Wow, what happened to Dragonborns? Spontexx and Malunoo gone, replaced by YamatoCanon and Dexter. Deman mentioned something about an argument after one of last week's games, must have been some stink.
On March 22 2013 10:18 Amarok wrote: Wow, what happened to Dragonborns? Spontexx and Malunoo gone, replaced by YamatoCanon and Dexter. Deman mentioned something about an argument after one of last week's games, must have been some stink.
Wow, thats really nice news. You could see that those two were constantly refusing to peel for the action-hungry beasts hosan and shusei. Spontexx was usually afk farming all game and malunoo was an overconservative jungler. Someone could definitely argue against this overaggressive craziness, but nothing is worse for a team than being schizophrenic. All in all, DB's obvious lategame immaturity and earlygame power dictate drastic, uncompromising course of actions as optimal strategy. Thats how they won their games anyway...
On March 23 2013 19:04 Chrispy wrote: Wow crazy crowds. Like a real sporting event haha. Damn Frenchies.
Iron squid and tales of the lane has shown how insane French crowds are I wish there were more international tournaments in france (Also more polish tournaments would be cool) Nanouk so calm reversed it so well O.O
On March 23 2013 19:24 Chrispy wrote: First EU LCS game I've ever seen quite awesome so far.
Both teams are not in the EU LCS btw. But easily as good as the lower tier EU LCS game. And yes the games are generally a little better than the NA ones.
dont want to hate on NA but man, EU apcarrys are just so much ahead (even non lcs ones). This game was more interesting than any game on Wednesday and than half of Thursday
On March 23 2013 21:07 Lysanias wrote: the breaks inbetween are still to bloody long. When will ESL get 4 booths instead of 2 so we can start in time.
So far they are even ahead of time. I am positively surprised.
No idea about the actual time they plan but it's the talk inbetween that's going to the ludacris levels of boredom, downtime is always bad, but when it's 20min+ it's starting to get silly.
On March 23 2013 21:07 Lysanias wrote: the breaks inbetween are still to bloody long. When will ESL get 4 booths instead of 2 so we can start in time.
So far they are even ahead of time. I am positively surprised.
No idea about the actual time they plan but it's the talk inbetween that's going to the ludacris levels of boredom, downtime is always bad, but when it's 20min+ it's starting to get silly.
Last match was a bo3 that only needed 2 games. So of course its going to take some time. Because normally you dont tell the next 2 teams to be ready an hour in advance in case its only 2 games.
On March 23 2013 21:07 Lysanias wrote: the breaks inbetween are still to bloody long. When will ESL get 4 booths instead of 2 so we can start in time.
So far they are even ahead of time. I am positively surprised.
No idea about the actual time they plan but it's the talk inbetween that's going to the ludacris levels of boredom, downtime is always bad, but when it's 20min+ it's starting to get silly.
Last match was a bo3 that only needed 2 games. So of course its going to take some time. Because normally you dont tell the next 2 teams to be ready an hour in advance in case its only 2 games.
How is that relivent, wether they play 2 games or 3 it matters not, players of the next team will only be able to set up after ther pref team is done, that is why it's taking that long. And that is what i whine about.
On March 23 2013 21:53 Fusilero wrote: Oh my it's gangplank now that's a poor fellow isn't gp supposed to be really bad in S3 though?
He got some playtime in LPL as well this week.
On March 23 2013 21:53 Fusilero wrote: I don't understand how did these 4 qualify? Was it really just playing ranked 5s
The top 8 from the EUW ladder and top 8 from the EU-NE ladder played a prequalifier. But a lot of good teams weren't in the top 8 because they didn't know this is how it works so they didn't play ranked 5s.
Well somehow i doubt aTn is going for another troll team compesition. MST isn't looking that impressive but it's amusing they do atleast make aTn sweat.
On March 23 2013 22:37 Caphe wrote: Hmm, Riot brought Deman to NA just to cast NA LCS w/o any crowd and left this awesome crowd in EU with this 2 casters? Come on Riot!
But how else is this crowd supposed to know that ahri's Q scales with AP
On March 23 2013 22:37 Caphe wrote: Hmm, Riot brought Deman to NA just to cast NA LCS w/o any crowd and left this awesome crowd in EU with this 2 casters? Come on Riot!
But how else is this crowd supposed to know that ahri's Q scales with AP
On March 24 2013 00:46 Lylat wrote: Focusing Volibear lol...
