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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 18 2013 17:00 GMT
#8501
On September 19 2013 01:59 Lysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 01:54 kainzero wrote:
he got chased out of a fight by a support zyra? are you kidding me


That part killed me.
It was a totally underwhelming gragas performance. But at least his KDA was on point.

Report Dyrus for feeding. Dunno why Gragas + rumble combo though, seems likes such a bad combo, bad ulti synergy.
liftlift > tsm
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 18 2013 17:03 GMT
#8502
On September 19 2013 01:09 Don_Julio wrote:
I'm expecting Ozone to win at least once tonight. And Fnatic or Gambit will get upset by one of the underdogs, because EU. The group will be wide open again if both things happen.


I hate to disappoint you, but I can 100% guarantee that Ozone will not win a single game tonight.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 18 2013 17:03 GMT
#8503
On September 19 2013 02:03 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 01:09 Don_Julio wrote:
I'm expecting Ozone to win at least once tonight. And Fnatic or Gambit will get upset by one of the underdogs, because EU. The group will be wide open again if both things happen.


I hate to disappoint you, but I can 100% guarantee that Ozone will not win a single game tonight.

Neither will Gambit, or fnatic, or vulcun, or mineski.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 18 2013 17:05 GMT
#8504
You guys are so funny
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 18 2013 17:06 GMT
#8505
On September 19 2013 02:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 01:59 Lysteria wrote:
On September 19 2013 01:54 kainzero wrote:
he got chased out of a fight by a support zyra? are you kidding me


That part killed me.
It was a totally underwhelming gragas performance. But at least his KDA was on point.

Report Dyrus for feeding. Dunno why Gragas + rumble combo though, seems likes such a bad combo, bad ulti synergy.

It has decent synergy. Explosive Cask to separate the team, Equalizer to prevent them from regrouping.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 18 2013 17:08 GMT
#8506
Big hit to Rumble's DPS though. I'd rather just trap them in a Cataclysm and watch Equalizer melt health bars lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 18 2013 17:08 GMT
#8507
On September 19 2013 02:06 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 02:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 19 2013 01:59 Lysteria wrote:
On September 19 2013 01:54 kainzero wrote:
he got chased out of a fight by a support zyra? are you kidding me


That part killed me.
It was a totally underwhelming gragas performance. But at least his KDA was on point.

Report Dyrus for feeding. Dunno why Gragas + rumble combo though, seems likes such a bad combo, bad ulti synergy.

It has decent synergy. Explosive Cask to separate the team, Equalizer to prevent them from regrouping.

then you're forgoing a lot of equalizers damage to do so.
liftlift > tsm
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 18 2013 17:16 GMT
#8508
hahahaha this probably takes the cake for wrong names

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1mn9sy/interview_with_madlife_kt_t1s_bot_duo_is_quite/

SKT-KT merger incoming: SKT Rolster B1 imo
Writer:o
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 18 2013 17:17 GMT
#8509
On September 19 2013 01:23 Lysanias wrote:
LD will need more stage experience to be able to get that little bit of extra that a TSM/Gambit/Fnatic can pull out.
there mentality is still that they are to impressed and settle for qualified for next season all else is a bonus and just have fun.

I like there games, they have great potential for future worlds but they are not there yet. Kinda like Vulcan really, imo a better team then TSM if they can just bring that little bit extra on a stage.
Oh well, Group A is all but over.

Group B will be fun to watch for sure, with 2 day's of rest i wanne see how OMG is recovering from there bad games.



Mostly agree, but then again a year is a long time. A lot of stuff can happen-- a team may look on a good trajectory for months, then all of a sudden implode.

On September 19 2013 02:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 02:06 kainzero wrote:
On September 19 2013 02:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 19 2013 01:59 Lysteria wrote:
On September 19 2013 01:54 kainzero wrote:
he got chased out of a fight by a support zyra? are you kidding me


That part killed me.
It was a totally underwhelming gragas performance. But at least his KDA was on point.

Report Dyrus for feeding. Dunno why Gragas + rumble combo though, seems likes such a bad combo, bad ulti synergy.

