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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 12 2013 05:09 GMT
#801
On July 12 2013 13:52 gtrsrs wrote:
zuna is hands down the nicest player in LCS


I can't imagine someone that bad AND a jerk being on a pro team.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
July 12 2013 05:23 GMT
#802
On July 12 2013 12:23 sylverfyre wrote:
Sure, most kr teams would never have gotten that stomped early. But actually executing that comeback, and not just getting sloppily brute-forced into defeat by Vulcun took equal parts skill, spirit, and luck.

Faker LeBlanc.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 12 2013 05:45 GMT
#803
On July 12 2013 14:09 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 13:52 gtrsrs wrote:
zuna is hands down the nicest player in LCS


I can't imagine someone that bad AND a jerk being on a pro team.


idk, everyone has bad games
it's still worth mentioning that he's a genuinely nice person, always willing to give advice or at the very least a smile and a handshake. lots of players are kinda mean shittalkers so it's nice to have guys like zuna in the LCS.
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 12 2013 07:02 GMT
#804
Wow, I went to sleep during the last game where C9 was getting wrecked... And you tell me they won? Dafuk :o
The legend of Darien lives on
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 12 2013 07:20 GMT
#805
I feel bad but I can't help but to root for Curse to lose. That roster will get flipped so many ways if they get eliminated. Realistically too, it has the opportunity to provide the most drama.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
July 12 2013 07:32 GMT
#806
On July 12 2013 16:20 Irave wrote:
I feel bad but I can't help but to root for Curse to lose. That roster will get flipped so many ways if they get eliminated. Realistically too, it has the opportunity to provide the most drama.

I think Curse will disband if they get eliminated and then lose relegations. Idk what will happen with Curse Academy without Curse A, but A probably won't stick around until next season. Jacky will probably leave and head home, Saint's gone, Edward might return to EU, Voy might start college, and who knows about cop. I could only see Voy and cop trying to play through until the next relegation matches, but chances are slim. It really sucks any team will have to be eliminated after this season and will most likely disband.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 12 2013 08:46 GMT
#807
man just finished the vod...

Zuna less screaming more focus pls.

tanking the whole enemy team for 2 more AA just cause he "can" lantern away and hitting nunu while Ashe casually killed him over the wall was so cringeworthy.

He lost this alone, if vulcun had a decent ad carry ( not talking about this game alone but he's never really won games for vulcun, mancloud and bloodwater too strong) they'd be even scarier.

wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 12 2013 09:22 GMT
#808
On July 12 2013 17:46 AsnSensation wrote:
man just finished the vod...

Zuna less screaming more focus pls.

tanking the whole enemy team for 2 more AA just cause he "can" lantern away and hitting nunu while Ashe casually killed him over the wall was so cringeworthy.

He lost this alone, if vulcun had a decent ad carry ( not talking about this game alone but he's never really won games for vulcun, mancloud and bloodwater too strong) they'd be even scarier.


Now I understand Zuna's fail this game; but there's always going to be a "weak link" on any team. That's just the nature of a team game; one teammate's skill is always going to be inferior to his peers. Zuna usually doesn't seem like such a liability; though he's definitely the weak link on his team.
liftlift > tsm
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
July 12 2013 09:26 GMT
#809
I have mixed feelings about TSM's first game. I am glad to see they are changing it up and trying something different, but it just doesn't really make sense on paper too much? I think an Annie/Graves (because Draven was banned) would have been better.

Anyway. Now that NA gets 3 spots, I am not worried for TSM. The fact that they tried something crazy (and failed) and then went back to standard (and won) shows me that they haven't given up. I want Dyrus to expand his champ pool with more carries. He should give Ryze, Kha'Zix, Rumble some more plays. Give Regi Karthus, Diana, TF, Malphite, and other initiating heroes.

Really need to beat CLG though.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 12 2013 09:43 GMT
#810
@Jon I'd actually love to see tsm run the comp again, one can only imagine how the game would have gone if it wasnt fir reginalds retard call which led to the early 0:4 ( xpecials fault ofc!!!)

They actuall still had decent teamfights after behind so much behind.

