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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:38 Disengaged wrote: They disappeared when Xmithie was no longer in the jungle to carry Mancloud. Basically. Without Xmithie to faciliate his super-yolo midgame play, he's been pretty sub-par now. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:39 Redox wrote: Ok we can not put this one on Zuna lol. 2 late bro. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:32 MattBarry wrote: Interesting, I'm pretty sick of watching Trundle ult tanks and become unkillable. How does Jax do against him? Trundle super annoying, but if you manage to get to 6 without too many problems, double-tap -> Q+auto on his ass still harasses him hard without letting him abuse you with long trades. I don't know if BotRK would do better, but I always go triforce->tank on Jax nowadays. You can hit 6 first and throw him out with an all-in, but it's not necessarily easy to outpush him and time it right, while having the HP/mana though. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:39 Woony wrote: to be fair, he was like an entirely different player last season No, he was just really overrated. He wasn't good and they got 3rd thanks to xmithie's early game. There were so many times mancloud got a good start and then failed to carry where other top world class players would have. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:36 Woony wrote: It was predictable though. I was very into SC2 around release but became disillusioned pretty quick at the end of 2010. It was very apparent that SC2 had failed in Korea, LoL was already getting huge numbers in early 2011 (I remember 100k+ for a CLG vs. TSM scrim, there wasn't a lot of stuff going on back then though) and honestly Blizzard's behaviour is and was just predictable from how they treated their other games like WC3 and WoW Arena. Riot and LoL owes a lot to Regi and Hotshot. Those two were pioneers. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:40 Itsmedudeman wrote: No, he was just really overrated. He wasn't good and they got 3rd thanks to xmithie's early game. There were so many times mancloud got a good start and then failed to carry where other top world class players would have. I've never heard anyone claim he is a world class mid player but he wasn't nearly this bad. I mean even the koreans were impressed by him at worlds. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:41 caelym wrote: Riot and LoL owes a lot to Regi and Hotshot. Those two were pioneers. I think the community would have found others, but Regi and Hotshot do deserve props yes. Same goes for all the other guys and all the fans who have been there ever since before S1. | ||
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skykh
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:42 BrownBear wrote: Man, the announcers are kinda shitting on Mancloud. Lol, they're going easy on him compared to how bad he's playing. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:34 Doctorbeat wrote: I think the big thing is that Blizzard's main source of income wasn't SC2, whilst for Riot LoL was everything. Blizz likes milking out WoW/D3 more, and with Hearthstone they will probably have a better profiting game than SC2 is. To an extent I agree. Perhaps Blizzard could have made more money by doing a better job of investing into it as an esport, or maybe even changed their game in order to make more money from it without hurting the experience.. but even ignoring that they didn't do some very simple things like bring attention to tournaments by advertising it to players. Why did it take them such an incredibly long time just to get to the point where they would post it on the first screen after you log in? (which people don't really notice as it was in the corner) On top of that they really messed up with Bnet 2.0 with chat rooms and custom games which definitely hurt the casual experience, losing them many more players in that regard. I know that was the case for my friends and eventually me. I played WC3 for years mostly because of the custom games, and I know I'm not alone on that. Perhaps I shouldn't be going on about this in this thread though.. I'm not sure if people care or not. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Such a poor split for him. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
Oh god the Grackis. I kinda miss him, in a weird way. Those were the days, when LoL GD was less of a cesspool and cool people even posted in it. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:41 beefhamburger wrote: I'd go BotRK over TF so he can sustain with Trundle in lane. Yeah, my reasoning is that triforce is more damage in most cases, way more burst to abuse the usual R passive (I also max Q to burst harder, and make it easier to harass everytime it's up and zone the opponent if he's behind), and stronger in teamfights, so if I can make it work with my playstyle (eg. harass Trundle relentlessly but don't let him leverage his Q and W who make his dps strong) I avoid building it. If you don't get ahead early you'll need BotRK to 1v1 him. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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