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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 25 2013 01:42 GMT
#5041
On August 25 2013 10:33 unionbank wrote:
so what must ozone do to go to worlds? Is it just winning 3rd place? are there any other variables that might come into play?

If KT wins, Ozone will have to go through regionals. If SKT wins, 3rd place gets them a guaranteed spot, 4th puts them in regionals.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 25 2013 02:25 GMT
#5042
Ozone will not lose to Frost. Period.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 25 2013 09:10 GMT
#5043
Well with recent results, it makes me extremely sad that one of SKT, KTB and Ozone won't make it for sure. All three teams have been looking really strong. Dunno how mentally stable ozone is after that loss though, and if it comes down to another series between them and SKT, I wouldn't bet on Ozone.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 25 2013 15:14 GMT
#5044
Btw, does anyone know something about the KR regionals? Will it be a bigger event at a venue or will they do it at Yongsan?
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 15:47:33
August 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#5045
edit: Wrong thing!
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 25 2013 15:48 GMT
#5046
On August 26 2013 00:14 UmberBane wrote:
Btw, does anyone know something about the KR regionals? Will it be a bigger event at a venue or will they do it at Yongsan?

probably just yongsan
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#5047
If KTB wins Champions, they will tie Sword in terms of points. Who gets the quarterfinals seed then?
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 25 2013 21:52 GMT
#5048
On August 26 2013 06:07 glzElectromaster wrote:
If KTB wins Champions, they will tie Sword in terms of points. Who gets the quarterfinals seed then?

Probably a tie breaker to decide it. If they went on strength of results, it would be KTB I think.
sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
August 26 2013 03:17 GMT
#5049
In any case of tie, I believe they said they will have to play an extra game
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 27 2013 09:51 GMT
#5050
Sword being directly seeded into quarterfinals is pretty bullshit. Literally the only thing they've done is win NLB and OGN champions 2 seasons ago. Outside of that they've pretty much been highly mediocre the rest of the time, and even finishing 1st in NLB is essentially the same as finishing 5th.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 27 2013 10:58 GMT
#5051
Yes it's a shame, however I doubt that the other 2 teams that qualify will have any trouble getting through the group stage.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 27 2013 12:37 GMT
#5052
I'd rather see Sword playing through group stages though as a benchmark team.
sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
August 27 2013 12:58 GMT
#5053
With all this hate against Sword, I guess everyone will be cheering for KTB in the upcoming finals, so that at least there's a tiebreaker game between Sword and KTB. If Sword is as mediocre as everyone says, KTB will win that and be awarded a bye and Sword will have to play through group stage in the Worlds. As KTB fan, that sounds good to me!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 27 2013 13:19 GMT
#5054
NO I'm rooting for Skt1 because faker op and afaik they need the win to make it into regionals. I couldn't care less if sword gets the bye cause one of ktb and/or skt1/ozone will make it to the finals anyway
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 19:15:37
August 27 2013 19:12 GMT
#5055
Hmmm. After watching this seasons OGN i find that I really can't watch the LCS any more. After following professional BW since 2001/2 and a couple of years of SC2, you get so accustomed to absolute crisp execution, flawless strategy and so on. When I try to watch the EU LCS now, I just see so many sub-optimal plays (in my newb understanding of this game that is) that I really cant finish a game any more. For instance I tried to watch gamescom G1 of GMB vs. EG today. GMB had dual globals (shen + karth) and a lee sin that is an amazing gap closer, and still there was only one ult (defensive shen ult) in the first 13 minutes of the game. Watching it feels like so much potential going to waste and so few "free" advantages unused when you compare it to the 5-6 best korean teams. The strategy of pick/ban and making the team comp work for you, just seems like something they can only do properly in korea.

Clearly, it isnt as black and white as this, but I just feel the difference in understanding and level of play makes the EU/NA so unappealing.

Anyone else experiencing the same "problem"?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 27 2013 19:12 GMT
#5056
On August 28 2013 04:12 Aphasie wrote:
Hmmm. After watching this seasons OGN i find that I really can't watch the LCS any more. After following professional BW since 2001/2 and a couple of years of SC2, you get so accustomed to absolute crisp execution, flawless strategy and so on. When I try to watch the EU LCS now, I just see so many sub-optimal plays (in my newb understanding of this game that is) that I really cant finish a game any more. For instance I tried to watch G1 of GMB vs. EG today. GMB had dual globals (shen + karth) and a lee sin that is an amazing gap closer, and still there was only one ult (defensive shen ult) in the first 13 minutes of the game. Watching it feels like so much potential going to waste and so few "free" advantages unused when you compare it to the 5-6 best korean teams. The strategy of pick/ban and making the team comp work for you, just seems like something they can do in korea.