Also why fight at all if Dragon is already gone. Giants have been distinctly unimpressive over the last weeks, and its continuing. For me the weakest team in EU LCS atm.
This crowd lol. Makes me proud as a former Lille student, went to a good numbers of concerts in that venue, after drinking crazy belgian beers. Good times.
So far they have been able to keep up with the schedule, now they are almost an hour behind. Still better than expected. I suspect that is because its not the ESL people organizing this.
This is the worst kind of choice making a team can make, putting nasus top against renekton is just asking to get destroyed in lane not being able to pressure anything. Nasus is way faster than shen in the jungle and is way better than shen in a "passive" slow game than shen in the jungle while Shen can easily hold his own 1v1 against renekton and not get way outfarmed.
Well Nasus is actually doing fine now. Renekton can't bully him out of lane, he is behind in cs, but as the casters have said he is farming his Q fine. Early on he was in danger of dying 1v1 at times, but now he is always near full health. Now at the 16min mark Nasus is bullying Renekton.
He is weak and fell weak, Shen is never leaving the top half of the map to allow Nasus to not die from a gank. (Shlaya seems not confortable against Froggen's Cass either and it's not helping) EG respond accordingly and collapse on bot and get a second baron because they have nothing to worry about in the other sides of the map.
Edit: Hope he doesn't lose the fight before being able to use is Q in teamfight.
On March 24 2013 02:25 Keniji wrote: with varus getting hooked im pretty sure they would have lost that fight even with fredy with them.
They wanted to engage earlier but Nasus got taken down to half hp by Cass for no reason. That forced them into an awkward situation which lead to the hook
On March 24 2013 02:23 Dan HH wrote: Fredy just lost them the game.
what happened
He was behind the dragon pit hesitating between the upper and lower entrance while everyone else was around the pit, EG engaged 5v4. He had at least 30 seconds to get to his team before the engage but he just walked back and forth and ended up being a spectator in the teamfight.
Well Nasus gets caught this time. They were trying for a flanking maneuver but Nasus was spotted by a ward so EG just turned on him after taking the turret.
Nasus strongest 1v1 champion this game, but having a lot of trouble getting in the team fights. Dies before a team fight and now dies after the team fight ends.
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
100% agree, i don't think even aAa understood why they switched those 2 up
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
Watch the deciding teamfight again. He was at 90% HP when EG engaged but he hesitated between flanking or joining his team and ended up not participating at all.
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
Watch the deciding teamfight again. He was at 90% HP when EG engaged but he hesitated between flanking or joining his team and ended up not participating at all.
that girl is french? LCS production(eu or na) is always off the charts, even the interviews are pretty good even though this particular one wasn't amazing.
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
Watch the deciding teamfight again. He was at 90% HP when EG engaged but he hesitated between flanking or joining his team and ended up not participating at all.
On March 24 2013 02:45 IshinShishi wrote: that girl is french? LCS production(eu or na) is always off the charts, even the interviews are pretty good even though this particular one wasn't amazing.
I thought she was Belgian like Krepo, considering her first name is Dutch.
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
Watch the deciding teamfight again. He was at 90% HP when EG engaged but he hesitated between flanking or joining his team and ended up not participating at all.
He went to wraiths to heal off them to get back to 90% hp I believe but I'll check it out.
Yeah but that was way before the teamfight. He started going towards mid at full HP right when Krepo landed the hook and EG engaged 5v4.
Yea I'm not denying that. From my pov they wanted to engage a lot sooner but couldn't because of that earlier damage(Around 7:52:42) then he got chunked again at around 7:53:10 and left to go mid while his team was sitting in limbo wanting to engage. Don't know how much of that is Nasus's fault or Freddy for some questionable play.
It could have been a bad team call. I think trying to fight that in the first place was bad by them but they had to try something. It didn't help that their big damage dealer was too busy trying to be cute.
On March 24 2013 02:45 IshinShishi wrote: that girl is french? LCS production(eu or na) is always off the charts, even the interviews are pretty good even though this particular one wasn't amazing.
I thought she was Belgian like Krepo, considering her first name is Dutch.
So... She speaks French and thus she is Belgian since her name is Dutch?
On March 24 2013 02:31 Numy wrote: Think this game shows the reasons Nasus has been played more in the jungle as a supportive role rather than a farmer.
nah its the way he plays Nasus is bad,no team presence and only knows farming.
