrus build...

He is doing so well, dont understand why he is such a pussy.


What was actually wrong with Dyrus building full tank on Renekton? Like i read this complaining from 3 different places, and i just cant figure what was wrong with it. Even as full tank he has so much threat that people will have to run away from him, and being unkillable while doing so seems like a great idea...

Renekton can snowball lane more and hold lane difference much better with an early offensive item.


Yeah i can see that, but example Hydra is still 3300 worth of gold that is not invested in tank stats. He did his job just fine going full tank, i cant see what he would of done better with being down 1 tank item, but having more burst...

Tiamat alone is enough to really fuck with people. Getting your lane pushed up and can't do anything about it? Have fun with it getting done even faster, letting Renekton free to fuck over the rest of the map too.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 08 2014 12:11 GMT
#788
You don't need a super offensive item to wreck with Renekton. That is the beauty of top laners. Build tank. Still do damage.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4913 Posts
March 08 2014 12:57 GMT
#789
I once built full tank renekton, I felt like I was much stronger lategame than with an offensive item, just because I can soak that much more damage, which is what you need to do with the croco, soak and peel.
Taxes are for Terrans
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 08 2014 12:58 GMT
#790
Technically you can do the same with any champions with good base damage. See Annie (support I guess), Urgot, etc. or even Ahri rushing Abyssal and wrecking shit up 100-0ing people in a breeze.

On March 08 2014 17:54 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 17:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2014 17:20 Gaslo wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:32 Redox wrote:
On March 08 2014 06:30 orzeu wrote:
Dyrus build...

He is doing so well, dont understand why he is such a pussy.


What was actually wrong with Dyrus building full tank on Renekton? Like i read this complaining from 3 different places, and i just cant figure what was wrong with it. Even as full tank he has so much threat that people will have to run away from him, and being unkillable while doing so seems like a great idea...

Renekton can snowball lane more and hold lane difference much better with an early offensive item.


Yeah i can see that, but example Hydra is still 3300 worth of gold that is not invested in tank stats. He did his job just fine going full tank, i cant see what he would of done better with being down 1 tank item, but having more burst...

Tiamat's 1900 gold, but the idea was that by building normally Dyrus wouldn't be able to snowball the lane as hard, and they feared that despite his huge lead Shyvana would still be able to retake the advantage once level 9-11. Didn't happen.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 08 2014 13:26 GMT
#791
On March 08 2014 21:58 Alaric wrote:
Technically you can do the same with any champions with good base damage. See Annie (support I guess), Urgot, etc. or even Ahri rushing Abyssal and wrecking shit up 100-0ing people in a breeze.


Yes, but you aren't unkillable as a Renekton or a Shyvana or a Mundo might be.

God top lane is dumb.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 08 2014 13:30 GMT
#792
Smash Renekton's early power and a lot of top laners would come back to popularity, they're just shut down too hard by the goddamn croc and he doesn't fall off hard enough anymore, pretty much why only Shyvana is sent against him (and her late-game scaling is really huge).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 08 2014 13:38 GMT
#793
I'd just be happy if top Vlad came back as a thing.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 08 2014 15:11 GMT
#794
On March 08 2014 22:30 Alaric wrote:
Smash Renekton's early power and a lot of top laners would come back to popularity, they're just shut down too hard by the goddamn croc and he doesn't fall off hard enough anymore, pretty much why only Shyvana is sent against him (and her late-game scaling is really huge).


You can easily pick Jayce against Renekton and smash him.
I'm still waiting for good old Jayce/Kha'Zix with tears, especially after new patch or Jayce/Nidalee.
Won't be surprised though if CLG pull that trick from sleeve.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 15:14 GMT
#795
On March 09 2014 00:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 22:30 Alaric wrote:
Smash Renekton's early power and a lot of top laners would come back to popularity, they're just shut down too hard by the goddamn croc and he doesn't fall off hard enough anymore, pretty much why only Shyvana is sent against him (and her late-game scaling is really huge).


You can easily pick Jayce against Renekton and smash him.
I'm still waiting for good old Jayce/Kha'Zix with tears, especially after new patch or Jayce/Nidalee.
Won't be surprised though if CLG pull that trick from sleeve.

lol. Jayce can't beat Renekton.
And tear buff isn't significant in lowering full tear stacking timing significantly to warrant more Jayce+Kha'ziks.
liftlift > tsm
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 08 2014 15:17 GMT
#796
the jayce+kha thing seems like a lategame play. the damage is so high
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 15:51:31
March 08 2014 15:51 GMT
#797
On March 09 2014 00:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 08 2014 22:30 Alaric wrote:
Smash Renekton's early power and a lot of top laners would come back to popularity, they're just shut down too hard by the goddamn croc and he doesn't fall off hard enough anymore, pretty much why only Shyvana is sent against him (and her late-game scaling is really huge).


You can easily pick Jayce against Renekton and smash him.
I'm still waiting for good old Jayce/Kha'Zix with tears, especially after new patch or Jayce/Nidalee.
Won't be surprised though if CLG pull that trick from sleeve.

lol. Jayce can't beat Renekton.
And tear buff isn't significant in lowering full tear stacking timing significantly to warrant more Jayce+Kha'ziks.


Lol k.
Also Renekton doesn't have matchups where he loses, right?

You can hit manamune on Kha'Zix and Jayce at 8-9th minute, after it you get muramana at ~25. It was stable even before last tear patch.
Now you can do it even earlier, at ~22.
Slam'n'jam after it.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 16:16 GMT
#798
Please. Explain to me how 500 range form is suppose to beat renekton, muchless his hammer form when you have to invest 700 in laning phase for a non combat stat item.
liftlift > tsm
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
March 08 2014 17:40 GMT
#799
You guys remember we saw Jayce/Kha yesterday right? No tears, but it was used to effectively beat Zion on Jax and Shiphtur on Kass. It's already coming back, even without tear stacking on both champs.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 17:55:33
March 08 2014 17:54 GMT
#800
On March 09 2014 01:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Please. Explain to me how 500 range form is suppose to beat renekton, muchless his hammer form when you have to invest 700 in laning phase for a non combat stat item.


Go, try to fight Jayce who maxes W without ult on Renekton.
I will watch it.
And compare cooldowns after it.

On March 09 2014 02:40 Swords wrote:
You guys remember we saw Jayce/Kha yesterday right? No tears, but it was used to effectively beat Zion on Jax and Shiphtur on Kass. It's already coming back, even without tear stacking on both champs.


Scarra got R-E-Q, not W-E-R evolutions.
Whole idea is about poke in midgame, lvl 16 is hitting later than 25th minute which i meant before.
So it's a bit different.

They ran Eve-Kha'Zix-Annie, it's a pick comp.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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