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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 15 2014 22:39 GMT
#441
On February 16 2014 07:38 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Where are the people who said mancloud was world class? I remember there used to be so many of them.


They disappeared when Xmithie was no longer in the jungle to carry Mancloud.

Basically. Without Xmithie to faciliate his super-yolo midgame play, he's been pretty sub-par now.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 15 2014 22:39 GMT
#442
On February 16 2014 07:39 Redox wrote:
Ok we can not put this one on Zuna lol.


2 late bro.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2014 22:40 GMT
#443
On February 16 2014 07:32 MattBarry wrote:
Interesting, I'm pretty sick of watching Trundle ult tanks and become unkillable. How does Jax do against him?

Trundle super annoying, but if you manage to get to 6 without too many problems, double-tap -> Q+auto on his ass still harasses him hard without letting him abuse you with long trades. I don't know if BotRK would do better, but I always go triforce->tank on Jax nowadays.

You can hit 6 first and throw him out with an all-in, but it's not necessarily easy to outpush him and time it right, while having the HP/mana though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 15 2014 22:40 GMT
#444
kakao would've waited for the flash before he shot his cocoon
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
February 15 2014 22:40 GMT
#445
On February 16 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Where are the people who said mancloud was world class? I remember there used to be so many of them.


to be fair, he was like an entirely different player last season

No, he was just really overrated. He wasn't good and they got 3rd thanks to xmithie's early game. There were so many times mancloud got a good start and then failed to carry where other top world class players would have.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 15 2014 22:41 GMT
#446
I'd go BotRK over TF so he can sustain with Trundle in lane.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
February 15 2014 22:41 GMT
#447
On February 16 2014 07:36 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:31 Chicane wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:28 Woony wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:22 Fusilero wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:19 Redox wrote:
I was originally a TL sc2 guy. But the attitude in the sc2 community towards LoL was just so piss poor that I withdrew form there.

I remember TL SC2 spreading around that riot was faking the viewers I was like "wtf"


That was at the S1 finals. It was pretty hilarious. Back when SC2 fanboys still had the delusion of becoming the biggest eSport in the history of everything ever.


Meh I don't think that was an unreasonable prediction, though I am biased because I thought it was possible that SC2 would be the biggest game.

It was looking strong for awhile too, but I would say Blizzard is most at fault. They didn't show nearly as good of support as Riot did when it came to promoting events or even for their own hosted events. On top of that they let the meta get very stale in my opinion. Maps all had to be structured a certain way. Things like broodlord/infestor wasn't changed for a long time even when Blizzard acknowledged it as a problem.


It was predictable though. I was very into SC2 around release but became disillusioned pretty quick at the end of 2010. It was very apparent that SC2 had failed in Korea, LoL was already getting huge numbers in early 2011 (I remember 100k+ for a CLG vs. TSM scrim, there wasn't a lot of stuff going on back then though) and honestly Blizzard's behaviour is and was just predictable from how they treated their other games like WC3 and WoW Arena.

Riot and LoL owes a lot to Regi and Hotshot. Those two were pioneers.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 15 2014 22:42 GMT
#448
Man, the announcers are kinda shitting on Mancloud.
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
February 15 2014 22:42 GMT
#449
On February 16 2014 07:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Where are the people who said mancloud was world class? I remember there used to be so many of them.


to be fair, he was like an entirely different player last season

No, he was just really overrated. He wasn't good and they got 3rd thanks to xmithie's early game. There were so many times mancloud got a good start and then failed to carry where other top world class players would have.


I've never heard anyone claim he is a world class mid player but he wasn't nearly this bad. I mean even the koreans were impressed by him at worlds.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 15 2014 22:43 GMT
#450
On February 16 2014 07:41 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:36 Woony wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:31 Chicane wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:28 Woony wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:22 Fusilero wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:19 Redox wrote:
I was originally a TL sc2 guy. But the attitude in the sc2 community towards LoL was just so piss poor that I withdrew form there.

I remember TL SC2 spreading around that riot was faking the viewers I was like "wtf"


That was at the S1 finals. It was pretty hilarious. Back when SC2 fanboys still had the delusion of becoming the biggest eSport in the history of everything ever.


Meh I don't think that was an unreasonable prediction, though I am biased because I thought it was possible that SC2 would be the biggest game.

