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ketchup
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Nos-
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wei2coolman
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chalice
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wei2coolman
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On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote: So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot? It's actually pretty rare to land the W on Veigar, the only reason to get some points in it is for wave clear, the teamfight presence of the E is much more important. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On February 17 2014 06:51 Lylat wrote: Yeah I thought I heard that long time ago but couldn't remember, thanks basically becasue W is virtually impossible to hit on a champion without 2 points in stun, casting Q tell them "I can't do anything if you attack me now" | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote: So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot? W has a huge AP ratio anyway, and you won't hit it if you don't put more levels into E because the stun won't last long enough. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On February 17 2014 06:51 Nos- wrote: meteos is everywhere I feel like c9 does this lvl 6-7 gank 2v1 top gank every game and they get the kill everytime. | ||
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phathom321
United States1730 Posts
On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote: So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot? Doesn't veigar's W have a 1.0 ap ratio? I'd be my guess that with a ratio so high the damage it gets from extra points isn't very good in comparison to the extra AP from kills with his Q or extra stun duration from E. | ||
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wei2coolman
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Ente
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On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote: So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot? It does but if people get tenacity you will not hit e into w without a maxed e In addition to that Veigars E is one of the best non ultimate CCs in the whole game, its crazy good | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On February 17 2014 06:51 ketchup wrote: So speaking of veigar. I was randomly watching Scarra's stream, and he seems to max E(event horizon) second rather than getting one or two more points into the W(dark matter) earlier and somewhat splitting it up. He had only 1 point in W for the majority of the game. I looked up veigar on probuilds.net, and it showed the same pattern by scarra(He gets his second point of W at level 14). Is there a reason for that? I don't quite understand why he chooses to max E over W(that is aside from Level 5 event horizon being a full second longer stun duration). My question being, doesn't it delays veigar's damage by a lot? I feel like Ws strong AP scaling and tough time actually hitting it make additional points in it... errr... pointless | ||
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Swords
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Alaric
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wei2coolman
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Vlat, plz. slap some commonsense in! | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On February 17 2014 06:53 Ente wrote: It does but if people get tenacity you will not hit e into w without a maxed e In addition to that Veigars E is one of the best non ultimate CCs in the whole game, its crazy good 2.5s stun. Longer than Fiddle fear and Rammus taunt, and those are single target. Morg binding is the only thing longer (I believe), and it isn't AoE. | ||
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ketchup
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On February 17 2014 06:53 Ente wrote: It does but if people get tenacity you will not hit e into w without a maxed e In addition to that Veigars E is one of the best non ultimate CCs in the whole game, its crazy good Wow, a lot of people responded. Thanks for the response. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
Edit: scratch the Mundo part I am retarded mundo is in his team | ||
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Ente
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On February 17 2014 06:55 Lord Tolkien wrote: 2.5s stun. Longer than Fiddle fear and Rammus taunt, and those are single target. Morg binding is the only thing longer (I believe), and it isn't AoE. Ashe arrow is (potentially) Longer | ||
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