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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:01 Kenpark wrote: I´m just so sad we prob wont see much of Cloud9. They prob get 2:0 by some chinese/korean team and still ride the hype train another year. Would love to see the mvp of na try Nasus vs sb like Diamond. Not sure how you could say they'd just get 2-0'd after seeing the games so far. | ||
ManBaker
1943 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:00 Flakes wrote: The strong wording of your Fnatic/Gambit predictions compelled me to look at the w/l chart of EU LCS matchups, since I hadn't really been following that scene. Now I have a headache. How did that even happen? (the Fnatic/Gambit/SK rock-paper-scissors). Is there a general opinion on how those teams' playstyles produced those results? In Gambit's case is a matter of mental block. They basically declared themselves as unable to beat Fnatic and ever since then they try to pull off improbable shit comps to "surprise Fnatic". Comps including: Midlane Yi, Xin and top Malphite (played like 2 times by Darien since ever), midlane Galio, jungle Karma + toplane Evelynn, and the now recent Shyvana top + jungle Xin + midlane TF with 0 synergy with those 2 divers | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:05 Itsmedudeman wrote: Not sure how you could say they'd just get 2-0'd after seeing the games so far. I think the only team c9 can match up with as far as who comes out of the groups would be fnatic if they come out and maybe Ozone if they keep sucking. They will get roflstomped by omg. They won't beat SKT1. They'll lose to Gambit. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:09 ManBaker wrote: In Gambit's case is a matter of mental block. They basically declared themselves as unable to beat Fnatic and ever since then they try to pull off improbable shit comps to "surprise Fnatic". Comps including: Midlane Yi, Xin and top Malphite (played like 2 times by Darien since ever), midlane Galio, jungle Karma + toplane Evelynn, and the now recent Shyvana top + jungle Xin + midlane TF with 0 synergy with those 2 divers That's disappointing, Gambit's victory over Ozone gave me the impression that their strategic thinking was fairly good (it was clear that they formulated their strategy based on Ozone's victory over Vulcan earlier that day). Most of this C9 speculation is meh, their performance comes down to who they are scrimming with, and how much imo | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
Fnatic had absolutly nothing to stop shyvana from pushing the open inhib, and the 4 others of Gambit champions are extremely good at defending towers. fnatic had a very good team to dive sure, but Gambit should have at least tryed the 1 4 split imo... | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:19 Zergneedsfood wrote: I think the only team c9 can match up with as far as who comes out of the groups would be fnatic if they come out and maybe Ozone if they keep sucking. They will get roflstomped by omg. They won't beat SKT1. They'll lose to Gambit. TSM had decent games against both OMG and SKT T1. | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:14 Kiett wrote: nah, the clear secret to fnatic's success is yolostar on leona. picked 3 times, 3 wins. 100% victory. leona has the highest win rate of any champ with more than 1 game at worlds. Leona 4 lyf. I'm a support main Leona player  (recently demoted to Silver IV, unfortunately) | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:24 Itsmedudeman wrote: TSM had decent games against both OMG and SKT T1. "decent" You're comparing C9 stomping TSM when they've played against TSM all split, scrim against TSM all the time, know TSM's weakness in and out..... To TSM posting average to decent at best results against international teams who had never played TSM before...... lol | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: "decent" You're comparing C9 stomping TSM when they've played against TSM all split, scrim against TSM all the time, know TSM's weakness in and out..... To TSM posting average to decent at best results against international teams who had never played TSM before...... lol Doesn't sound very pro-town dude.... I formal ZNF | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:23 SagaZ wrote: I actually think that Gambit had the game vs fnatic. They had a road to victory pretty well defined after taking that random top inhib but failed to see it and just stood around doing nothing and died. Fnatic had absolutly nothing to stop shyvana from pushing the open inhib, and the 4 others of Gambit champions are extremely good at defending towers. fnatic had a very good team to dive sure, but Gambit should have at least tryed the 1 4 split imo... I dunno, it's hard to get to an inhib without having the outers down in the other 2 lanes. Fnatic got huge map control by taking the 3 outers, then had a huge vision presence because it was easy for them to ward. Gambit had a much steeper task with no outer turrets and it showed; they got caught, they couldn't press objectives, and it was hard to execute the splitpush plan under the circumstances. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: "decent" You're comparing C9 stomping TSM when they've played against TSM all split, scrim against TSM all the time, know TSM's weakness in and out..... To TSM posting average to decent at best results against international teams who had never played TSM before...... lol tbh TSM with all their streaming and publicity seems pretty easy to prepare against (at least in terms of individual skill and comfort picks) On that note, TSM's faults in their recent losses looked mostly mechanical- and coordination-related, both of which could be fixed with less streaming yoloq and more regimented 5-man practice that the koreans are known for | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:36 Flakes wrote: tbh TSM with all their streaming and publicity seems pretty easy to prepare against. On that note, TSM's faults in their recent losses looked mostly mechanical- and coordination-related, both of which could be fixed with less streaming yoloq and more regimented 5-man practice that the koreans are known for Did it really look like OMG/SKT1 prepared/watched for TSM? Also lol, they always talk about their mechanics... They never get better. TSM is just well known for being stubborn and super clutch/good at LANs. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:24 Itsmedudeman wrote: TSM had decent games against both OMG and SKT T1. That's just because our expectations were so low that it looks like they did alright when in fact it was pretty much a stomp. OMG game they just kind of chilled out a bit too hard which made it seem like TSM had some fight. SKT were never in danger of ever not winning. I do think TSM will do better than C9 against both those teams. C9 fails way too early in early game against NA teams for me to have any confidence in them against OMG/SKT. They would fair a lot better against Group B teams I think. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:48 Dgiese wrote: Damn, I got ignored hard... it's over between us ZNF... totally lynching you next wednesday... I don't care how strong your town reads on me are! DUDE, I was asking for you on Skype. I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU HAHAHAHAHA | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 20 2013 09:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: "decent" You're comparing C9 stomping TSM when they've played against TSM all split, scrim against TSM all the time, know TSM's weakness in and out..... To TSM posting average to decent at best results against international teams who had never played TSM before...... lol And TSM could do the same to C9? | ||
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