It has decent synergy. Explosive Cask to separate the team, Equalizer to prevent them from regrouping.

then you're forgoing a lot of equalizers damage to do so.


Eh, it really depends what kind of comp you're looking for. There's a lot of situations with big AOE's where deterrence can be just as effective as the damage.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#8510
On September 19 2013 02:16 Kiett wrote:
hahahaha this probably takes the cake for wrong names

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1mn9sy/interview_with_madlife_kt_t1s_bot_duo_is_quite/

SKT-KT merger incoming: SKT Rolster B1 imo

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WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#8511
On September 19 2013 02:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
Big hit to Rumble's DPS though. I'd rather just trap them in a Cataclysm and watch Equalizer melt health bars lol

On their team you could only really trap Zyra.

I'm not saying it's the best synergy but there is definitely potential to divide and isolate with Gragas/Rumble, and then you have incredible burst from Elise/Corki.

I've had doubts with Gragas + other AoE synergy but there are plenty of times I've seen where it worked wonderfully. Gragas + Kennen is one I've seen, there was also an IH where we had Gragas/Amumu/Sona.

TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 18 2013 17:33 GMT
#8512
On September 19 2013 01:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
MonteCristo ‏@ggCMonteCristo 7h

Might start adding more lifestyle content to my Tumblr since I have had many comments on my fashion and shave. Any thoughts?

Soon we can all dress fresh like Monte.
Show nested quote +
Funny story told by OMG's coach. Apparently after the team arrived in LA, OMG's coach was able to contact and set up scrims with most of the other teams. However, when OMG approached SKT, SKT said something like no, they did not have time. After Day 1 when OMG beat SKT, SKT's coached approached OMG trying to set up a scrim. OMG's coach told SKT that sorry, their schedule was full.

Something off Reddit, reminds me of the whole NA/EU debacle in allstars.

It's also pretty much exactly what happened at TI2 between iG and Na'Vi during groupstage.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 18 2013 17:34 GMT
#8513
Felt a bit sad for TSM, so many missed opportunities and blunders early game. First tower dive on Renekton was an easy kill if Cocoon landed. They managed to catch Faker and had the kill if OddOne flashed for his Cocoon. Then there were greedy misplays by Dyrus, trying to use Flamespitter 1v2 when his flash is down. OddOne had an easy kill on Caitlyn but he fail flashed.

Xpecial and WildTurtle played really well, but a lackluster showing from everyone else.
I am the Town Medic.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#8514
wow, the vision blind spot thing is even bigger than i thought

[image loading]

apparently neither ward could detect the other in this case. i get that the corner of the wall is kind of in the way, but it only looks like it barely extends into the line... not much of a block. I guess this means you'd probably need at least 2 pinks to make sure dragon is clear of wards, since if SKT had put theirs any further out of the pit, then it wouldn't be able to spot a ward in the dragon pit corner.
Writer:o
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 18 2013 17:57 GMT
#8515
On September 19 2013 02:34 Alzadar wrote:
Felt a bit sad for TSM, so many missed opportunities and blunders early game. First tower dive on Renekton was an easy kill if Cocoon landed. They managed to catch Faker and had the kill if OddOne flashed for his Cocoon. Then there were greedy misplays by Dyrus, trying to use Flamespitter 1v2 when his flash is down. OddOne had an easy kill on Caitlyn but he fail flashed.

Xpecial and WildTurtle played really well, but a lackluster showing from everyone else.


This is a pretty good summary for the game, I feel like TSM had better teamfights and thus would have won if these things didn't happen the way it did. But I guess thats the difference between champions and others.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 18:23:04
September 18 2013 18:22 GMT
#8516
On September 19 2013 02:57 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 02:34 Alzadar wrote:
Felt a bit sad for TSM, so many missed opportunities and blunders early game. First tower dive on Renekton was an easy kill if Cocoon landed. They managed to catch Faker and had the kill if OddOne flashed for his Cocoon. Then there were greedy misplays by Dyrus, trying to use Flamespitter 1v2 when his flash is down. OddOne had an easy kill on Caitlyn but he fail flashed.

Xpecial and WildTurtle played really well, but a lackluster showing from everyone else.