Clearly, it isnt as black and white as this, but I just feel the difference in understanding and level of play makes the EU/NA so unappealingl.

Anyone else experiencing the same "problem"?

Plenty of people sure bitch about it the LCS LR threads hue.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
August 27 2013 19:14 GMT
#5057
Oki doki. I rarely read anything else than this thread and perhaps the general discussion
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 27 2013 19:57 GMT
#5058
On August 28 2013 04:12 Aphasie wrote:
Hmmm. After watching this seasons OGN i find that I really can't watch the LCS any more. After following professional BW since 2001/2 and a couple of years of SC2, you get so accustomed to absolute crisp execution, flawless strategy and so on. When I try to watch the EU LCS now, I just see so many sub-optimal plays (in my newb understanding of this game that is) that I really cant finish a game any more. For instance I tried to watch gamescom G1 of GMB vs. EG today. GMB had dual globals (shen + karth) and a lee sin that is an amazing gap closer, and still there was only one ult (defensive shen ult) in the first 13 minutes of the game. Watching it feels like so much potential going to waste and so few "free" advantages unused when you compare it to the 5-6 best korean teams. The strategy of pick/ban and making the team comp work for you, just seems like something they can only do properly in korea.

Clearly, it isnt as black and white as this, but I just feel the difference in understanding and level of play makes the EU/NA so unappealing.

Anyone else experiencing the same "problem"?

It's like college vs pro. There's still plenty to like about college football/basketball, even when technically pros are playing at a higher level.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 27 2013 20:04 GMT
#5059
On August 28 2013 04:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 04:12 Aphasie wrote:
Hmmm. After watching this seasons OGN i find that I really can't watch the LCS any more. After following professional BW since 2001/2 and a couple of years of SC2, you get so accustomed to absolute crisp execution, flawless strategy and so on. When I try to watch the EU LCS now, I just see so many sub-optimal plays (in my newb understanding of this game that is) that I really cant finish a game any more. For instance I tried to watch gamescom G1 of GMB vs. EG today. GMB had dual globals (shen + karth) and a lee sin that is an amazing gap closer, and still there was only one ult (defensive shen ult) in the first 13 minutes of the game. Watching it feels like so much potential going to waste and so few "free" advantages unused when you compare it to the 5-6 best korean teams. The strategy of pick/ban and making the team comp work for you, just seems like something they can only do properly in korea.

Clearly, it isnt as black and white as this, but I just feel the difference in understanding and level of play makes the EU/NA so unappealing.

Anyone else experiencing the same "problem"?

It's like college vs pro. There's still plenty to like about college football/basketball, even when technically pros are playing at a higher level.

It's about passion!

...and the throws...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 20:12:51
August 27 2013 20:10 GMT
#5060
On August 28 2013 04:12 Aphasie wrote:
Hmmm. After watching this seasons OGN i find that I really can't watch the LCS any more. After following professional BW since 2001/2 and a couple of years of SC2, you get so accustomed to absolute crisp execution, flawless strategy and so on. When I try to watch the EU LCS now, I just see so many sub-optimal plays (in my newb understanding of this game that is) that I really cant finish a game any more. For instance I tried to watch gamescom G1 of GMB vs. EG today. GMB had dual globals (shen + karth) and a lee sin that is an amazing gap closer, and still there was only one ult (defensive shen ult) in the first 13 minutes of the game. Watching it feels like so much potential going to waste and so few "free" advantages unused when you compare it to the 5-6 best korean teams. The strategy of pick/ban and making the team comp work for you, just seems like something they can only do properly in korea.

Clearly, it isnt as black and white as this, but I just feel the difference in understanding and level of play makes the EU/NA so unappealing.

Anyone else experiencing the same "problem"?


For me it's the same, although I watch handpicked games of the teams I really root for in NA/EU. Yet in the KR scene I absolutely try to absorb every drop of content that I can get. The thing that needs to be noted here though, is that from my experience it seems much worse and gets much more apparent to the somewhat knowledgeable spectator in a team game than it might be in a 1v1 game when your execution is laking, as long as you're still facing an opponent of roughly your level of play. It's hard to explain, but because the crisp execution in LoL relies very heavily on extremely crisp coordination aswell, a mediocre execution will look much worse than it actually is IMO. So, these NA/EU teams might look really bad if you compare them to the top Koreans, but they're still really fucking good nonetheless, it's just that they pale so greatly in comparison.
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