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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#1201
That gank on scarra. Typical Veigar.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#1202
On February 17 2014 06:56 Ente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 06:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Ente wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote:
So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot?


It does but if people get tenacity you will not hit e into w without a maxed e In addition to that Veigars E is one of the best non ultimate CCs in the whole game, its crazy good

2.5s stun. Longer than Fiddle fear and Rammus taunt, and those are single target.

Morg binding is the only thing longer (I believe), and it isn't AoE.

Ashe arrow is (potentially) Longer

Need to be at least half-a map tho.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#1203
On February 17 2014 06:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Worst game I've been by qtpie.


I think there was a misclick when he took that early damage and then he went on tilt.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#1204
I don't care how many times it has been brought up; every time the fucking crowd cheers for a ward kill my eye twitches.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
February 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#1205
Can't believe Balls flashed for that o.O seemed unnecessary
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#1206
On February 17 2014 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
That gank on scarra. Typical Veigar.

well no sidelane pressure means only 1 spot for meteos to gank.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 16 2014 21:57 GMT
#1207
On February 17 2014 06:53 phathom321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote:
So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot?

Doesn't veigar's W have a 1.0 ap ratio? I'd be my guess that at with a ratio so high the damage it from extra points isn't very high in comparison to the extra AP from kills with his Q or extra stun duration from E.


His W only increases base damage and mana cost; it does not reduce its cooldown.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
February 16 2014 21:58 GMT
#1208
wait did scarra fail flash? couldnt see it that well
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 21:59:04
February 16 2014 21:58 GMT
#1209
Dat Veigar, working as planned.
cruzer plz....
liftlift > tsm
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
February 16 2014 21:58 GMT
#1210
On February 17 2014 06:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 06:53 phathom321 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote:
So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot?

Doesn't veigar's W have a 1.0 ap ratio? I'd be my guess that at with a ratio so high the damage it from extra points isn't very high in comparison to the extra AP from kills with his Q or extra stun duration from E.


His W only increases base damage and mana cost; it does not reduce its cooldown.

Yeah that's what I was trying to say, I need to reread my posts more often. I forget words too often >_<
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 16 2014 21:59 GMT
#1211
Cruzer pls
Glorious SEA doto
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
February 16 2014 21:59 GMT
#1212
Cruzer
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 16 2014 21:59 GMT
#1213
The Meteos Balls factor too strong.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 16 2014 21:59 GMT
#1214
about 10 more minutes until Scarra has his dfg
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 16 2014 22:00 GMT
#1215
Talisman for C9 and Mundo already neutered, as soon as C9 groups Dig is toast imo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 16 2014 22:00 GMT
#1216
It's funny that Veigar is working fine, but the rest of Dig decided this was the game to fuck up really hard (aside from Crumbz).
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
February 16 2014 22:00 GMT
#1217
It's fascinating to see Dig having so good Dragon control when that was C9's hallmark.

Still, the sheer kills on C9 are likely better at this point in terms of exp and CS.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
February 16 2014 22:00 GMT
#1218
On February 17 2014 06:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't care how many times it has been brought up; every time the fucking crowd cheers for a ward kill my eye twitches.


I don't understand why more people don't watch on mute. The majority of the time, the casters don't give you more insight into certain plays than what you see anyways. Even the best casters really can't do this yet for LoL. For example, they don't really focus on skill builds more than a cursory glance to talk about during dead air. They don't explain a lot of whys, and just comment on actions made. So mute is best option
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 16 2014 22:01 GMT
#1219
Qtpie dies 2 times in lane super hard, down 40cs. still more gold than sneakycastro.
fucking sneaky.
liftlift > tsm
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 16 2014 22:01 GMT
#1220
On February 17 2014 07:00 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 06:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't care how many times it has been brought up; every time the fucking crowd cheers for a ward kill my eye twitches.


I don't understand why more people don't watch on mute. The majority of the time, the casters don't give you more insight into certain plays than what you see anyways. Even the best casters really can't do this yet for LoL. For example, they don't really focus on skill builds more than a cursory glance to talk about during dead air. They don't explain a lot of whys, and just comment on actions made. So mute is best option

Silence is boring.
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