Dont like the zilean though and def should ban sona cause she has such a strong counteri initiate especially vs bloodwater who has her as a signature champion.

@wei2 i just think it's funny that a guy who loves to play hypercarries is too dumb to position correctl with 700+ range.
I obv cant say too much as long as mancloud and bloodwater keep carrying and they keep winning but I was so angry last week when he was fed on kog but dragged the game for another 15 unnessary minutes cause he played like shit in teamfights.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 12 2013 11:06 GMT
#811
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that during TSM games Reginald and Dyrus are switched ? It makes no sense since whatever they said Regi is still mid and pick mid champ
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
July 12 2013 11:18 GMT
#812
On July 12 2013 20:06 Lylat wrote:
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that during TSM games Reginald and Dyrus are switched ? It makes no sense since whatever they said Regi is still mid and pick mid champ

Lots of people take issue with it.
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
July 12 2013 12:07 GMT
#813
It was eve throwing more than anyone else, getting caught as 7-0 and then they lost 5v4 because they couldnt back vs a nunu. Gold is overrated, lategame ryze, ashe and zed are huge. Also eve's DFG choice was really poor, she should have went for abyssal/zhonyas.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 12 2013 12:42 GMT
#814
I have this horrible feeling CLG will go 0-2 tomorrow

However if we go 2-0 worlds is looking good :D
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 12 2013 14:20 GMT
#815
On July 12 2013 18:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 17:46 AsnSensation wrote:
man just finished the vod...

Zuna less screaming more focus pls.

tanking the whole enemy team for 2 more AA just cause he "can" lantern away and hitting nunu while Ashe casually killed him over the wall was so cringeworthy.

He lost this alone, if vulcun had a decent ad carry ( not talking about this game alone but he's never really won games for vulcun, mancloud and bloodwater too strong) they'd be even scarier.


Now I understand Zuna's fail this game; but there's always going to be a "weak link" on any team. That's just the nature of a team game; one teammate's skill is always going to be inferior to his peers. Zuna usually doesn't seem like such a liability; though he's definitely the weak link on his team.


Most LCS teams' weak links don't have the skill of a gold level adc though. I'm dead serious that his decision making, positioning, and overall mechanics (attack moving minions...) is about what I see in the average gold adc. He farms better, sure, but that doesn't mean anything.

Someone compared him to the evil child of Doublelift and Cop - take all the farm and still manage to do nothing with it - and I found it hilariously true.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 14:51:06
July 12 2013 14:50 GMT
#816
On July 12 2013 18:43 AsnSensation wrote:
@Jon I'd actually love to see tsm run the comp again, one can only imagine how the game would have gone if it wasnt fir reginalds retard call which led to the early 0:4 ( xpecials fault ofc!!!)

They actuall still had decent teamfights after behind so much behind.

Dont like the zilean though and def should ban sona cause she has such a strong counteri initiate especially vs bloodwater who has her as a signature champion.

@wei2 i just think it's funny that a guy who loves to play hypercarries is too dumb to position correctl with 700+ range.
I obv cant say too much as long as mancloud and bloodwater keep carrying and they keep winning but I was so angry last week when he was fed on kog but dragged the game for another 15 unnessary minutes cause he played like shit in teamfights.


I could see Regi saying it's xpecial's fault. I watched the vod again and I noticed that Annie (maybe I"m wrong) looked like she had her stun up. She also had flash up when reginald came, but xpecial refused to flash for it even when two of his teammates seemed to be ready to make that move.

If xspecial had flashed, stunned, and then given regi one more ticking time bomb, I think that might have been enough to kill the caitlyn since she was already really low.

Now granted, I don't know if three flashes for first blood would have been completely worth it, but I'm not very good at this game so maybe it would've been a really important lead that TSM needed.

At the same time, I still think it's regi's fault, but I can't help but think that it's still not 100% his fault here.
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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 12 2013 15:24 GMT
#817
On July 12 2013 23:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 18:43 AsnSensation wrote:
@Jon I'd actually love to see tsm run the comp again, one can only imagine how the game would have gone if it wasnt fir reginalds retard call which led to the early 0:4 ( xpecials fault ofc!!!)