Well he was getting dominated early game and had to build full armour. So by the time he was ok in lane he was getting completely dominated by Cass. He has no gapclosers and doesn't provide the team any support. By the time he was in the fight he was half HP from Cass. Dunno just feels like Nasus jungle Shen top would have been way better.
Watch the deciding teamfight again. He was at 90% HP when EG engaged but he hesitated between flanking or joining his team and ended up not participating at all.
His team misplayed that. If he goes bot, EG runs mid and takes the inner turret. You can't dragon dance bot side with a creep stack building mid if they can kite you.
On March 24 2013 02:45 IshinShishi wrote: that girl is french? LCS production(eu or na) is always off the charts, even the interviews are pretty good even though this particular one wasn't amazing.
I thought she was Belgian like Krepo, considering her first name is Dutch.
So... She speaks French and thus she is Belgian since her name is Dutch?
Also I don't know if you guys use Twitter, but Ed Ward is probably my new favorite person on Twitter. He was trying to mediate the Twitter drama between Chaox and Doublelift and was saying how Chaox reminded him of how he 6 months ago. He really has seemed to clean up his BM a lot.
On March 24 2013 03:04 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I don't know if you guys use Twitter, but Ed Ward is probably my new favorite person on Twitter. He was trying to mediate the Twitter drama between Chaox and Doublelift and was saying how Chaox reminded him of how he 6 months ago. He really has seemed to clean up his BM a lot.
A good support takes care of all adcs all the time.
On March 24 2013 03:04 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I don't know if you guys use Twitter, but Ed Ward is probably my new favorite person on Twitter. He was trying to mediate the Twitter drama between Chaox and Doublelift and was saying how Chaox reminded him of how he 6 months ago. He really has seemed to clean up his BM a lot.
A good support takes care of all adcs all the time.
I'm not sure diving in there with Khazix was a good idea by Darien. With a blitz in the middle of the pack you can't really blow anyone up - he just ults you and you can't do anything.
not just a good game for tf play but a good game for "how to play when TF isn't with the team" play. I really feel like a lot of this goes back to Gambits choice to intentionally not take bottom tower after killing s0az, needed more of the map vs a tf and they never forced the issue until he was huge.
Compare to TSM vs CLG or Dig vs Curse in NA LCS, game like this Gambit vs Fnatic is on another level. People say EU got the edge right now, I think it is widening as S3 going on. Xpeke played awesome this game, top notch performance while Alex Ich kind of out of condition for Gambit.
On March 23 2013 22:37 Caphe wrote: Hmm, Riot brought Deman to NA just to cast NA LCS w/o any crowd and left this awesome crowd in EU with this 2 casters? Come on Riot!
But how else is this crowd supposed to know that ahri's Q scales with AP
Fairly sure I said the true damage scales with ap, scaling true damage was fairly rare once at least.
On March 24 2013 04:00 Caphe wrote: Compare to TSM vs CLG or TSM vs Curse in NA LCS, game like this Gambit vs Fnatic is on another level. People say EU got the edge right now, I think it is widening as S3 going on. Xpeke played awesome this game, top notch performance while Alex Ich kind of out of condition for Gambit.
Curse v dig would probably be closer but in general I agree, the games seem to be closer/more competitive in EU.
yeah gambit lost the game because they didnt take any towers, and then it got to a point where they couldnt take towers.. shows how important towers are tbh
On March 24 2013 04:00 Caphe wrote: Compare to TSM vs CLG or TSM vs Curse in NA LCS, game like this Gambit vs Fnatic is on another level. People say EU got the edge right now, I think it is widening as S3 going on. Xpeke played awesome this game, top notch performance while Alex Ich kind of out of condition for Gambit.
Curse v dig would probably be closer but in general I agree, the games seem to be closer/more competitive in EU.
I was meant to put Curse vs Dig in there. But even compare Curse vs Dig. EU is just ahead now, there is no denial to it.
On March 24 2013 04:00 Caphe wrote: Compare to TSM vs CLG or TSM vs Curse in NA LCS, game like this Gambit vs Fnatic is on another level. People say EU got the edge right now, I think it is widening as S3 going on. Xpeke played awesome this game, top notch performance while Alex Ich kind of out of condition for Gambit.
Curse v dig would probably be closer but in general I agree, the games seem to be closer/more competitive in EU.
I was meant to put Curse vs Dig in there. But even compare Curse vs Dig. EU is just ahead now, there is no denial to it.
Against the top teams yes i agree, if they were to compete i think vs SK and below they might have a shot of actualy beating them, i doubt a Curse or Dignitas atm would end up on the bottum of even the EU LCS.
