Yeah, not too much interesting going on in this specific week aside from Curse v TSM and Dig v TSM, but the results of this week will certainly have a huge impact on the importance of some Super Week V2 performances.
On April 11 2013 00:16 Numy wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed but ranking by Win percentage seems extremely strange...
I think it's just until the end of the season, since not every team has played the same number of games (well, once every team has played the same number of games the team with the highest win percentage will also have the most wins).
On April 11 2013 00:16 Numy wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed but ranking by Win percentage seems extremely strange...
I think it's just until the end of the season, since not every team has played the same number of games (well, once every team has played the same number of games the team with the highest win percentage will also have the most wins).
Yea at the end of the season winrate is basically number of wins. Think it would be a bit more interesting with Bo2s tbh :<
On April 11 2013 00:16 Numy wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed but ranking by Win percentage seems extremely strange...
I think it's just until the end of the season, since not every team has played the same number of games (well, once every team has played the same number of games the team with the highest win percentage will also have the most wins).
Yea at the end of the season winrate is basically number of wins. Think it would be a bit more interesting with Bo2s tbh :<
In the end it's going to be the same amount of games, whether it's four BO1s or two BO2s. The major difference is that roster changes have the potential to have a bigger effect on head-to-head match-ups when they are spread out like they are.
On April 11 2013 00:16 Numy wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed but ranking by Win percentage seems extremely strange...
I think it's just until the end of the season, since not every team has played the same number of games (well, once every team has played the same number of games the team with the highest win percentage will also have the most wins).
Yea at the end of the season winrate is basically number of wins. Think it would be a bit more interesting with Bo2s tbh :<
In the end it's going to be the same amount of games, whether it's four BO1s or two BO2s. The major difference is that roster changes have the potential to have a bigger effect on head-to-head match-ups when they are spread out like they are.
I don't think that's the major difference. The overall is the same as you said but the major difference is the individual matches will have much more intensity associated with them. As it stands the "bo4" is played out over such a long period of time the individual matches don't have as much influence of eachother but in a boX(X>1) you get them happening in a short span so you get to see the emotions transferring from one game to another. The story line becomes so much more real to you.
As a bonus there's also less downtime since you don't have to change out equipment(Assuming number of games per night stays the same(1 match is 2 games).
ps: Think roster changes are retarded, Rosters should be locked with transfer periods happening mid way and/or after season. Roster changes like TSM/MRN are fine since it is just a lineup change where their roster already included players they changed.
Why would you try to kill Volibear 1v1 in his jungle? Even though Jarvan got Saint low his team still would react faster and the passive helps him survive until that happens.
On April 12 2013 05:23 Caphe wrote: I wonder why there is no replay in LCS? The Chinese has this feature and that makes watching these games so much more entertaining.
I think they do replay sometimes but only for like lategame teamfights
And scenarios like that are part of the reason Karthus is so popular in OGN. Even if you don't have enough damage to finish off the tower dive you can just do enough damage and let Karthus pick up free kills.
I really can't stand rivington. My IQ is literally dropping by the second as I hear his shout casts. Just so much BS, so many mistakes. Now I can't even enjoy some LCS, what is this.. and I'm so mad that I've lost my deciding promotion game.
On April 12 2013 05:37 JonGalt wrote: On a more serious note, I am really interested in Dig's new jungler. Pretty poor timing as things are so tense for top 2 spot.
On April 12 2013 05:49 Caphe wrote: Voli's passive needs a nerf..too fuking OP. I rage alot in soloQ because of Voli passive and seeing it on pro-level is just more annoying.
I see nothing unbearable about volibear passive. passive was down when jarvan decided to invade and fight a bear in his jungle. Bear runs at people and kinda wins or doesn't.
On April 12 2013 05:49 Caphe wrote: Voli's passive needs a nerf..too fuking OP. I rage alot in soloQ because of Voli passive and seeing it on pro-level is just more annoying.
because Clakey fought him in his own jungle? I'm sorry but this was the equivalent to trading kills because you forgot to run from kog'maw passive.
no it's like not even him, I don't mind him, but when he was on the EU cast all the other European casters tried to imitate his style for some reason and the results were dreadful.
On April 12 2013 06:24 Aando wrote: Yes, they pretty much traded an underfarmed Kayle for an underfarmed Nida. I'd say underfamred Kayle is more useful.
Also free farming Cho and Vayne... not like it's gonna be good for them when Vayne is a whole component ahead of Cait and Cho hits 6 stacks freely. It's not like Nidalee is a threat in lane either, she'll only need to hit 3 spears instead of 2. As long as Dignitas can't hard-engage decisively, I don't think it's good for them.
On April 12 2013 06:24 Aando wrote: Yes, they pretty much traded an underfarmed Kayle for an underfarmed Nida. I'd say underfamred Kayle is more useful.
Also free farming Cho and Vayne... not like it's gonna be good for them when Vayne is a whole component ahead of Cait and Cho hits 6 stacks freely. It's not like Nidalee is a threat in lane either, she'll only need to hit 3 spears instead of 2. As long as Dignitas can't hard-engage decisively, I don't think it's good for them.
I expected them to keep denying Nida but that didn't happen. It's definitely bad for them now. I can see the rationale behind it but bad execution.
CLG playing super well. Looking like they did in those Crs scrims. I have always felt like CLG was the one team in LCS who was the worst represented by their record, and games like this seem to show it (inb4 jinx).
edit: Dig really looks like they are feeling Crumbz absence. Especially running a 1-2-1 lane setup. OH GOD LINK SPEAR
Screw this shit. Dignitas are playing fucking awful, Lambo hasn't done anything and he only has like 10 cs on Chauster with absolutely no pressure at all—he only showed himself to save 30s on Kiwikid's tower lifetime, and hold a lane from time to time. Plus he builds selfishly so it's not like he'll help the time at all, contrary to Jarvan and Cho'Gath. Cait is already several dozen cs behind Vayne, and despite having Cait+Thresh they aren't even capable of outpushing Vayne+Sona to kill the goddamn mid tower that sits on like 300 HP. Dignitas has no synergy at all, plays passive as fuck and just gives up any objective that appears. I'm not sure they'd even try to defend any of their buffs from an invade.
Fucking Dig is a joke. They'll lose their shot at the 1st place. They'll deserve it. And it [they] pisses me off.
On April 12 2013 06:35 Alaric wrote: Screw this shit. Dignitas are playing fucking awful, Lambo hasn't done anything and he only has like 10 cs on Chauster with absolutely no pressure at all—he only showed himself to save 30s on Kiwikid's tower lifetime, and hold a lane from time to time. Plus he builds selfishly so it's not like he'll help the time at all, contrary to Jarvan and Cho'Gath. Cait is already several dozen cs behind Vayne, and despite having Cait+Thresh they aren't even capable of outpushing Vayne+Sona to kill the goddamn mid tower that sits on like 300 HP. Dignitas has no synergy at all, plays passive as fuck and just gives up any objective that appears. I'm not sure they'd even try to defend any of their buffs from an invade.
Fucking Dig is a joke. They'll lose their shot at the 1st place. They'll deserve it. And it [they] pisses me off.
Looks like Dignitas isn't worth anything outside of their comfort zone. Sure Lambo isn't as good as Crumbz, but qtpie and patoy are on their comfort champions and really truly lost their lane hardcore.
