Really curious to see what they do with the zilean pick because it's hardly a lane counterpick... I think Ori gets bullied much less than a lot of other mids with the shield (actually ahead of zilean in cs...)

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

July 06 2013 16:32 GMT

#49

O DA BOMBZ

Alaric

France45622 Posts

July 06 2013 16:32 GMT

#50

Shouldn't Czaru have more farm? Zilean's got a 600 range auto in the worst case, but he's pretty behind Orianna in cs...

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

July 06 2013 16:34 GMT

#51

On July 07 2013 01:32 Alaric wrote:
Shouldn't Czaru have more farm? Zilean's got a 600 range auto in the worst case, but he's pretty behind Orianna in cs...

His auto animation sucks ass. His farming with Bombs is really inefficient until he has more AP.

I really dislike Zilean mid unless you can bully with bombs and free farm with autos. (e.g. Zilean v Karth)

Alaric

France45622 Posts

July 06 2013 16:35 GMT

#52

Libik y u ignite ;_;

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

July 06 2013 16:36 GMT

#53

On July 07 2013 01:35 Alaric wrote:
Libik y u ignite ;_;

Bronze tier decision making

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

July 06 2013 16:39 GMT

#54

Nothing feels worse than blowing everything to get a couple kills and a tower bottom, only to lose two towers and dragon as a result.

Also, I'm curious how the DC + Tear Zilean build will work. If you're not going to build CDR Tear + AP makes sense, but Athene's + Blue on Zilean is so ridiculously strong.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

July 06 2013 16:39 GMT

#55

HAH
Deman said doodoo

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

July 06 2013 16:39 GMT

#56

On July 07 2013 01:39 Seuss wrote:
Nothing feels worse than blowing everything to get a couple kills and a tower bottom, only to lose two towers and dragon as a result.

Also, I'm curious how the DC + Tear Zilean build will work. If you're not going to build CDR Tear + AP makes sense, but Athene's + Blue on Zilean is so ridiculously strong.

Pains me to see a non-CDR Zilean.

JALbert

United States484 Posts

July 06 2013 16:40 GMT

#57

On July 07 2013 01:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
HAH
Deman said doodoo

I'm glad I'm not the only one who chuckled.

JALbert

United States484 Posts

July 06 2013 16:41 GMT

#58

On July 07 2013 01:39 NeoIllusions wrote:

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Pains me to see a non-CDR Zilean.

I feel like CDR is pretty much mandatory on anyone who has abilities that lower cooldowns.

JBright

Vancouver14381 Posts

July 06 2013 16:42 GMT

#59

So much health from Zilean ult. Didn't even realize he went DCap so fast.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

July 06 2013 16:42 GMT

#60

On July 07 2013 01:36 NeoIllusions wrote:

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Bronze tier decision making

You trying to make my anti-Dig rants sound reasonable?

I'm really not a fan of MYM not trying to end the laning phase and encourage roaming more, considering that Zilean is super good for this (esp. with blue and Ori's ult cd being a bit long) and they already have some towers down and Draven. The less tower there is, the less sieges against Fnatic's super good teamfighting comp they'll have.