The French crowd just fell in love with the hostess it seems. (Or maybe they did from the first interview onward, I wasn't watching till this match. >>)
I only watch SC2 and randomly chose the LoL stream but good on ya, I especially loved the French (wish Stephano would be able to do that) interview, and how your cheers were just as loud when the French talked was amazing and shots of players signing autographs is so cool, why do they not show SC2 players doing that would be great PR.
On March 24 2013 04:00 Caphe wrote: Compare to TSM vs CLG or TSM vs Curse in NA LCS, game like this Gambit vs Fnatic is on another level. People say EU got the edge right now, I think it is widening as S3 going on. Xpeke played awesome this game, top notch performance while Alex Ich kind of out of condition for Gambit.
Curse v dig would probably be closer but in general I agree, the games seem to be closer/more competitive in EU.
I was meant to put Curse vs Dig in there. But even compare Curse vs Dig. EU is just ahead now, there is no denial to it.
Against the top teams yes i agree, if they were to compete i think vs SK and below they might have a shot of actualy beating them, i doubt a Curse or Dignitas atm would end up on the bottum of even the EU LCS.
This stuff is kind of hard to predict anyway becasue of somewhat different play styles etc. But what I am sure of is that EU LCS is much more fun to watch atm.
I know i'm in love, always smiling and none of the awkwardness she used to have.
Ganbit really like trading drake for towers, in a way you're getting more out of a drake provided you can catch up on towers later on... but yeah loss of map control is sometimes too big to overcome. Definitely more refined games than NA LCS.
On March 24 2013 04:00 Caphe wrote: Compare to TSM vs CLG or TSM vs Curse in NA LCS, game like this Gambit vs Fnatic is on another level. People say EU got the edge right now, I think it is widening as S3 going on. Xpeke played awesome this game, top notch performance while Alex Ich kind of out of condition for Gambit.
Curse v dig would probably be closer but in general I agree, the games seem to be closer/more competitive in EU.
I was meant to put Curse vs Dig in there. But even compare Curse vs Dig. EU is just ahead now, there is no denial to it.
Against the top teams yes i agree, if they were to compete i think vs SK and below they might have a shot of actualy beating them, i doubt a Curse or Dignitas atm would end up on the bottum of even the EU LCS.
This stuff is kind of hard to predict anyway becasue of somewhat different play styles etc. But what I am sure of is that EU LCS is much more fun to watch atm.
Fully agree, EU is willing to change it up and addapt waaaaay better then NA wich simply makes for fantastic games, instead of going for the 4 min tower kill and then be clueless about what to do next. Wich means it's going back to passive farming fest.
On March 24 2013 04:15 DeathProfessor wrote: Wow y'all giving me some nerd chills, dat crowd!
I only watch SC2 and randomly chose the LoL stream but good on ya, I especially loved the French (wish Stephano would be able to do that) interview, and how your cheers were just as loud when the French talked was amazing and shots of players signing autographs is so cool, why do they not show SC2 players doing that would be great PR.
ok, hope everyone was serious in the recommended games polls, I got time to watch 1 game and the 100% recommend on Gambit vs Fnatic is making me very excited :-)
On March 24 2013 05:33 pfff wrote: ok, hope everyone was serious in the recommended games polls, I got time to watch 1 game and the 100% recommend on Gambit vs Fnatic is making me very excited :-)
It's gambit vs fnatic and it's as good as you'd think it'd be.
On March 24 2013 05:42 nafta wrote: Jax pick before their top and vs nasus.What could possibly go wrong?
Well I think they had a pretty good idea what Darien could play after 3 of his champions are banned. Because its not much. This must have been SKs plan from the start. Although I guess Gambit will play 2v1 in top now.
Im getting so conflicted.. i wanted Fnatic to win that last game, but i need alexish to do well to show that untoushable status. Feels really good to see him and gambit doing good this game ^^
I don't think Alex did badly vs Fnatic, Yellowstar and xPeke were just exceptional at stunning the charging bear, and team maneuvering was just superior from Fnatic.
On March 24 2013 04:17 komokun wrote: I know i'm in love, always smiling and none of the awkwardness she used to have.
Ganbit really like trading drake for towers, in a way you're getting more out of a drake provided you can catch up on towers later on... but yeah loss of map control is sometimes too big to overcome. Definitely more refined games than NA LCS.