Scarra doesn't impress as Zed either (he had absolutly 0 impact on this game so far).
Giving Vayne free early game, I mean what's going on in Dig right now. You can't shut down Vayne right now with Jarvan and Cho sits in the front line. And its Doublelift's Vayne.
shit Dig getting raped lol, hopefully I can start using my clg mouse with pride again. They have already been looking good during the scrims vs curse though.
gotta give credit to hotshot, he may suck most of the time but when on comfort champs like malph and especially cho, he plays really solid. and doublelift probably first time 10cs/min although he has said it's pretty much impossible ( ofc proven wrong by every Wx game ever played :D)
most of that was chauster pressuring all over the place and while lambo kept going bot and not accomplishing much. CLG played that really clean though, no glaring mistakes.
Rough looking game. Link did very well to be relevant after laning vs Cait/Thresh. Hotshot can play Cho, news flash. Double farmed as hell. Aphro and Chauster making most of the plays through the early and mid game. Just solid.
Dignitas seemed to lose everywhere, and I really feel like it was because they tried to run a unique lane set up with a jungler they don't know well.
Crumbz's absent really hurts Dig here. That Elise do nothing all game long, lol. Zed just got blow up in like 1.5 sec after he went in. That Cho silence too strong!
I shall link the VoD of that game to everyone asking me why despite being a Dignitas fan I curse at them so often and am so pessimistic most of the time. Pretty much sums up why you can't refrain from yelling at them (also makes for an excellent anger management exercise).
On April 12 2013 06:44 Nos- wrote: man you guys shitting on Dig so hard lmao
On April 12 2013 06:45 Alaric wrote: I shall link the VoD of that game to everyone asking me why despite being a Dignitas fan I curse at them so often and am so pessimistic most of the time. Pretty much sums up why you can't refrain from yelling at them (also makes for an excellent anger management exercise).
On April 12 2013 06:44 Nos- wrote: man you guys shitting on Dig so hard lmao
They deserve it.
No, they don't, their jungler and shotcaller wasn't playing and was replaced by soloQ player with no competetive Xp, and CLG was really well. chill out
That mid gank,,,I mean seeing Jarvan sitting on a fuking ward and not backing out? Actually the 2nd gank was seen by Dig as well but they still let it happen.
On April 12 2013 06:45 Alaric wrote: I shall link the VoD of that game to everyone asking me why despite being a Dignitas fan I curse at them so often and am so pessimistic most of the time. Pretty much sums up why you can't refrain from yelling at them (also makes for an excellent anger management exercise).
On April 12 2013 06:44 Nos- wrote: man you guys shitting on Dig so hard lmao
They deserve it.
No, they don't, their jungler and shotcaller wasn't playing and was replaced by soloQ player with no competetive Xp, and CLG was really well. chill out
Yes they do.
This is the (most likely) the reason why they played bad, doesn't change the fact that they (as a team) played like shit. And that is exactly what everybody was saying.
It's not like anybody attacked them personally for their performance
Tbh I expect the IPL6 replacement teams to play better than Dignitas played here (not that it would be hard: playing as passive as s2 meta would still have more initiatives from them).
Holy crap, Phreak referencing the old Twitch/Kayle beta days. Anybody remember qtip? Wonder what happened to that guy, he obliterated me (and everyone else) at high ELO back in the days lmao. One trick pony, but damn could he twitch.
Holy shit this is a god damn different team with pr0lly. Nickwu has always been good, and with a second good solo they are putting out absurd map pressure. I've always thought Brunch was solid too, certainly not weak enough for Cop to abuse. This comp is super solid too, man this new coL is fun to watch.
That was so bad. Really? You chase? When you know your team fucking sucks at direct fights? And you let themselves flank me because you try to burst somebody who's got Black Shield at disposal? Just how hard did you shut your brains down, coL? o_o
On April 12 2013 07:39 Alaric wrote: That was so bad. Really? You chase? When you know your team fucking sucks at direct fights? And you let themselves flank me because you try to burst somebody who's got Black Shield at disposal? Just how hard did you shut your brains down, coL? o_o
Idk if this is just a bad day for you, but if you always post like this - why are you still posting? All I see in this thread is you systematically raging/talking shit about anything and everything that happens. Take a chill pill.
On April 12 2013 07:39 Alaric wrote: That was so bad. Really? You chase? When you know your team fucking sucks at direct fights? And you let themselves flank me because you try to burst somebody who's got Black Shield at disposal? Just how hard did you shut your brains down, coL? o_o
Idk if this is just a bad day for you, but if you always post like this - why are you still posting? All I see in this thread is you systematically raging/talking shit about anything and everything that happens. Take a chill pill.
Always been like that, I notice the bad more easily than the good. Plus I don't want to get my hopes up so I refrain from jinxing coL (although I think Dig doesn't deserve it, I'm still a fan so obviously Curse losing would keep them in the race).
Edit²: stream seems down? Azubu one.
Man pr0lly needs to mash harder, even when not cc'd he always gets killed without using his ult when Nyjacky just flash-ult-zhonya's. Morgana's ult animation is pretty long actually, can you cut it short with Zhonya's or do you have to wait until it's finished to activate it?
On April 12 2013 07:48 Woony wrote: I just knew col would throw this
you could also say Curse played well and caught them out. Anyway this is the danger of poke comps, as soon as someone gets caught, you lose a teamfight despite being up 10k gold.
On April 12 2013 07:49 sAsImre wrote: lack of zhonya on prolly no ?
On April 12 2013 07:48 Woony wrote: I just knew col would throw this
you could also say Curse played well and caught them out. Anyway this is the danger of poke comps, as soon as someone gets caught, you lose a teamfight despite being up 10k gold.
On April 12 2013 07:39 Alaric wrote: That was so bad. Really? You chase? When you know your team fucking sucks at direct fights? And you let themselves flank me because you try to burst somebody who's got Black Shield at disposal? Just how hard did you shut your brains down, coL? o_o
Idk if this is just a bad day for you, but if you always post like this - why are you still posting? All I see in this thread is you systematically raging/talking shit about anything and everything that happens. Take a chill pill.
Now you know why.
On April 12 2013 07:56 Numy wrote: Didn't he ulti jacky and Jacky just Zhonyaed it?
EDIT: Nvm he just completely missed it on a target that never changed direction.
M Eye A was playing support Kayle, and didn't use his ult while it was obvious he was going to get stunned by Soul Shackles and killed before the 1.5s stun ended. I mean, of course Curse could have relocated during his ult and tried to get him afterwards, but at least the ult would be used (with the respawn timers at that point he would have it up before the next one) and maybe he would have then lived to slow/speed up somebody if the fight didn't go that bad.
On April 12 2013 07:57 Alaric wrote: M Eye A was playing support Kayle, and didn't use his ult while it was obvious he was going to get stunned by Soul Shackles and killed before the 1.5s stun ended. I mean, of course Curse could have relocated during his ult and tried to get him afterwards, but at least the ult would be used (with the respawn timers at that point he would have it up before the next one) and maybe he would have then lived to slow/speed up somebody if the fight didn't go that bad.
Talking about Varus ulti. No idea what you are talking about.
Just noticed Riven has no wards at all. She probably has to burn a lot of her Qs to reach the fight when ClakeyD ults, since GGU tends to kite backwards.
