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On July 12 2013 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:50 nafta wrote: Dunno if people noticed but mancloud could've easily won the 1v1 but he kinda gold carded a minion. I'm pretty sure it was running out and Hai was waiting on it actually He tossed it as it was running out, at which point Hai just pressed R.
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On July 12 2013 10:48 RagequitBM wrote: C9 has amazing teamfighting. Wow, I'm shocked.
Zuna having sloppy positioning helped too I suppose. Add in his trash decision-making when it comes to playing aggressively.
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C9 are gods. Best team NA for sure.
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On July 12 2013 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:50 nafta wrote: Dunno if people noticed but mancloud could've easily won the 1v1 but he kinda gold carded a minion. I'm pretty sure it was running out and Hai was waiting on it actually
Yeah, I thought he purposefully hit the minion to just get the CD down faster.
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A great comeback requires excellent play on part of the team that is coming back and less than optimal play from the team that was ahead - that is what we saw in that game.
Xmithie and Zuna were SO HUGE in the midgame but C9 just dug in and did not allow them to take an insurmountable lead. Vulcun never got off the decisive teamfight that they needed to seal it, they tried, but never got it.
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Hmm guess I wasn't looking at it's cd thought he pulled it way later >.>.It doesn't really matter much doe.
Bring back aphro plox.
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On July 12 2013 10:51 TheSinisterRed wrote: C9 are gods. Best team NA for sure. We will see "gods and Best team NA" against OGN teams.
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I'm glad I'm not the only person who saw Zuna playing like shit past 25 minutes even with a 6 item trist.
Jumping to secure kills and failing, absolutely terrible positioning and letting an ashe hit him without retribution hell, even the inhib fight where two GAs popped was laughable when balls literally got up in front of him and still got away
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On July 12 2013 10:51 TheSinisterRed wrote: C9 are gods. Best team NA for sure. C9's early game looks so suspect sometimes though; still can't believe they won that... The Eve was fed too.. How da fuq.
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I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol
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They fed Zuna and not MCloud. That's how da fuq. Relying on one of the worst adc's in the NA region is bad policy. Especially in an era where solo laners rule all
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This is why Turret/Dragon > Kills, especially before the most recent patch. The Gold difference for multiple kills really lets comebacks happen.
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On July 12 2013 10:55 cLutZ wrote: This is why Turret/Dragon > Kills, especially before the most recent patch. The Gold difference for multiple kills really lets comebacks happen. It was still like a 12k gold lead after the first team wipe AND the baron.
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On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol
You don't think they played well at all? Most NA teams wouldn't have been able to come back when down 1-11 and 10k gold.
Yes vulcan threw, but give them some credit for playing it out well.
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On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol
Yeah, Zuna, this split especially has just been so ridiculously underwhelming.
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On July 12 2013 10:57 petered wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol You don't think they played well at all? Most NA teams wouldn't have been able to come back when down 1-11 and 10k gold. Yes vulcan threw, but give them some credit for playing it out well.
Not really, no, they didn't play that well. Any NA team would've won that vs Zuna lol. It's not hard to win with a 10k gold deficit when it's 5v4.
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On July 12 2013 10:54 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:51 TheSinisterRed wrote: C9 are gods. Best team NA for sure. C9's early game looks so suspect sometimes though; still can't believe they won that... The Eve was fed too.. How da fuq.
xSmithie had such a good early game, but was unable to transition it to a lategame.
But I agree, I think a team can definitely punch through a lot of C9's early game, but then vul specifically had no idea what to do lategame once C9 just roamed as a team.
EDIT: Listening to Hai he's basically right. Vul should have tower dived with the advantage. They forgot the league concept of actually snowballing.
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On July 12 2013 10:57 ImmortalTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol Yeah, Zuna, this split especially has just been so ridiculously underwhelming. He has never been good; he's just gotten farm. He's supposed to be mancloud's backup plan, cuz mancloud champs usually don't scale as hard into lategame.
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On July 12 2013 10:58 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:57 ImmortalTofu wrote:On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol Yeah, Zuna, this split especially has just been so ridiculously underwhelming. He has never been good; he's just gotten farm. He's supposed to be mancloud's backup plan, cuz mancloud champs usually don't scale as hard into lategame. mancloud played shit and positioned poorly in that game as well
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On July 12 2013 10:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:57 petered wrote:On July 12 2013 10:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I hate it when people talk about comebacks like this one because it's basically completely attributable to Zuna being shit, but now C9 just gets stupid hype for the OMG COMEBACK lol You don't think they played well at all? Most NA teams wouldn't have been able to come back when down 1-11 and 10k gold. Yes vulcan threw, but give them some credit for playing it out well. Not really, no, they didn't play that well. Any NA team would've won that vs Zuna lol. It's not hard to win with a 10k gold deficit when it's 5v4.
That's a very blunt statement. Sometimes you just gotta give a team credit. Zuna messed up. Cloud 9 also played well to get to the position where they were. It is not easy to win from their position, no matter the team.
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