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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 10:37 GMT
#1681
Great gank by lilac in mid.
liftlift > tsm
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
July 19 2013 10:37 GMT
#1682
On July 19 2013 19:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:32 Gahlo wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:29 GTR wrote:
i don't know whats more awesome about the intro, the lg-im transition or the flame close-up

Transition, a million%

The Imp wings was pretty sick too.

I think LG IM won in champ select; slightly.


Depends a bit on MVP B's crazy plan for the Kayle I guess. It is MVP B after all.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 10:38 GMT
#1683
On July 19 2013 19:37 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:34 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:32 Gahlo wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:29 GTR wrote:
i don't know whats more awesome about the intro, the lg-im transition or the flame close-up

Transition, a million%

The Imp wings was pretty sick too.

I think LG IM won in champ select; slightly.


Depends a bit on MVP B's crazy plan for the Kayle I guess. It is MVP B after all.

MVP fairly "short ranged" comp; shockwave is going to be able to do A LOT of work.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 10:39 GMT
#1684
What did I say about that shockwave again?
liftlift > tsm
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 19 2013 10:40 GMT
#1685
dragon trade was on MVP favor
Pure fan
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 10:40 GMT
#1686
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.
liftlift > tsm
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
July 19 2013 10:40 GMT
#1687
On July 19 2013 19:39 wei2coolman wrote:
What did I say about that shockwave again?


Was already done on my screen as you said it But yeah, that shockwave is the only reason LG-IM could go 2 for 2 4v5. Kind of dangerous to contest that at all tbh.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 10:41 GMT
#1688
On July 19 2013 19:40 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:39 wei2coolman wrote:
What did I say about that shockwave again?


Was already done on my screen as you said it But yeah, that shockwave is the only reason LG-IM could go 2 for 2 4v5. Kind of dangerous to contest that at all tbh.

Shockwave is a silly skill if it hits.
liftlift > tsm
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 19 2013 10:43 GMT
#1689
On July 19 2013 19:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.


no
dragon gives more money and turrets can be destroyed anytime, while dragona are limited
Pure fan
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 10:45:13
July 19 2013 10:44 GMT
#1690
LG IM giving too much respect to MVP Blue; LG should be the one trying to force something right now.
On July 19 2013 19:43 PaleMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.


no
dragon gives more money and turrets can be destroyed anytime, while dragona are limited

Dragon doesn't give any map control; turrets do. Not to mention the farm that PLL was able to get during that entire time. That trade was even.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 19 2013 10:45 GMT
#1691
Ori doing work.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 19 2013 10:45 GMT
#1692
Wow LG-IM are in a good position right now
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
July 19 2013 10:45 GMT
#1693
That was terrible play by MVP Blue. Had perfect vision, took too long to react, then ran in one by one and got obliterated
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 10:46 GMT
#1694
LG IM finally forcing objective; hitting their power peak. Good shit.
liftlift > tsm
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 19 2013 10:46 GMT
#1695
On July 19 2013 19:44 wei2coolman wrote:
LG IM giving too much respect to MVP Blue; LG should be the one trying to force something right now.
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:43 PaleMan wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.


no
dragon gives more money and turrets can be destroyed anytime, while dragona are limited

Dragon doesn't give any map control; turrets do. Not to mention the farm that PLL was able to get during that entire time. That trade was even.



top tower doesn't give any map control
he'd farm anyway

Pure fan
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 10:48:28
July 19 2013 10:46 GMT
#1696
Baited into a sick shockwave.

On July 19 2013 19:46 PaleMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:44 wei2coolman wrote:
LG IM giving too much respect to MVP Blue; LG should be the one trying to force something right now.
On July 19 2013 19:43 PaleMan wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.


no
dragon gives more money and turrets can be destroyed anytime, while dragona are limited

Dragon doesn't give any map control; turrets do. Not to mention the farm that PLL was able to get during that entire time. That trade was even.



top tower doesn't give any map control
he'd farm anyway



Top tower gives plenty map control, makes the entire lane unsafe to farm after you push it up. Focusing on objectives is like half the reason why KR was incredibly far ahead of NA/EU for so long lol.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 19 2013 10:48 GMT
#1697
On July 19 2013 19:44 wei2coolman wrote:
LG IM giving too much respect to MVP Blue; LG should be the one trying to force something right now.
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:43 PaleMan wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.


no
dragon gives more money and turrets can be destroyed anytime, while dragona are limited

Dragon doesn't give any map control; turrets do. Not to mention the farm that PLL was able to get during that entire time. That trade was even.

Popular opinion is that early game objectives go mid tower > Dragon > top/bottom towers.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 10:49:43
July 19 2013 10:48 GMT
#1698
On July 19 2013 19:46 PaleMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 19:44 wei2coolman wrote:
LG IM giving too much respect to MVP Blue; LG should be the one trying to force something right now.
On July 19 2013 19:43 PaleMan wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 19:40 PaleMan wrote:
dragon trade was on MVP favor

Disagree; it was even trade. PLL got turret cuz of that Kennen.


no
dragon gives more money and turrets can be destroyed anytime, while dragona are limited

Dragon doesn't give any map control; turrets do. Not to mention the farm that PLL was able to get during that entire time. That trade was even.



top tower doesn't give any map control
he'd farm anyway


He could' have just as easily rotated down bot; and still lose dragon; maybe get a few more kills.
The trade was solid; tower for drag; with nice chunk of farm. It's a very solid trade from LG.

Of course that's not to say it was the wrong move by MVP blue; but just a nice reaction from LG.
liftlift > tsm
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 19 2013 10:49 GMT
#1699
nope

any good team gladly trades their top for dragon
Pure fan
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 19 2013 10:49 GMT
#1700
Surprised to not see Koreans not adjust from SotEL to Brutalizer/Vamp on Bluezreal.
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