Wtf. MashMe was like glued to MegaZero, and he took ZERO damage from his ult. Can it whiff? o_o
Aaaand MRN try to three-man baron and get aced by GGU who lose only Thresh despite Lux hitting nobody w/ult; Thresh got off a fantastic Box letting Kha'Zix play the reset game.
On April 12 2013 08:52 Alaric wrote: Just noticed Riven has no wards at all. She probably has to burn a lot of her Qs to reach the fight when ClakeyD ults, since GGU tends to kite backwards.
Wtf. MashMe was like glued to MegaZero, and he took ZERO damage from his ult. Can it whiff? o_o
No boots for Riven means Don'tMashMe stays safe; Kha'Zix mops up and GGU win.
All of Marn is really hungry for farm too, apart from Lulu, so it's awkward for Noc to get tanky enough since Riven wants farm, Karthus and Caitlyn too, and...
And forget it, it's over now. Bulwark wouldn't change anything. Man Nocturne's such an awkward pick against teams with disengage.
On April 12 2013 08:52 Alaric wrote: Just noticed Riven has no wards at all. She probably has to burn a lot of her Qs to reach the fight when ClakeyD ults, since GGU tends to kite backwards.
Wtf. MashMe was like glued to MegaZero, and he took ZERO damage from his ult. Can it whiff? o_o
No boots for Riven means Don'tMashMe stays safe; Kha'Zix mops up and GGU win.
Meh, even at Baron Riven managed to get on top of MashMe, and still for some reason he took like no damage (whatever came from Qs/autos was mostly blocked by shields, then for some reason the ult went through him without dealing any damage).
Woah. The MF ult didn't do much (which is always good—crush that spell already, Riot) but similarly Varus utterly missed his ult (there's no Sona in this game so he's got to pick up the slack I guess) beforehand and then Zed destroyed people without even needing to use his ult ("Why BotRK on Zed?" asked GD recently: well, not to be able to kill people with sheer autos and Es says BT Zed ).
On April 12 2013 09:38 Alaric wrote: Woah. The MF ult didn't do much (which is always good—crush that spell already, Riot) but similarly Varus utterly missed his ult (there's no Sona in this game so he's got to pick up the slack I guess) beforehand and then Zed destroyed people without even needing to use his ult.
Btw, are those Bo3?
They should be if they're like the qualifiers at MLG.
It's "double up", not "bullet time". Even the casters are too used to MF being that one-dimensional to remember her other abilities. x)
Strange that Summoners (Team Summon? I didn't quite made the name when they talked about it) didn't try to contest that dragon. Zed's and TF's ults were down, and TF was out of position, while Shen was going to respawn before the drake died. Engaging onto Curse's 3 could have been pretty good to take one or more out before the other 2 could get into position.
720p is looking good enough to me. Also initiating onto Bulwark/Locket Xin seems like a bad idea when his team has 2 means of teleporting across the map and the baron buff. :')
On April 12 2013 09:56 Gahlo wrote: I don't know what's up with Azubu. Their 1080 has looked like 480 today, guess I'm back to youtube tomorrow.
I don't like Azubu's DVR function. It doesn't let me jump to any point only from 10 to 10mins or so, unlike Youtube where I can just press left arrow a couple of times for instant replay.
I found it strange that Summoners went for drake, but then I realised they don't use the countdown timer for those matches. Strange, I thought the game were played with the same setup as LCS?
Damn, TF being oom just saved MF and killed him and Jarvan there.
On April 12 2013 10:21 Slusher wrote: so is pobelter 17 by the 2nd half of the season? I am confused.
Nope. Although this is called a Promotion Qualifier, the 4 teams still in it are playing purely for the prize purse. The 2 spots for up & down were already settled for this before today: Team Summon & 1 Trick Ponies. Quantic and Velocity qualified in the previous one and Crs Academy is ineligible for multiple reasons (being a B team, IWD's ban, age restriction).
On April 12 2013 11:20 Acer1791 wrote: doesnt riot know or why is he even allowed to play there, ofc its not the same game, but you know..
It's not their job to punish somebody for behavior outside of LoL. I would actually be against Riot banning 1g1d for his SC2 past, despite my own misgivings.
I might be a bit late to the party, but Cop had the most nonchalant pentakill I've ever seen. Like, Jacky gets a 4 man ult and somehow Cop just slowly starts killing everything.
I think I'm missing something. I thought Quantic didn't exist any longer. Are they just still using the name or are they actually sponsored by Quantic again?
On April 12 2013 11:49 ketchup wrote: I think I'm missing something. I thought Quantic didn't exist any longer. Are they just still using the name or are they actually sponsored by Quantic again?
On April 12 2013 11:49 ketchup wrote: I think I'm missing something. I thought Quantic didn't exist any longer. Are they just still using the name or are they actually sponsored by Quantic again?
^ we could do without some LoL haters coming to jerk off here and go rumbling about how bad LoL is since they dare to give Deezer a chance and so on. It's not like I'd read their posts, but I'm not sure they'd be worth the calories I'd spend scrolling down.
On April 12 2013 11:50 Kouda wrote: edit: Great choice to pick up Deezer, look how well he did.
im so bitter.
They targeted 3 bans at him then chose a direct lane counterpick to his, though. You've got to admit Quantic would have looked silly if they used everything on him and he still didn't get shut down.
It's very common to ban out a weak player so you can take advantage of them. Like last game where Deezer got outfarmed in a 1v1 lane compared to Hai in a 1v2 lane.
On April 12 2013 12:04 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Oh my god, Guitar you fool. "I can't be bothered to go over 6 hours of footage" Just...
Big mistake, dude. I acknowledge the situation you were in, and I feel for you, but... that's just a terrible decision.
How does a manager act like this? Seriously.
AND thank god this game is pretty much over barring a huge throw by C9.
A lot of "managers" in eSports are really just buddies of pro players or ex-pros who don't have much business acumen and professionalism. I'm not hating on guitar in particular, but it's something I observed over the years of following both SC2 and League of Legends.
Can we stop shitting on gtr about this? It's been fucking done to death. It wasn't the ideal situation to go about doing it, but he had to. Either start managing a team or shut the fuck up already.
You people are giving way too much free "press" to him for making his decision. Just ignore it, and it will work out the way you want more than if you keep talking about it. I'm relatively certain guitar was warned about Deezer pretty well just from TL, and he's choosing a certain method which seems like marketing to me.
Yeah don't give too much shit on guitar doods, like any manager in na teams he probly just follows what the players agree on and pretend he do stuff... pretty funny @ the 6 hours of footage unseen, i had no clue who was deezer, i youtubed his name and saw the first 5 mins of the "discution with catz" or w/e. that did not make it seem like a "little bit of troll", i make him seem like a major asshole.
After the original offline quals Clakey and Nickwu said that Hai was being extremely arrogant talking about how c9 had no chance at losing and how they would crush mrn, so I always just kinda assumed he wasn't a cool dude but he seemed pretty cool in the interview, that said you can tell by the way he said "I don't want to say who will win because I don't want to jinx myself shows he may have learned his lesson.
On April 12 2013 12:31 SagaZ wrote: Yeah don't give too much shit on guitar doods, like any manager in na teams he probly just follows what the players agree on and pretend he do stuff... pretty funny @ the 6 hours of footage unseen, i had no clue who was deezer, i youtubed his name and saw the first 5 mins of the "discution with catz" or w/e. that did not make it seem like a "little bit of troll", i make him seem like a major asshole.