They actuall still had decent teamfights after behind so much behind.

Dont like the zilean though and def should ban sona cause she has such a strong counteri initiate especially vs bloodwater who has her as a signature champion.

@wei2 i just think it's funny that a guy who loves to play hypercarries is too dumb to position correctl with 700+ range.
I obv cant say too much as long as mancloud and bloodwater keep carrying and they keep winning but I was so angry last week when he was fed on kog but dragged the game for another 15 unnessary minutes cause he played like shit in teamfights.


I could see Regi saying it's xpecial's fault. I watched the vod again and I noticed that Annie (maybe I"m wrong) looked like she had her stun up. She also had flash up when reginald came, but xpecial refused to flash for it even when two of his teammates seemed to be ready to make that move.

If xspecial had flashed, stunned, and then given regi one more ticking time bomb, I think that might have been enough to kill the caitlyn since she was already really low.

Now granted, I don't know if three flashes for first blood would have been completely worth it, but I'm not very good at this game so maybe it would've been a really important lead that TSM needed.

At the same time, I still think it's regi's fault, but I can't help but think that it's still not 100% his fault here.


Let's be honest, TSM's biggest mistake was playing a composition that had to win early against a team that relies on an adc who only plays hypercarries, yet is incapable of playing hypercarries. You need to maximize the amount of time Zuna has to throw, not try to end the game in 20 minutes.

In all seriousness though, I feel bad for Zuna and Vulcun, a loss like that can really screw with your headspace and it'll be interesting to see how they come back from it.
Swissm
Profile Joined June 2010
United States207 Posts
July 12 2013 15:26 GMT
#818
On July 12 2013 20:06 Lylat wrote:
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that during TSM games Reginald and Dyrus are switched ? It makes no sense since whatever they said Regi is still mid and pick mid champ


It's because top lane does picks/bans and they'd rather have Regi do them than Dyrus.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
July 12 2013 15:30 GMT
#819
On July 12 2013 23:20 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 18:22 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 12 2013 17:46 AsnSensation wrote:
man just finished the vod...

Zuna less screaming more focus pls.

tanking the whole enemy team for 2 more AA just cause he "can" lantern away and hitting nunu while Ashe casually killed him over the wall was so cringeworthy.

He lost this alone, if vulcun had a decent ad carry ( not talking about this game alone but he's never really won games for vulcun, mancloud and bloodwater too strong) they'd be even scarier.


Now I understand Zuna's fail this game; but there's always going to be a "weak link" on any team. That's just the nature of a team game; one teammate's skill is always going to be inferior to his peers. Zuna usually doesn't seem like such a liability; though he's definitely the weak link on his team.


Most LCS teams' weak links don't have the skill of a gold level adc though. I'm dead serious that his decision making, positioning, and overall mechanics (attack moving minions...) is about what I see in the average gold adc. He farms better, sure, but that doesn't mean anything.

Someone compared him to the evil child of Doublelift and Cop - take all the farm and still manage to do nothing with it - and I found it hilariously true.


Vulcan really started to shine when they managed to acquire BloodWater, probably one of the top supports in the world.

It really changed the way that Vulcan can play, instead of an okay support in MuffinQt, they had a top tier support that could get Zuna fed, and since Zuna seems to favor late game hyper carries, the rest of the team could build around that. If a carry gets that much gold, it's possible to hide gameplay weakness since you just do too much damage.

@DreamingBird
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 12 2013 15:37 GMT
#820
On July 13 2013 00:26 Swissm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:06 Lylat wrote:
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that during TSM games Reginald and Dyrus are switched ? It makes no sense since whatever they said Regi is still mid and pick mid champ


It's because top lane does picks/bans and they'd rather have Regi do them than Dyrus.


When it was announced I thought it was just a troll because I assumed that dyrus picks and bans together with the team anyway. The latest gamespot episode has revealed that apparently xpecial has convinced Dyrus during Champ select to ban Ryze and ignored Regi's "order".

So I can see what Regi would want to do p/b himself.
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