This is a pretty good summary for the game, I feel like TSM had better teamfights and thus would have won if these things didn't happen the way it did. But I guess thats the difference between champions and others.

Take it how you will, but the analyst desk (Jatt, Monte, Krepo, Doublelift) were saying how TSM played the better theoretical game, but failed in execution and mechanics. That is, they had the right idea (early dive, Dyrus backing off the tower anticipating the 3v1 dive, how to play against a pick comp, etc...) but failed in the execution (Xpecial drawing tower aggro too early in dive, Dyrus dying stupidly 1v2 outside T2, facechecking bushes out of impatience, etc...).

I'm inclined to agree.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
September 18 2013 18:31 GMT
#8517
On September 19 2013 03:22 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 02:57 GettingIt wrote:
On September 19 2013 02:34 Alzadar wrote:
Felt a bit sad for TSM, so many missed opportunities and blunders early game. First tower dive on Renekton was an easy kill if Cocoon landed. They managed to catch Faker and had the kill if OddOne flashed for his Cocoon. Then there were greedy misplays by Dyrus, trying to use Flamespitter 1v2 when his flash is down. OddOne had an easy kill on Caitlyn but he fail flashed.

Xpecial and WildTurtle played really well, but a lackluster showing from everyone else.


This is a pretty good summary for the game, I feel like TSM had better teamfights and thus would have won if these things didn't happen the way it did. But I guess thats the difference between champions and others.

Take it how you will, but the analyst desk (Jatt, Monte, Krepo, Doublelift) were saying how TSM played the better theoretical game, but failed in execution and mechanics. That is, they had the right idea (early dive, Dyrus backing off the tower anticipating the 3v1 dive, how to play against a pick comp, etc...) but failed in the execution (Xpecial drawing tower aggro too early in dive, Dyrus dying stupidly 1v2 outside T2, facechecking bushes out of impatience, etc...).

I'm inclined to agree.


Exactly. I posted a few pages earlier, as a SKT fan this game worries me greatly. They showed little-to-no adaption in the two days they've had off since they were murdered by OMG in the early game and had a chance to watch all the other teams in this meta. Staying at that turret 3v1 was absolute suicide.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 18 2013 18:47 GMT
#8518
I think gogoing has the right idea.

If you're in a 1v2, and their holding the wave so that they can dive with impunity with the cannon wave(or even before that) or push the turret, you might as well go take wolves/doubles/wraiths beforehand to get some semblance of farm and xp.

For example, the SKT v TSM game, Dyrus backed off, and basically sat at inner turret at level 1 for the first 4-5 minutes waiting for his turret to die. Might take rumble's entire health bar do to wraiths camp, but it could still be better than trying to get a couple creeps of EXP.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#8519
On September 19 2013 01:54 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 01:26 remedium wrote:
On September 18 2013 20:01 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Just watched the game. Regi just didn't do shit, and didn't die. He was so scared while his team TRIED to do some something.


My thoughts exactly. Regi was beyond worthless in teamfights. He was so scared of having a bad score and getting mocked that he literally took himself out of teamfights once his ult was blown.

he got chased out of a fight by a support zyra? are you kidding me

Yeah, he should sit in melee with next to no health and auto Zyra while all his abilities are on cooldown.

On September 19 2013 02:54 Kiett wrote:
wow, the vision blind spot thing is even bigger than i thought

[image loading]

apparently neither ward could detect the other in this case. i get that the corner of the wall is kind of in the way, but it only looks like it barely extends into the line... not much of a block. I guess this means you'd probably need at least 2 pinks to make sure dragon is clear of wards, since if SKT had put theirs any further out of the pit, then it wouldn't be able to spot a ward in the dragon pit corner.

It''s a trick of the camera, the angle screws up a lot of things. The wards are positioned at the base and not the gem.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#8520
pretty nice interview with Royal Tabe.

Didn't know his english was that good but apparently he's from Hong Kong.

So pumped for his Annie supp but it will be banned 100% (
http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/tabe-discusses-royal-clubs-prep-and-thoughts-on-the-world-teams-6414588/
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