I mean he threatened to rape/murder Destiny's kid, but you know just a lil' troll.
I don't follow SC2 at all, but after browsing thread and simply youtubing "Deezer SC2"........
Wow what a character. I'm amazed Catz engaged in that IQ degenerating conversation as long as he did. I could only listen to 5 minutes and the video was 25. Lol.
On April 12 2013 12:59 sung_moon wrote: I don't follow SC2 at all, but after browsing thread and simply youtubing "Deezer SC2"........
Wow what a character. I'm amazed Catz engaged in that IQ degenerating conversation as long as he did. I could only listen to 5 minutes and the video was 25. Lol.
And I'm sure we've all seen stuff just as bad in soloqueue chat - Can you really blame gtr for not denying a player based on 3 year old trash talk? If we wanted to convince him, we should have gone for proof that he maphacked [is there even proof of this at all? I just see accusations] or some offense more grevious than just being BM.
I'm not defending deezer, I'm defending gtrsrs's decision based on the information he was given. After seeing his video, I'm sure I would have ended up making the same decision as him with the information that was given to me, becasue the only thing we managed to prove to him is that Deezer used to have an impressively shitty attitude, but nothing worse. Considering how many impressively shitty attitudes float around in league, who could really be swayed by that?
According to that vlog, gtrsrs couldn't be bothered to even look at "the information he was given". So you defend that practice? At this point, Deezer should be so far past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt that no one should ever touch him, no matter how desperate. Even if he has truly changed, he will always bring that baggage of having been as big a scumbag as he was wherever he goes, and something like this will happen.
gtr continues to be completely unprofessional and willfully oblivious about the situation. I wonder if its worth bleeding tons of support (even from TL) for his team to use a player who already has a permabanned account and isn't allowed to participate in LCS anyways. lol.
On April 13 2013 00:10 templar rage wrote: According to that vlog, gtrsrs couldn't be bothered to even look at "the information he was given". So you defend that practice? At this point, Deezer should be so far past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt that no one should ever touch him, no matter how desperate. Even if he has truly changed, he will always bring that baggage of having been as big a scumbag as he was wherever he goes, and something like this will happen.
Most of the videos i've seen that people were posting publicly were just full of trash talk and rage from Deezer. I just don't see how that's going to sway anyone who's played more than 10 soloqueue games in league. Considering gtr (or me, for that matter) didn't know that Deezer had a previously permabanned League account until Janook informed us, I don't think trash talk from another game really has enough bearing on gtr's decision making process to sway his decision.
Velocity is still in the "awkward as fuck because we've had so many players taken from us" position they used to be in. They're in a shit situation and are forced to make shitty decisions.
On April 13 2013 00:10 templar rage wrote: According to that vlog, gtrsrs couldn't be bothered to even look at "the information he was given". So you defend that practice? At this point, Deezer should be so far past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt that no one should ever touch him, no matter how desperate. Even if he has truly changed, he will always bring that baggage of having been as big a scumbag as he was wherever he goes, and something like this will happen.
Most of the videos i've seen that people were posting publicly were just full of trash talk and rage from Deezer. I just don't see how that's going to sway anyone who's played more than 10 soloqueue games in league. Considering gtr (or me, for that matter) didn't know that Deezer had a previously permabanned League account until Janook informed us, I don't think trash talk from another game really has enough bearing on gtr's decision making process to sway his decision.
Velocity is still in the "awkward as fuck because we've had so many players taken from us" position they used to be in. They're in a shit situation and are forced to make shitty decisions.
Play 10 games of soloq and show me a screenshot of the bm you witnessed that is similar to the Deezer stuff. Also please dont tell me you are surprised he has a previosly perma banned account. People do not start to be someone else just because they play a different game.
On April 13 2013 00:10 templar rage wrote: According to that vlog, gtrsrs couldn't be bothered to even look at "the information he was given". So you defend that practice? At this point, Deezer should be so far past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt that no one should ever touch him, no matter how desperate. Even if he has truly changed, he will always bring that baggage of having been as big a scumbag as he was wherever he goes, and something like this will happen.
Most of the videos i've seen that people were posting publicly were just full of trash talk and rage from Deezer. I just don't see how that's going to sway anyone who's played more than 10 soloqueue games in league. Considering gtr (or me, for that matter) didn't know that Deezer had a previously permabanned League account until Janook informed us, I don't think trash talk from another game really has enough bearing on gtr's decision making process to sway his decision.
Velocity is still in the "awkward as fuck because we've had so many players taken from us" position they used to be in. They're in a shit situation and are forced to make shitty decisions.
The thing I find most interesting is IWD was only banned for a year when his account was permabanned, Janook makes it seems like Deezer will never be able to play in the LCS. Wonder if this is because Riot is taking past into account when making this decision.
Edit: Nvm reading OP, he says "currently banned." So a permaban is probably a blanket 1 year ban from competitive play.
Personally I can't fault gtrsrs for their decision to pick up Deezer. It was kind of shitty, but he did what he had to do given his lack of outs with pr0lly leaving them high and dry.
What I can fault gtrsrs for is how hard he tried to sell Deezer as a player to the community. The community KNOWS he's an asshole, his image isn't going to fix itself overnight. If you try so hard to sell him to us so quickly, it's not going to fix his image--just ruin yours.
TBH (and I'm possibly being more frank here than I should), I feel like gtrsrs tries a bit too hard to sell his players as "nice guys" when it doesn't actually fit all of their images. Telling us all that they're nice guys when some of them are known ragers in solo queue is just going to raise a lot of eyebrows. From the PR side, you have to sell the player with an image that fits the player. If they're an asshole, sometimes it's just better to sell them as an asshole (prime example being Idra).
Hows that person ever regret what damage he's done when legit teams pick him up. Teammanagers have got a responsibility towards the community, misbehaving persons and the greater E-Sports as a whole. Just a epic fail.
Gonna be off topic here for a second and talk about some games. I'm really looking forward to this CA vs Quantic game. First of all, they are both very, very good teams. And secondly, I'm a huge fan of Pobelter/Altec/ and Dominate. Really cool guys imo, especially baby pobe and ruru. Rhux is good people too. I just wish LightSludge had stayed around as the support, absurdly talented (before his MMR got a bit too high for me to see him in my games much, he was just stomping as Ez/Cait/even Irelia in low 2k games) and a nice guy. Quantic is great too.
Should be an awesome match, pulling for Curse Academy.
EDIT: And how could I forget showing some love to Meteos, one of the people I really respect at his position. The type of guy you see in solo q/on streams and go "Wow, he should be on a pro team". And a few months later, he is :D
Curse B can't be promoted since Curse A is there, IWD is banned from competitive, and Pobelter is too young. Come on, it's been stated last page (or the one before that) and talked about for months now.
I'm really confused. CA sitting with 4 mid and Altec bot against 5 mid from Quantic and yet IWD is initiating on everything and Pobelter is ulting then flashing in behind him. By the time Altec is getting to the fights, 1-2 are always dead. If they want to dive in on Quantic, why is Altec not grouping? Or, if they want Altec to get big, why is IWD diving in anytime he can ult 2-3 ppl?
This is bizarre to watch. I feel like IWD or Altec are not doing what they should be, maybe team just doesn't have a caller.
Edit1: This fight at 36:30 was much better. Pobelter has Zhonyas so he was able to walk in and get a kill/ then Zhonyas, and still had flash to get out. Altec also there since the start. Better spacing on the Locket shields too.Still not seeing how Jayce fits with the rest of this space control+ dive w/ hyper carry that you get with setups like J4 jungle/AoE mid.
