[NA LCS] Summer Week 5 - Page 39

On July 12 2013 10:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:

mancloud played shit and positioned poorly in that game as well

On July 12 2013 10:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Not really, no, they didn't play that well. Any NA team would've won that vs Zuna lol. It's not hard to win with a 10k gold deficit when it's 5v4.

On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol

On July 12 2013 11:04 Lysteria wrote:


Considering almost all the teams are so scared when they are behind, I would have said no other NA team would have won that. C9 wasn't scared, they were patient. Zuna didn't especially played worse than usual, it's just usually he doesn't have the opportunity to show us how bad he is.

On July 12 2013 11:04 Lysteria wrote:


Considering almost all the teams are so scared when they are behind, I would have said no other NA team would have won that. C9 wasn't scared, they were patient. Zuna didn't especially played worse than usual, it's just usually he doesn't have the opportunity to show us how bad he is.

On July 12 2013 11:05 ReketSomething wrote:
It's amazing how good C9 and CLG's mindset is despite being behind. It really shows from these endurance battles! C9 is almost always behind in kills early and yet they always win

C9 fighting!

On July 12 2013 11:07 Kuja900 wrote:


I've never heard someone talk about clg like that before. They notorious for getting mad at each other and raging mid game.

On July 12 2013 11:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


I mean, C9 just played their normal game. They didn't do anything impressive from their deficit situation, didn't make any brilliant calls or picks or mechanical executions, they just played a normal game and Zuna just happened to suicide every time.

C9 didn't play -bad- after the atrocious early game, but they didn't play well either. They played on par for the latter half and terribly for the first half, which averages out to playing poorly overall.

On July 12 2013 11:02 RagequitBM wrote:


That's a very blunt statement. Sometimes you just gotta give a team credit. Zuna messed up. Cloud 9 also played well to get to the position where they were. It is not easy to win from their position, no matter the team.

On July 12 2013 11:09 beefhamburger wrote:

Agreed. You are highly overestimating NA teams in knowing what they are "supposed" to do in a game. Most/All NA teams can hardly control lanes properly or know how to tower dive, and most obviously even know when to do (or not to do) Baron. C9 had to do sooooo many things right that game for that comeback to happen. Sure, you could just say turtle up and farm and pick off anyone you can, but NA teams have shown us time and time again that they are just not capable of doing something like that. C9 also played the teamfights very well, taking out key targets and having much better positioning than most/all other NA teams. I guarantee that even if Zuna did those positioning errors vs other teams, none of them (except maybe 1 or 2 teams on a good day) would have the level of execution to pull what was necessary. And this is coming from non-C9 fan. Vulcun/Zuna threw but C9 do deserve some credit for doing what they "should" do, which most NA teams currently aren't able to.

On July 12 2013 11:09 beefhamburger wrote:

Agreed. You are highly overestimating NA teams in knowing what they are "supposed" to do in a game. Most/All NA teams can hardly control lanes properly or know how to tower dive, and most obviously even know when to do (or not to do) Baron. C9 had to do sooooo many things right that game for that comeback to happen. Sure, you could just say turtle up and farm and pick off anyone you can, but NA teams have shown us time and time again that they are just not capable of doing something like that. C9 also played the teamfights very well, taking out key targets and having much better positioning than most/all other NA teams. I guarantee that even if Zuna did those positioning errors vs other teams, none of them (except maybe 1 or 2 teams on a good day) would have the level of execution to pull what was necessary. And this is coming from non-C9 fan. Vulcun/Zuna threw but C9 do deserve some credit for doing what they "should" do, which most NA teams currently aren't able to.

On July 12 2013 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:
CLG could have won that in that position; Curse as well (Look at Spring split vs GGU game); TSM as well. A lot of the veteran teams have and could do it.

On July 12 2013 11:09 ImmortalTofu wrote:
Eh. It's just disappointing to me how little effect adc has these days... Solo laners now have the tankiness and burst to render them irrelevant, and they're basically only used for objectives unless they get SUPER SUPER far ahead. Even then they're too susceptible to instagibs, seen esp with QT and Patoy. Honestly, I feel that support has more fight impact these days than adc, like with Godwater... I think its just because with more upfront damage people were much more susceptible to blow-ups and dives weren't as viable...

On July 12 2013 11:12 Lysteria wrote:


CLG with Chauster on a good day, why not.
TSM would have died so badly 10 min before even have the opportunity of jumping on Zuna. And I don't want to talk about Curse, my heart is still bleeding.

Those teams could have won the fights where Zuna was caught pants down, sure, but I would have said it's unlikely they would have lived long enough to grab those opportunities to begin with. That patience and defence from Cloud 9 for what felt like an eternity was really good.

On July 12 2013 11:16 nafta wrote:
Also going to 7/5 or w/e as a 7/0 jungler is kinda pathetic lol.He was even lower level than meteos for most of the game.That really shouldn't happen lol.