EPTUgh, I wish we'd seen the Caitlyn with Zhonya's on Karthus you were talking about. A 3 man dive onto that would've backfired so unbelievably hard.
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Swords
6038 Posts
Ugh, I wish we'd seen the Caitlyn with Zhonya's on Karthus you were talking about. A 3 man dive onto that would've backfired so unbelievably hard. | ||
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Affenaffe
Germany1386 Posts
no, usually it isn't you snipe him and run away | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:07 IshinShishi wrote: ya, nasus was garbage, only diamondprox can play a proper utility nasus, everyone else should stick to the basics and farm his q, otherwise there's no point in picking nasus in the first place, that's why nasus is good, he scales tremendously into the late game, not this one though. Nasus is ultra strong at early dragons, but with the fear of shen joining and zion having no teleport, they could never utilize this. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
No, this is where we'll have to disagree. If a game is going for that late, that karthus passive is not enough to justify dying so early in a game that is pass the 45 minute mark especially when he dies out of position. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
Holy shit that press-R comp from Crs. That is some serious AoE disable. Oh Saint is on the Zac, that makes a lot more sense. | ||
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:15 Swords wrote: Ugh, I wish we'd seen the Caitlyn with Zhonya's on Karthus you were talking about. A 3 man dive onto that would've backfired so unbelievably hard. Yep yep. People complain about me having wild ideas but at least I have the ability to think outside the box enough to realize something as obviously powerful and synergetic as that. In fact if Vlad used pool and Zhonyas near Jintae as well it's quite a bit of Defile dmg. Defile DPS is around half Fiddle ult DPS and then you add in Lay Waste ... Yep definitely don't think that kiting was the way to go at all. In fact, I'm going to argue here that Cait "kiting" and getting 1-2 extra shots off would have been less overall damage than Cait flashing on top of Jintae and instantly dying. On April 28 2013 10:16 Affenaffe wrote: no, usually it isn't you snipe him and run away Dying early =/= for free. For example there's this item called Zhonyas Hourglass which is core on Kar..... oh wait he had none at 60min nvm | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:18 Fionn wrote: So the finals spot goes down to which support is better at grabs. I don't actually like the blitzcrank hooking a kennen once his zhonyas is done, malphite, thresh or zac is just being "helpful" after a while varus feels like the only one where it won't just be a free initiation for crs. | ||
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Affenaffe
Germany1386 Posts
i is confused | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:18 Shikyo wrote: Yep yep. People complain about me having wild ideas but at least I have the ability to think outside the box enough to realize something as obviously powerful and synergetic as that. In fact if Vlad used pool and Zhonyas near Jintae as well it's quite a bit of Defile dmg. Defile DPS is around half Fiddle ult DPS and then you add in Lay Waste ... Yep definitely don't think that kiting was the way to go at all. In fact, I'm going to argue here that Cait "kiting" and getting 1-2 extra shots off would have been less overall damage than Cait flashing on top of Jintae and instantly dying. People don't really complain about your ideas, it is how you present your ideas. That attitude needs work. I have nothing against your idea of hourglass on Caitlyn. I recall one of the older LCS game where I said the same thing for doublelift on vayne. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:18 Shikyo wrote: Yep yep. People complain about me having wild ideas but at least I have the ability to think outside the box enough to realize something as obviously powerful and synergetic as that. In fact if Vlad used pool and Zhonyas near Jintae as well it's quite a bit of Defile dmg. Defile DPS is around half Fiddle ult DPS and then you add in Lay Waste ... Yep definitely don't think that kiting was the way to go at all. In fact, I'm going to argue here that Cait "kiting" and getting 1-2 extra shots off would have been less overall damage than Cait flashing on top of Jintae and instantly dying. Maybe, but I think they'd be able to back off too quickly if she "instantly" died. If she has Zhonya's like you proposed though it's a whole different story. If Jintae gets Zhonya's too, then it's GG. I still think the biggest problem was not taking a TP against Shen, every fight in the mid game was 4v5 and that's what lost GGU the gold lead in the first place. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Bans: Caitlyn Miss Fortune Karthus Renekton Jayce Shen Picks: Thresh Twisted Fate / Nocturne Zac / Varus Blitzcrank / Ezreal Malphite / Kennen Vladimir | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:20 Affenaffe wrote: nice picks curse i is confused It's the saintvicious s2 meta.Run at them and click r. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Affenaffe
Germany1386 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:18 Shikyo wrote: Yep yep. People complain about me having wild ideas but at least I have the ability to think outside the box enough to realize something as obviously powerful and synergetic as that. In fact if Vlad used pool and Zhonyas near Jintae as well it's quite a bit of Defile dmg. Defile DPS is around half Fiddle ult DPS and then you add in Lay Waste ... Yep definitely don't think that kiting was the way to go at all. In fact, I'm going to argue here that Cait "kiting" and getting 1-2 extra shots off would have been less overall damage than Cait flashing on top of Jintae and instantly dying. Dying early =/= for free. For example there's this item called Zhonyas Hourglass which is core on Kar..... oh wait he had none at 60min nvm yes but with zhonyas you DON'T die early =) karthus needs a hell of a lot of time to do his damage, he has about 0 burst | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
IIRC Jintae is the best TF in NA and Crs comp is really weird. Predicting GGU win. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Na tf opop | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:25 Shikyo wrote: Hmm well, the general response to my Zhonyas Hourglass on AD is "but you waste x thousand gold on useless stats oneoneone cost-efficiency, they need no ap..." when it's 101% for the active and nothing else and I've never seen progamers use it. IIRC Jintae is the best TF in NA and Crs comp is really weird. Predicting GGU win. It's like an anti-Blitz comp. Anyone besides Cop is either tanky or has an AoE ult that can punish the pull. I like it. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9167 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:25 Shikyo wrote: IIRC Jintae is the best TF in NA I'm not impressed, he missed the gold card on the first rotation on that first gank. Voyboy would have died if he didn't. | ||
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