Edit2: 39:30 fight was awful. Two people on Janna, and then a fight happening at mid where Altec flashes thru a Draven ult, but not around - dying mid flash to a 200 hp castro.
Edit3: 41:30 is what CA is looking for I guess. Perfect J4/Rumble ults. Jayce comes in with the jump I guess, although I still feel another champ could do it better (why is he not Zed/Elise?). Dominate dies for free but still not bad.
Edit4: 44:00 was good again. Well comboed by Pobe and Dom, and Atomic landed a nice hook on Castro. Castro lived a little longer than he should have, but Rhux finally got thru to him. And Altec is playing absurdly well, its incredibly hard to position as Varus against super tanks like Nasus/Renek when Altec has very minimal peel (really everyone on his team is diving in together and leaving him behind with Thresh).
Edit5: Gonna stop commenting on these fights lol. This is a fun as hell game to watch, but both teams are playing in bizarre ways and are going to kick themselves watching these replays.
Why people refer to gtrsrs as gtr? Thats another guy . Vel lost all my support with that Deezer pickup, come on, there are many more players out there that you can fit into your team. And Gtrsrs goes for the worst choice possible? What was he smoking.
Quantic keep overestimation their own damage against Curse Academy. They need to play a bit more cautious, but it is making for some interesting fights.
By god this game is insane. Gotta give some love to IWD, he's keeping Quantics backline completely locked up for long enough to allow CA to burn down Renek/Nasus (which takes some time). If he wasn't manning up so well these fights would not look very similar. Still questioning why Rhux isn't Zed or Elise (I didn't see bans, maybe that's why?) so he could come in with Dom and kill Castro.
IWD is banned (I've heard talk of shorter term based on good behavior, but that's just idle reddit chitchat), and they have two players that are underage. Don't think Curse can qualify (I think the qualified teams are already decided: Quantic/C9, Summoner Academy, Velocity, and 1TrickPonies). The streamed match is only for the money (and the publicity), I believe.
On April 13 2013 06:23 Alaric wrote: Wait... are you guys looking at VoDs/a rerun, or is there a game being cast before the LCS rather than after today?
That game really showcased the uselessness of the Crocodile in late game teamfights. Does no damage unless you build damage (which is kind of dubious). W-stun is only single target and on a long CD, E-dash also on a long CD.
Also Rumble is a stupid champion and should be permabanned.
On April 13 2013 06:26 Capriccioso wrote: That game really showcased the uselessness of the Crocodile in late game teamfights. Does no damage unless you build damage (which is kind of dubious). W-stun is only single target and on a long CD, E-dash also on a long CD.
Also Rumble is a stupid champion and should be permabanned.
On April 13 2013 06:46 xes wrote: He made up for it with that sick snipe on CrsJr back line.
Yeah: the main thing was the flash into entire enemy team alone to try for a failed E+ignite kill on Lux (when your ulti CD at the time was I think 15-20s) was just questionable (esp as the teamfight was still burning strong).
Wait what. So your chance of going pro basically depends on which of the "pro" team you will be facing? There is a huge difference right now between coL and Vulcan right now.
On April 13 2013 07:52 Sufficiency wrote: Wait what. So your chance of going pro basically depends on which of the "pro" team you will be facing? There is a huge difference right now between coL and Vulcan right now.
There will always be abit of luck involved in a tournament bracket
On April 13 2013 08:15 onlywonderboy wrote: That exhaust, huge FB cockblock
It's the only reason they put Karthus top I feel. Karthus vs Fizz is a horrible matchup, but exhaust keeps Karthus relatively safe until ganks. Still, it's 2 losing lanes (top and bot) versus 1 winning lane (mid). Though the lane matchups were still pretty bad otherwise.
Lambo is just not a good player. It's really questionable that Dig wasn't able to find a better sub; there's many solo queue players better than Lambo, like even I'm a better jungler than him.
On April 13 2013 08:31 Capriccioso wrote: Lambo is just not a good player. It's really questionable that Dig wasn't able to find a better sub; there's many solo queue players better than Lambo, like even I'm a better jungler than him.
There were a couple high Elo players on this forum that vouched for him, it's probably nerves more so than anything.
On April 13 2013 08:31 Capriccioso wrote: Lambo is just not a good player. It's really questionable that Dig wasn't able to find a better sub; there's many solo queue players better than Lambo, like even I'm a better jungler than him.
I mean, he's a diamond level player, so he's clearly very good in soloQ - he just looks outmatched in these matches.
Not hard to tell what happened with Zion though. He tanked the tower on the push and was out to the side with a lot of pressure on him. Just panicked with the tower on him and decided to get his spells off and all in.
On April 13 2013 08:31 Capriccioso wrote: Lambo is just not a good player. It's really questionable that Dig wasn't able to find a better sub; there's many solo queue players better than Lambo, like even I'm a better jungler than him.
It is impossible to tell how someone reacts under pressure until you actually see it. In all likelihood you would choke super hard on that stage.
Crumbzz is really underrated in my opinion. He's the best jungler in NA and has a huge influence on Dignitas' success. Putting him back in the jungle was the best thing that could have happened to Dignitas.
On April 13 2013 09:03 Pantagruel wrote: Crumbzz is really underrated in my opinion. He's the best jungler in NA and has a huge influence on Dignitas' success. Putting him back in the jungle was the best thing that could have happened to Dignitas.
On April 13 2013 09:07 Badboyrune wrote: those mrn bans. its like they figured out what hotshot plays
Yeah I don't know the other bans tbh. HsGG's not even impressive on Shen and Nidalee. Cho makes sense but I'd have banned Lux and Nasus. I would've banned J4 but it's clear MrN wanted him too.
On April 13 2013 09:07 Badboyrune wrote: those mrn bans. its like they figured out what hotshot plays
Yeah I don't know the other bans tbh. HsGG's not even impressive on Shen and Nidalee. Cho makes sense but I'd have banned Lux and Nasus. I would've banned J4 but it's clear MrN wanted him too.
im guessing they just wanted to force him to play something he isnt comfortable with as last time he did that he played karthus. and lost. twice.
also the nidalee ban is probably also targetted at link as i think he has played some pretty good midalee
MRN played that Baron dance perfectly. Didn't start Baron or try to fight CLG and possibly throw the game, just waited for super minions to do all the work for them. GG
I gotta say for how much chauster talks himself up he is actually one of the weakest jungler's i've seen in LCS. His champion pool is a joke and he's too stubborn to admit his mistakes.
On April 13 2013 09:47 Neverhood wrote: I gotta say for how much chauster talks himself up he is actually one of the weakest jungler's i've seen in LCS. His champion pool is a joke and he's too stubborn to admit his mistakes.
Pool is an exaggeration it's much more a champion puddle for chauster.
On April 13 2013 09:37 onlywonderboy wrote: Doubelift is still pretty alright lol.
There all MegaZero had to do was just wait and hold everything until doublelift unstealths... Was more MegaZero failing the duel. Luckily he made up for it later.
HotshotGG was totally useless for the whole game, and that 23min update on hotshot Q being +84 was lol
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Did chauster initiate onto anyone that match that you should be.
... what?
I worded that oddly, all that match I saw chauster constantly only jump onto J4 which just isn't a factor at all I was kind of asking if he got any proper initiations.