I was referring more to the fact that she actually speaks French well, with a pretty minor accent, so having guys like SoaZ being asked questions (and answering them) in French certainly seemed to please the crowd.
LMAO, Gambit really hate Ocelot,,, they even stop attack the Nexus just to give time for Nasus and MF to kill Ocelot. Gambit still looks sad cos of their first loss against Fnatic.
Oh man that replay was painful. First he locks Blue card then the 2nd time he fails to lock the Gold in the first rotation and has to wait it out until hyrqbot is dead.
On March 24 2013 06:23 Dan HH wrote: Oh man that replay was painful. First he locks Blue card then the 2nd time he fails to lock the Gold in the first rotation and has to wait it out until hyrqbot is dead.
This was what xPeke did so well in his game as TF today. He always locked the right card the first time through, it was really impressive play.
On March 24 2013 06:20 krutopatkin wrote: Snoopeh looks ridiculous with that beard.
Didnt you know that joining eg, growing that chinstrap is mandatory
Is that a chinstrap? it looks like he started shaving the moustache and around the top of the chin and was late so stopped in the middle of it "fuck it", wiped his face and went out like that.
Jatt asking Snoopeh about Ocelot claim, good manner'd snoopeh talks about the reputation of EU mids in general.
On March 24 2013 06:20 krutopatkin wrote: Snoopeh looks ridiculous with that beard.
Didnt you know that joining eg, growing that chinstrap is mandatory
Is that a chinstrap? it looks like he started shaving the moustache and around the top of the chin and was late so stopped in the middle of it "fuck it", wiped his face and went out like that.
Jatt asking Snoopeh about Ocelot claim, good manner'd snoopeh talks about the reputation of EU mids in general.
On March 24 2013 06:20 krutopatkin wrote: Snoopeh looks ridiculous with that beard.
Didnt you know that joining eg, growing that chinstrap is mandatory
Is that a chinstrap? it looks like he started shaving the moustache and around the top of the chin and was late so stopped in the middle of it "fuck it", wiped his face and went out like that.
Jatt asking Snoopeh about Ocelot claim, good manner'd snoopeh talks about the reputation of EU mids in general.
On March 24 2013 04:17 komokun wrote: I know i'm in love, always smiling and none of the awkwardness she used to have.
Ganbit really like trading drake for towers, in a way you're getting more out of a drake provided you can catch up on towers later on... but yeah loss of map control is sometimes too big to overcome. Definitely more refined games than NA LCS.
I was referring more to the fact that she actually speaks French well, with a pretty minor accent, so having guys like SoaZ being asked questions (and answering them) in French certainly seemed to please the crowd.
It's pretty common to do have a decent French skills when you are Flemish. (Walloonish are just not so good in Dutch, because they got a fucking bad mentality) thats why there is a hate... but in the Netherlands you also can get good French/German speaking skills you can choose between them in high school and ofc English is main second language.
I wish aTn good luck to try to get into the LCS, any LCS team would eat them alive if they keep playing like this, no synergy at all bad calls to engage to meh.
On March 24 2013 20:19 JBright wrote: It would be strange for them to start early especially for the online viewers who only planned to watch the LCS matches.
Welp, looks like they're doing it. There are precedents with IEM.
On March 24 2013 22:20 Tula wrote: How can Giants be late if they started nearly 30 minutes early?
Sorry, but i missed the start of the broadcast, because it was supposed to be 14:00 Cet.
Welp if Wicked gets Zed and Froggen gets anivia the game is basically over from the start.
Such a nonsense, they have lost enough games with those champions.
Not sure about the being late thing either though. Maybe they were required to be at the venue an hour early or something.
With both Zed and Anivia?
Dunno, dont want to check all games. They surely would have though when they were on their 7 games loosing streak. After those 7 losses they went 5-1 with the only loss being to Fnatic. And that is not because the bans against EG are suddenly different. My point is, picks and bans are still way overrated, just like in soloq.
On March 24 2013 23:24 Keniji wrote: wolves had such bad luck that the first few weeks when bjergsen wasn't old enough yet they had the most games of any team.
It's kinda like a blessing in disguise. They mostly lost to the top 4 teams before Bjergsen got to play. They are certainly better with him but at best Wolves might go 50/50 against the likes of Gambit or EG. Now they can focus on beating the other three bot 4 teams.
I think Soaz is super good, like possibly best top in Europe, but even that being true top 3 in the world is a stretch, if EU is the land of the mid laners Asia has soooo many good tops.