It was looking strong for awhile too, but I would say Blizzard is most at fault. They didn't show nearly as good of support as Riot did when it came to promoting events or even for their own hosted events. On top of that they let the meta get very stale in my opinion. Maps all had to be structured a certain way. Things like broodlord/infestor wasn't changed for a long time even when Blizzard acknowledged it as a problem.


It was predictable though. I was very into SC2 around release but became disillusioned pretty quick at the end of 2010. It was very apparent that SC2 had failed in Korea, LoL was already getting huge numbers in early 2011 (I remember 100k+ for a CLG vs. TSM scrim, there wasn't a lot of stuff going on back then though) and honestly Blizzard's behaviour is and was just predictable from how they treated their other games like WC3 and WoW Arena.

Riot and LoL owes a lot to Regi and Hotshot. Those two were pioneers.


I think the community would have found others, but Regi and Hotshot do deserve props yes. Same goes for all the other guys and all the fans who have been there ever since before S1.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
February 15 2014 22:43 GMT
#451
It doesnt matter if they are relegated since na amateur teams are shit , they only hope they wont end last place or they will face lmq.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
February 15 2014 22:43 GMT
#452
On February 16 2014 07:42 BrownBear wrote:
Man, the announcers are kinda shitting on Mancloud.


Lol, they're going easy on him compared to how bad he's playing.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 22:44:34
February 15 2014 22:44 GMT
#453
so Zuna picks a brain dead early game ganker and doesn't gank... COUNTER LOGIC
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 15 2014 22:44 GMT
#454
On February 16 2014 07:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:31 Chicane wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:28 Woony wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:22 Fusilero wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:19 Redox wrote:
I was originally a TL sc2 guy. But the attitude in the sc2 community towards LoL was just so piss poor that I withdrew form there.

I remember TL SC2 spreading around that riot was faking the viewers I was like "wtf"


That was at the S1 finals. It was pretty hilarious. Back when SC2 fanboys still had the delusion of becoming the biggest eSport in the history of everything ever.


Meh I don't think that was an unreasonable prediction, though I am biased because I thought it was possible that SC2 would be the biggest game.

It was looking strong for awhile too, but I would say Blizzard is most at fault. They didn't show nearly as good of support as Riot did when it came to promoting events or even for their own hosted events. On top of that they let the meta get very stale in my opinion. Maps all had to be structured a certain way. Things like broodlord/infestor wasn't changed for a long time even when Blizzard acknowledged it as a problem.

Meh...


I think the big thing is that Blizzard's main source of income wasn't SC2, whilst for Riot LoL was everything. Blizz likes milking out WoW/D3 more, and with Hearthstone they will probably have a better profiting game than SC2 is.


To an extent I agree. Perhaps Blizzard could have made more money by doing a better job of investing into it as an esport, or maybe even changed their game in order to make more money from it without hurting the experience.. but even ignoring that they didn't do some very simple things like bring attention to tournaments by advertising it to players. Why did it take them such an incredibly long time just to get to the point where they would post it on the first screen after you log in? (which people don't really notice as it was in the corner)

On top of that they really messed up with Bnet 2.0 with chat rooms and custom games which definitely hurt the casual experience, losing them many more players in that regard. I know that was the case for my friends and eventually me. I played WC3 for years mostly because of the custom games, and I know I'm not alone on that.

Perhaps I shouldn't be going on about this in this thread though.. I'm not sure if people care or not.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 22:45:37
February 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#455
Hotshott, Regi and Grackis.



:D
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#456
I feel for mancloud. :<
Such a poor split for him.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 22:46:29
February 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#457
Godwater carrying XDG there.

Oh god the Grackis. I kinda miss him, in a weird way.

Those were the days, when LoL GD was less of a cesspool and cool people even posted in it.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#458
On February 16 2014 07:41 beefhamburger wrote:
I'd go BotRK over TF so he can sustain with Trundle in lane.

Yeah, my reasoning is that triforce is more damage in most cases, way more burst to abuse the usual R passive (I also max Q to burst harder, and make it easier to harass everytime it's up and zone the opponent if he's behind), and stronger in teamfights, so if I can make it work with my playstyle (eg. harass Trundle relentlessly but don't let him leverage his Q and W who make his dps strong) I avoid building it. If you don't get ahead early you'll need BotRK to 1v1 him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
February 15 2014 22:46 GMT
#459
Great Thresh flay
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 15 2014 22:46 GMT
#460
LOL ZUNA THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY TAKEN HAHAAHAH
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