On April 13 2013 09:47 Neverhood wrote: I gotta say for how much chauster talks himself up he is actually one of the weakest jungler's i've seen in LCS. His champion pool is a joke and he's too stubborn to admit his mistakes.
Pool is an exaggeration it's much more a champion puddle for chauster.
Yea I think he's either too stubborn or too lazy to learn new ones. It was pretty good in season 2 I think when Olaf/Lee/Mao were beasts but he just hasn't adapted after nerfs outside of jarvan.
On April 13 2013 09:37 onlywonderboy wrote: Doubelift is still pretty alright lol.
There all MegaZero had to do was just wait and hold everything until doublelift unstealths... Was more MegaZero failing the duel. Luckily he made up for it later.
HotshotGG was totally useless for the whole game, and that 23min update on hotshot Q being +84 was lol
I was only half listening to the game but wtf? How can you be a pro playing nasus and have that little Q stacks.
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Did chauster initiate onto anyone that match that you should be.
... what?
I worded that oddly, all that match I saw chauster constantly only jump onto J4 which just isn't a factor at all I was kind of asking if he got any proper initiations.
oh. no in fact his initiation on MRN over an already dead dragon cost CLG their early game lead. Other than that and one other shitty initiation I can't really remember Chauster played pretty poorly.
On April 13 2013 09:37 onlywonderboy wrote: Doubelift is still pretty alright lol.
There all MegaZero had to do was just wait and hold everything until doublelift unstealths... Was more MegaZero failing the duel. Luckily he made up for it later.
HotshotGG was totally useless for the whole game, and that 23min update on hotshot Q being +84 was lol
I was only half listening to the game but wtf? How can you be a pro playing nasus and have that little Q stacks.
Because he probably maxed Q last so he has more teamfight and waveclear presence with W+E. His goal isn't to do damage so farming Q isn't top priority.
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
If he thinks it is his weakest role but he won't let anyone else do it what does that say to you?
Hotshot was a better jungler than this FFS
LOL. No.
If Chauster may have initiated poorly but at least that's 10x better than Hotshot who stands behind his carries and hope they tank for him. They are both bad at getting farmed though.
That said, the dragon fight was not lost on Chauster's initiate. When Link ult missed everyone it was pretty much "Go" for MRN. It doesn't help that Hotshot rushed Spirit Visage against a mostly AD team and could never get his wither on the right target.
On April 13 2013 09:37 onlywonderboy wrote: Doubelift is still pretty alright lol.
There all MegaZero had to do was just wait and hold everything until doublelift unstealths... Was more MegaZero failing the duel. Luckily he made up for it later.
HotshotGG was totally useless for the whole game, and that 23min update on hotshot Q being +84 was lol
I was only half listening to the game but wtf? How can you be a pro playing nasus and have that little Q stacks.
Because he probably maxed Q last so he has more teamfight and waveclear presence with W+E. His goal isn't to do damage so farming Q isn't top priority.
Um you can level Q far faster than that even if it is lvl 1... And farming Q with nasus is always a top priority -.-
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
I'm pretty sure that Diamond on his worst role is worse than Chauster as a jungler... Was that what you were asking?
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
I'm pretty sure that Diamond on his worst role is worse than Chauster as a jungler... Was that what you were asking?
No what I was asking is if Diamond has the least impact of any role on M5. Which is what chaster is saying.
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
I'm pretty sure that Diamond on his worst role is worse than Chauster as a jungler... Was that what you were asking?
No what I was asking is if Diamond has the least impact of any role on M5. Which is what chaster is saying.
I thought he said that his weakest role was Jungle, not that it was the weakest role..
Btw I don't really get the pr0lly hype. Hasn't done amazing on any game after the Ziggs one yet he still gets megahyped in every single game <.< I'd say that Daydreamin' is a more significant addition... Also I'll predict GGU to win.
Nah he said Jungler is the weakest role in that it's completely dependent on the individual roles. Thus it can do nothing if the individual roles are lower than that of the enemy
On April 13 2013 09:47 Neverhood wrote: I gotta say for how much chauster talks himself up he is actually one of the weakest jungler's i've seen in LCS. His champion pool is a joke and he's too stubborn to admit his mistakes.
Pool is an exaggeration it's much more a champion puddle for chauster.
That's a lovely way to put it. I dunno if it's trash talk thread or LCS review material, though. :')
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
If he thinks it is his weakest role but he won't let anyone else do it what does that say to you?
Hotshot was a better jungler than this FFS
Two things, as others have pointed out Hotshot is not a better jungler. Early LCS Chauster looked a lot better. I dunno if others have just improved and he hasn't or if he's slumping/choking.
Second, do you remember why Crumbzz went from Dignitas solo top to jungle after IWillDominate got removed? Jungler is the hardest role for teams to fill. Not only because it's less popular but because it's far more complex than the lanes. Kiwikid has had so little experience in top lane yet looks great but if they picked him or someone else to fill the jungle role it would be an entirely different story.
Finding a good jungler is rough for a team because it's a role that is primarily knowledge and experience based (I'd say the same applies to support too). Chauster has the knowledge part down but not the experience (and he may not even have the knowledge part completely down as Chauster was always known as a strong laner). As bad as he might be doing I'm pretty sure Chauster in the jungle is a lot stronger than some random high elo person or moving Hotshot/LiNk/Aphro into the jungle.
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
I'm pretty sure that Diamond on his worst role is worse than Chauster as a jungler... Was that what you were asking?
No what I was asking is if Diamond has the least impact of any role on M5. Which is what chaster is saying.
? Chauster said that jungler is his weakest role. This means that Chauster is better at support, ad carry, solo mid, and solo top than he is as a jungler. What is difficult to understand?
Support, AD carry, solo top I'm 100% sold on. Haven't seen him mid enough but I don't see why he'd lie.
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
I'm pretty sure that Diamond on his worst role is worse than Chauster as a jungler... Was that what you were asking?
No what I was asking is if Diamond has the least impact of any role on M5. Which is what chaster is saying.
? Chauster said that jungler is his weakest role. This means that Chauster is better at support, ad carry, solo mid, and solo top than he is as a jungler. What is difficult to understand?
Support, AD carry, solo top I'm 100% sold on. Haven't seen him mid enough but I don't see why he'd lie.
It was awhile ago and both have improved immensely but when Chauster and jiji switched for a few months he routinely beat Reginald and Nyjacky in lane during every scrim. Usually by 20-30 CS.
On April 13 2013 09:34 Neverhood wrote: anybody else think chauster chokes pretty hard in lcs? his play and calls just seem so off
He is IMO their biggest problem in LCS but no-one seems to see this.
I think it's pretty obvious he is. He thinks the most highly of himself and he has the least impact of any CLG member.
Eh I'm pretty sure Chauster has stated that jungler is his weakest role out of all 5 so I don't see how that's thinking so highly of oneself.
He thinks it's the weakest because he thinks highly of himself. He's not to blame therefore it must mean he's doing his job and thus just has the least impact. That's partially the thinking involved. Do you think Diamond is the weakest on M5?
I'm pretty sure that Diamond on his worst role is worse than Chauster as a jungler... Was that what you were asking?
No what I was asking is if Diamond has the least impact of any role on M5. Which is what chaster is saying.