On March 24 2013 23:24 Keniji wrote: wolves had such bad luck that the first few weeks when bjergsen wasn't old enough yet they had the most games of any team.
It's kinda like a blessing in disguise. They mostly lost to the top 4 teams before Bjergsen got to play. They are certainly better with him but at best Wolves might go 50/50 against the likes of Gambit or EG. Now they can focus on beating the other three bot 4 teams.
oh true, i just looked it up, also I somehow thought he wasn't there in week 3 when they lost against aaa and db but apparently he was^^
On March 24 2013 23:49 Slusher wrote: I think Soaz is super good, like possibly best top in Europe, but even that being true top 3 in the world is a stretch, if EU is the land of the mid laners Asia has soooo many good tops.
Versitility is sOAZ strength, if you look at pure mechanics perhaps there are better asians.
On March 25 2013 00:27 justiceknight wrote: i forgot what happen to Spontex and malunoo,and DB doesnt look aggressive at all.
They just removed them. Think reasoning they said was Malunoo doesn't fit into team and Spontex wasn't playing well. Questionable decisions since Malunoo was a beast and Spontex while inconsistent still had beastly games I think. Overall they feel weaker now I think.
On March 25 2013 00:51 little fancy wrote: What does he say? Everytime the crowd cheers while they speak french, I feel like I miss something funny. So unfair!
I understood most of it, but its really not that interesting. Just "you are great" etc.
On March 25 2013 00:51 little fancy wrote: What does he say? Everytime the crowd cheers while they speak french, I feel like I miss something funny. So unfair!
first question : how was it varus against renekton (sjokz always asks in french how did the lane matchup go) yellowstar said "in the current meta varus is a really good champ because he has a lot of cc so it's hard for them (the enemies) to jump on us so we can really fight slowly" (? probably meant the kite and stuff, but that's what he said, "fight slowly")
then another question about his family being at Lille today to support him "I would like to thank them all (parents, cousins...), I love them very much but more importantly all of you (crowd), thanks for your support, you guys are really the best... and we want more events like this in france !"
it's the "we want more of these events in france" that drawed the huge roar
On March 25 2013 00:51 little fancy wrote: What does he say? Everytime the crowd cheers while they speak french, I feel like I miss something funny. So unfair!
first question : how was it varus against renekton (sjokz always asks in french how did the lane matchup go) yellowstar said "in the current meta varus is a really good champ because he has a lot of cc so it's hard for them (the enemies) to jump on us so we can really fight slowly" (? probably meant the kite and stuff, but that's what he said, "fight slowly")
then another question about his family being at Lille today to support him "I would like to thank them all (parents, cousins...), I love them very much but more importantly all of you (crowd), thanks for your support, you guys are really the best... and we want more events like this in france !"
it's the "we want more of these events in france" that drawed the huge roar
aAa would be in such a good place had they just let SK have that dragon. They're still doing ok, but that fight was just so unnecessary, especially now that they've taken these turrets.
This Udyr ist pretty weak. He can't really anticipate what is doable and what not. There was no need to dive for the first blood when there was Shen incoming and now he went in to "save" Zed that could just get away and he dies again for no reason.
Anyways, aAa gives it away. Momentum shifts in favour of SK, meh.
I found EU LCS in the Azubu channels list but for some reason it doesn't load and tells me the "video can't be found", anyone has that too? (And twitch is unwatchable even in 360p but that's because it's roughly 6PM here.)
On March 25 2013 01:39 Slusher wrote: I wish someone would tell Jason that Kennen and Zed are like two of the best energy champions for the blue buff in the game.
Well for some reason everybody thinks energy champions dont need blue buffs.
On March 25 2013 01:46 Alaric wrote: I found EU LCS in the Azubu channels list but for some reason it doesn't load and tells me the "video can't be found", anyone has that too? (And twitch is unwatchable even in 360p but that's because it's roughly 6PM here.)
On March 25 2013 01:39 Slusher wrote: I wish someone would tell Jason that Kennen and Zed are like two of the best energy champions for the blue buff in the game.
Well for some reason everybody thinks energy champions dont need blue buffs.
yea but the game directly after Fnatic gave xpeke blue buff 24/7 is it really that hard to figure it out? it's not like blue is worthless on Nasus
EG vs CW is totally 50/50 imo. Both teams have very similar win record and performance over the last few games. Also its the duel of the Danish mid lane stars.