? Chauster said that jungler is his weakest role. This means that Chauster is better at support, ad carry, solo mid, and solo top than he is as a jungler. What is difficult to understand?
Support, AD carry, solo top I'm 100% sold on. Haven't seen him mid enough but I don't see why he'd lie.
It was awhile ago and both have improved immensely but when Chauster and jiji switched for a few months he routinely beat Reginald and Nyjacky in lane during every scrim. Usually by 20-30 CS.
Hmm if that's true I'll then be convinced of jungler indeed being Chauster's worst role. This is also a reason CLG might not just want to get rid of him - Chauster in a role he's actually good at would be quite good for numerous teams.
On April 13 2013 10:22 Nos- wrote: wow Daydreamin is kind of impressing me with his support play, that sona kill was pretty much all him
I don't really get it - He only barely managed to kill the most squishy champion in the game and Leblanc falls off incredibly hard late. They're ahead but they need to stay that way because they really won't have strong 5v5s.
On April 13 2013 10:22 Nos- wrote: wow Daydreamin is kind of impressing me with his support play, that sona kill was pretty much all him
I don't really get it - He only barely managed to kill the most squishy champion in the game and Leblanc falls off incredibly hard late. They're ahead but they need to stay that way because they really won't have strong 5v5s.
Twitch and Viktor so underfarmed that it doesn't matter. Also Viktor's midgame and damage will be pretty weak because he uses the Gravity Augment. I guess he want to be able to spam W from afar to setup Twittch ults (especially with Crescendo), but still...
Yep, Pr0lly still not really impressive for the 3rd game in a row <_< So incredibly overhyped...
It's really good for daydreamin' that he's getting some kills when Leblanc is still a factor. Especially after Bulwark is finished, she's really not going to be doing anything. CoL is so far behind they need to pull something incredible off to delay the game long enough
Teamfight could have gone better if Kennen was there ulting the low hp GGU team instead of spending his ult to chase someone somewhere completely seperated and then die to requiem
I also don't understand augment W on Viktor, it has 7% lower win% than augment E and it's still not exactly long range. I think there's far better choices for a ranged hard CC AP carry.
On April 13 2013 10:41 Alaric wrote: Wtf is Kennen's build? o_o
He's probably trying to show off or something by building dumb items. There's a reason why something like Abyssal Zhonyas is common on Kennen. He really isn't doing much. I guess it's to keep his KDA above 1:0 or something like that... Still cannot see a build like that being good outside of solo queue(or even in solo queue).
Well, this was a really huge snowball. Theoretically CoL's teamfight lategame is awesome, but no way to get there with the godawful amounts of poke+disengage that GGU had.
On April 13 2013 11:31 red_ wrote: I missed the beginning, sounds like Crs just got seriously out maneuvered with lane assignments/matchups?
Crs's didnt abuse their strat at all.Because mid is such a short lane and diana has a good wave clear Regi got a good cs number and Voyboy got zoned like crazy.
On April 13 2013 11:31 red_ wrote: I missed the beginning, sounds like Crs just got seriously out maneuvered with lane assignments/matchups?
Crs's didnt abuse their strat at all.Because mid is such a short lane and diana has a good wave clear Regi got a good cs number and Voyboy got zoned like crazy.
Crs fought with TSM lvl 2 at the Crs blue. Regi pushed up mid so didn't miss any CS but voy was pulled from top with wave at his tower so it pushed back and Turtle got to freeze it. That basically made the next 8 mins a 4v5 since voy had to just roam around and clear jungle
This game is boring,,,for a two top NA teams, this kind of match is dissapointing. Curse maybe just want to try out new strat but got outpicked seriously.
I have no idea what happened with Crs in the game from champ select to end. Are they all drunk or something? Completely outpicked and outplayed that game. Probably the worst performance by Crs all season
On April 13 2013 11:38 Slow Motion wrote: I have no idea what happened with Crs in the game from champ select to end. Are they all drunk or something? Completely outpicked and outplayed that game. Probably the worst performance by Crs all season
Crs champ select was fine, but that lvl 2-3 fight at the 3 min mark around blue was /huge/ just the casters didn't really talk about it enough
TSM got the minions to snowball toward them in top/mid before that blue fight, so WildTurtle had 15 minions at his tower at the end of it and Voyboy got to sit around twittling his thumbs in mid.
On April 13 2013 11:38 Slow Motion wrote: I have no idea what happened with Crs in the game from champ select to end. Are they all drunk or something? Completely outpicked and outplayed that game. Probably the worst performance by Crs all season
Crs champ select was fine, but that lvl 2-3 fight at the 3 min mark around blue was /huge/ just the casters didn't really talk about it enough
I don't think the champ select was good at all when TSM pretty much got Crs strongest team comp and Crs ended up with Saint playing Nautilus.
lol another league game just showing how lame it can be at times. all that matters is farm basically
tsm did that big fight at the blue at 2-3 minutes while the wave was pushing to their towers. meaning after the fight they got tons of farm by being able to be protected by their towers and the other team is zoned out lmao
this near random crap can happen in pro games ALL THE TIME i see it constantly in korean games one carry gets more time to chill near his tower and farm, and that team almost always wins
however the koreans are starting to realize this and they are taking more measures to mediate the damage done by this factor but its still kinda annoying
also why the hell is sona not banned lmao. any time you lose to sona you deserved it imo thats curses second big mistake
On April 13 2013 11:51 centergoliath4 wrote: lol another league game just showing how lame it can be at times. all that matters is farm basically
tsm did that big fight at the blue at 2-3 minutes while the wave was pushing to their towers. meaning after the fight they got tons of farm by being able to be protected by their towers and the other team is zoned out lmao
this near random crap can happen in pro games ALL THE TIME i see it constantly in korean games one carry gets more time to chill near his tower and farm, and that team almost always wins
however the koreans are starting to realize this and they are taking more measures to mediate the damage done by this factor but its still kinda annoying
Or maybe, just maybe, you know, it so happens that mid lane is harder to get zoned in than sidelanes, and maybe, just maybe, you know, Diana has tremendous pushing power compared to Akali pre-6. But no, that's probably just entirely a matter of "random crap" and the problem isn't at all that, as Yango pointed out, while zoned in his lane Voyboy had almost nothing to do on the whole map during those early levels.
On April 13 2013 11:34 Caphe wrote: This game is boring,,,for a two top NA teams, this kind of match is dissapointing. Curse maybe just want to try out new strat but got outpicked seriously.
I don't understand why Curse plays solid and standard vs bottom teams and then bust out random inconsistent strats vs top teams.
On April 13 2013 11:34 Caphe wrote: This game is boring,,,for a two top NA teams, this kind of match is dissapointing. Curse maybe just want to try out new strat but got outpicked seriously.
I don't understand why Curse plays solid and standard vs bottom teams and then bust out random inconsistent strats vs top teams.
Yeah, that makes no sense. They should be confident in their own strategies but it looks like they feel they need to change things up and surprise the top teams. It's not like innovation doesn't work but Curse brings things out for no reason and hope they work. This was the most apparent when they played KT and picked Nautilus support and the viewers get to hear Elementz saying "I'm not scurred."
Curse vs TSM woulda been more entertaining if they had something to win for. Both teams are fixed in at 1st and 3rd respectively regardless of results.
On April 13 2013 13:19 Cubu wrote: Curse vs TSM woulda been more entertaining if they had something to win for. Both teams are fixed in at 1st and 3rd respectively regardless of results.
TSM is in contention for second with this win. Curse should feel really lucky that Dignitas did so bad this week.
On April 13 2013 13:19 Cubu wrote: Curse vs TSM woulda been more entertaining if they had something to win for. Both teams are fixed in at 1st and 3rd respectively regardless of results.
Err, any of the top 3 could finish 1st through 3rd still. Not that it is in any way likely to happen, but everyone still has 5 games to play, and thus Crs could still end with 10 losses(0-5), which puts them behind 3-2 finishes by either Dig or TSM.
A more realistic scenario: they lose to Dignitas and then throw a game they should win vs one of the lesser teams, which would open the gates to the winner of the Dig-TSM game to tie them for first(and then I have no idea how tiebreakers work). I don't see Crs going worse than 3-2, so if Dig/TSM lose any games aside from that head-to-head they're playing for second.
On April 13 2013 13:19 Cubu wrote: Curse vs TSM woulda been more entertaining if they had something to win for. Both teams are fixed in at 1st and 3rd respectively regardless of results.
Err, any of the top 3 could finish 1st through 3rd still. Not that it is in any way likely to happen, but everyone still has 5 games to play, and thus Crs could still end with 10 losses(0-5), which puts them behind 3-2 finishes by either Dig or TSM.
A more realistic scenario: they lose to Dignitas and then throw a game they should win vs one of the lesser teams, which would open the gates to the winner of the Dig-TSM game to tie them for first(and then I have no idea how tiebreakers work). I don't see Crs going worse than 3-2, so if Dig/TSM lose any games aside from that head-to-head they're playing for second.
On April 13 2013 13:19 Cubu wrote: Curse vs TSM woulda been more entertaining if they had something to win for. Both teams are fixed in at 1st and 3rd respectively regardless of results.
Err, any of the top 3 could finish 1st through 3rd still. Not that it is in any way likely to happen, but everyone still has 5 games to play, and thus Crs could still end with 10 losses(0-5), which puts them behind 3-2 finishes by either Dig or TSM.
A more realistic scenario: they lose to Dignitas and then throw a game they should win vs one of the lesser teams, which would open the gates to the winner of the Dig-TSM game to tie them for first(and then I have no idea how tiebreakers work). I don't see Crs going worse than 3-2, so if Dig/TSM lose any games aside from that head-to-head they're playing for second.
It's head to head then tiebreaker match bo1.
Ok well head-head is 2-2 Crs-TSM, and would be 2-2 Crs-Dig in my hypothetical, so we'd have a sick tiebreaker match. That sounds fun as shit, hope it happens now.
On April 13 2013 13:19 Cubu wrote: Curse vs TSM woulda been more entertaining if they had something to win for. Both teams are fixed in at 1st and 3rd respectively regardless of results.
Err, any of the top 3 could finish 1st through 3rd still. Not that it is in any way likely to happen, but everyone still has 5 games to play, and thus Crs could still end with 10 losses(0-5), which puts them behind 3-2 finishes by either Dig or TSM.
A more realistic scenario: they lose to Dignitas and then throw a game they should win vs one of the lesser teams, which would open the gates to the winner of the Dig-TSM game to tie them for first(and then I have no idea how tiebreakers work). I don't see Crs going worse than 3-2, so if Dig/TSM lose any games aside from that head-to-head they're playing for second.
Well, I'm just reading off what leaguepedia says, but yeah, 5 games left and looking at the win loss ratio, it could change.
As Vlad wouldn't u rather sit on Revolver and get something like Abyssal/Rylais/Hourglass and then eventually turn it into a WoTa rather than turn it into a Spectral Wraith with a Karthus on your team???
On April 13 2013 14:53 sung_moon wrote: As Vlad wouldn't u rather sit on Revolver and get something like Abyssal/Rylais/Hourglass and then eventually turn it into a WoTa rather than turn it into a Spectral Wraith with a Karthus on your team???
Wrong tab?
Riven doing well + TSM beats CRS? Sounds like a good Friday to me.
CLG will never improve with chauster jungle and HSGG in the team. Chauster has been jungle for over 6 months now and still plays two champions, and HSGG is just bad.
I try and support CLG but when you have the same problems for over a year and don't change it is just mind boggling.
Curse made a crappy call on that blue buff imho. They had to choose between 2 lanes pushing to their turret, or blue buff. I would choose the farm every time. But i did likei their double assasins + triple CC team. Would like to see how that one would turn out if they had 100cs more on Akali when the fighting started.
On April 13 2013 14:53 sung_moon wrote: As Vlad wouldn't u rather sit on Revolver and get something like Abyssal/Rylais/Hourglass and then eventually turn it into a WoTa rather than turn it into a Spectral Wraith with a Karthus on your team???
Wrong tab?
Riven doing well + TSM beats CRS? Sounds like a good Friday to me.
Nah during the GGU/Dig game, Zion went for that. Just seemed to me making that Revolver into a later WoTa would of been better, especially with a Karthus/Nasus on the team.
On April 13 2013 14:53 sung_moon wrote: As Vlad wouldn't u rather sit on Revolver and get something like Abyssal/Rylais/Hourglass and then eventually turn it into a WoTa rather than turn it into a Spectral Wraith with a Karthus on your team???
Wrong tab?
Riven doing well + TSM beats CRS? Sounds like a good Friday to me.
Nah during the GGU/Dig game, Zion went for that. Just seemed to me making that Revolver into a later WoTa would of been better, especially with a Karthus/Nasus on the team.
Oh, he was using a Vlad build from Maknoon(iirc) that was used pretty effectively.
On April 13 2013 14:53 sung_moon wrote: As Vlad wouldn't u rather sit on Revolver and get something like Abyssal/Rylais/Hourglass and then eventually turn it into a WoTa rather than turn it into a Spectral Wraith with a Karthus on your team???
Wrong tab?
Riven doing well + TSM beats CRS? Sounds like a good Friday to me.
Nah during the GGU/Dig game, Zion went for that. Just seemed to me making that Revolver into a later WoTa would of been better, especially with a Karthus/Nasus on the team.
Oh, he was using a Vlad build from Maknoon(iirc) that was used pretty effectively.
Reapered built it in OGN. Spectral Wraith is super cost effective and the only item in the game that gives Spell Vamp/CDR. Interestingly enough he didn't grab grab distortion boots which was a big part of Reapered's build being so annoying.
On April 13 2013 14:53 sung_moon wrote: As Vlad wouldn't u rather sit on Revolver and get something like Abyssal/Rylais/Hourglass and then eventually turn it into a WoTa rather than turn it into a Spectral Wraith with a Karthus on your team???
Wrong tab?
Riven doing well + TSM beats CRS? Sounds like a good Friday to me.
Nah during the GGU/Dig game, Zion went for that. Just seemed to me making that Revolver into a later WoTa would of been better, especially with a Karthus/Nasus on the team.
Oh, he was using a Vlad build from Maknoon(iirc) that was used pretty effectively.
Reapered built it in OGN. Spectral Wraith is super cost effective and the only item in the game that gives Spell Vamp/CDR. Interestingly enough he didn't grab grab distortion boots which was a big part of Reapered's build being so annoying.
Right, that was it. I'm always half awake and passing out in the middle of OGN games =[
Wow just watched CLG vs MRN that was a pretty cool game ! Nice to see Riven being played and even more owning, also dat 1v1 between Megazero and DL was awesome
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