On March 25 2013 01:46 Alaric wrote: I found EU LCS in the Azubu channels list but for some reason it doesn't load and tells me the "video can't be found", anyone has that too? (And twitch is unwatchable even in 360p but that's because it's roughly 6PM here.)
freebox ? :D
NA LCS smoother to watch just because of the time tables. T_T
On March 25 2013 01:49 Dan HH wrote: If Wolves win the next game they climb from 8th to 5th in one day after being there for 5 weeks lol.
Well they said "things will change once they get Bjergsen".
On March 25 2013 02:59 BlackMagister wrote: WTF was that fight. Why did they fight it without Froggen and why did Froggen take so long to get there lol.
Bjergsen caught him in mid while he was running to the fight and he had to run away.
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
Yeah, or even if he'd just cast cull the meek in that bush, all he had to do was press q and she was dead. I'm not sure what Wickd's thinking was there.
league of throws.... EG seriously needs to practice how to deal with split pushes. If they had not gambled on a 4v4 after they forced them off baron they had a great chance to win this game.
edit: to the people saying bjergsen, frankly he should hug Thetess and hold him because he won this game for them after bjergsen was completly nullified. EG lost the game when they got destroyed 4v4, simply because Varus destroyed Renekton and Jarvin while yellowpete couldn't kill anyone.
It was a very close game in the end, but if you want to sum it up in 1 sentence it's that Varus is a better lategame carry than Graves (surprise surprise). Kinda surprised Graves/alistar played so defensive, if you pick that lane you better try to win it.
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
Yeah, or even if he'd just cast cull the meek in that bush, all he had to do was press q and she was dead. I'm not sure if it was BM, or what he was trying to do, but it was really really stupid.
he was trolling he knew shes dead so he just kept running around her for fun, probably didnt expect they will lose the game after gaining that kind of lead LOL
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
pretty much, little 50hp eggplant making the plays.
Also someone need to tell froggen that he needs some sort of CDR on lux :c
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
Yeah, or even if he'd just cast cull the meek in that bush, all he had to do was press q and she was dead. I'm not sure if it was BM, or what he was trying to do, but it was really really stupid.
he was trolling he knew shes dead so he just kept running around her for fun, probably didnt expect they will lose the game after gaining that kind of lead LOL
Yeah, after seeing them on stage together I changed my post cause it was a little harsh. I guess they were just joking around and it ended up having serious consequences - that inhibitor respawn must've been very unexpected.
On March 25 2013 03:04 Aando wrote: Completely different team with Bjergsen on it. Anyone got the LCS stats for Wolves with and without him?
0-9 before, 6-2 now.
If there's an end of the season MVP vote like in basketball or baseball they should give it to Bjergson - that's just crazy how much of an influence he has on CW.
It's really amazing... I mean, it's just great to watch it by itself like any other sport, I don't care about LoL at all right now since I don't play (no time, head full) but just watching this is amazing.
On March 25 2013 03:09 WhiteDog wrote: It's really amazing... I mean, it's just great to watch it by itself like any other sport, I don't care about LoL at all right now since I don't play (no time, head full) but just watching this is amazing.
Yeah same for me, watching LoL with the crowd is like watching football or rugby.
On March 25 2013 03:04 Aando wrote: Completely different team with Bjergsen on it. Anyone got the LCS stats for Wolves with and without him?
0-9 before, 6-2 now.
If there's an end of the season MVP vote like in basketball or baseball they should give it to Bjergson - that's just crazy how much of an influence he has on CW.
First matches with Bjergsen were also a stomp, but i do agree the entire team seems to pull there play up to that of Bjergsen, because after there qualifiers they just sucked balls.
On March 25 2013 03:09 WhiteDog wrote: It's really amazing... I mean, it's just great to watch it by itself like any other sport, I don't care about LoL at all right now since I don't play (no time, head full) but just watching this is amazing.
It's amazing how much better matches are with a sick crowd, in retrospect the matches at IEM Katowice weren't the best but that Polish crowd man.
On March 25 2013 03:04 Aando wrote: Completely different team with Bjergsen on it. Anyone got the LCS stats for Wolves with and without him?
0-9 before, 6-2 now.
If there's an end of the season MVP vote like in basketball or baseball they should give it to Bjergson - that's just crazy how much of an influence he has on CW.
I love bjergsen and i dont like fnatic at all, but i would say xpeke is up there as well
On March 25 2013 03:09 WhiteDog wrote: It's really amazing... I mean, it's just great to watch it by itself like any other sport, I don't care about LoL at all right now since I don't play (no time, head full) but just watching this is amazing.
Yeah same for me, watching LoL with the crowd is like watching football or rugby.
E-sport is bigger and bigger.
I feel similarly, although I found LoL nearly impossible to watch until I'd played it a few times. I've never played hockey or american football but I'm able to follow it - I guess that's a cultural thing though, so if esports got big enough the average person who doesn't play LoL might be able to understand how the game works.
On March 25 2013 03:04 Aando wrote: Completely different team with Bjergsen on it. Anyone got the LCS stats for Wolves with and without him?
0-9 before, 6-2 now.
If there's an end of the season MVP vote like in basketball or baseball they should give it to Bjergson - that's just crazy how much of an influence he has on CW.
I love bjergsen and i dont like fnatic at all, but i would say xpeke is up there as well
Yeah, it's tough - really impossible to say unless xPeke takes a 2 week break and we see how fnatic does without him. :p
They're both great players though and it's a treat to watch them. When they do the all-star game midseason can both xPeke and Bjergsen make it? If so does one of them play top or adc or something?
On March 25 2013 03:17 nafta wrote: I wonder when will people stop picking graves.If you don't win by mid game he is a rather useless carry.
This was Zed's influence more than anything.
Graves and Varus had equal gold for most of the game, but Graves had to be afraid of Zed while EG didn't really have a scary assassin. So Varus had IE, PD, BT, LW while Graves had BT, PD, LW, Warmogs. Infinity Edge vs no Infinity Edge is a world of difference, it had little to do with the champions themselves.
On March 25 2013 03:17 nafta wrote: I wonder when will people stop picking graves.If you don't win by mid game he is a rather useless carry.
This was Zed's influence more than anything.
Graves and Varus had equal gold for most of the game, but Graves had to be afraid of Zed while EG didn't really have a scary assassin. So Varus had IE, PD, BT, LW while Graves had BT, PD, LW, Warmogs. Infinity Edge vs no Infinity Edge is a world of difference, it had little to do with the champions themselves.
Varus does more dmg than graves with equal items.Graves with bt/pd/lw/bf literally did 0 dmg to a jungler 40 minutes in the game.That's just bad.Renek/jarv is just as scary as a zed if not more imo.
On March 25 2013 03:17 nafta wrote: I wonder when will people stop picking graves.If you don't win by mid game he is a rather useless carry.
This was Zed's influence more than anything.
Graves and Varus had equal gold for most of the game, but Graves had to be afraid of Zed while EG didn't really have a scary assassin. So Varus had IE, PD, BT, LW while Graves had BT, PD, LW, Warmogs. Infinity Edge vs no Infinity Edge is a world of difference, it had little to do with the champions themselves.
Varus does more dmg than graves with equal items.Graves with bt/pd/lw/bf literally did 0 dmg to a jungler 40 minutes in the game.That's just bad.Renek/jarv is just as scary as a zed if not more imo.
Being a whole IE down on an AD carry is like the difference between 800 and 500 dps at that point.
On March 25 2013 03:17 nafta wrote: I wonder when will people stop picking graves.If you don't win by mid game he is a rather useless carry.
This was Zed's influence more than anything.
Graves and Varus had equal gold for most of the game, but Graves had to be afraid of Zed while EG didn't really have a scary assassin. So Varus had IE, PD, BT, LW while Graves had BT, PD, LW, Warmogs. Infinity Edge vs no Infinity Edge is a world of difference, it had little to do with the champions themselves.
Varus does more dmg than graves with equal items.Graves with bt/pd/lw/bf literally did 0 dmg to a jungler 40 minutes in the game.That's just bad.Renek/jarv is just as scary as a zed if not more imo.
Being a whole IE down on an AD carry is like the difference between 800 and 500 dps at that point.
Obviously it is.That doesn't mean graves does comparable dmg to varus considering noone gets mr now .
On March 25 2013 03:17 nafta wrote: I wonder when will people stop picking graves.If you don't win by mid game he is a rather useless carry.
This was Zed's influence more than anything.
Graves and Varus had equal gold for most of the game, but Graves had to be afraid of Zed while EG didn't really have a scary assassin. So Varus had IE, PD, BT, LW while Graves had BT, PD, LW, Warmogs. Infinity Edge vs no Infinity Edge is a world of difference, it had little to do with the champions themselves.
Varus does more dmg than graves with equal items.Graves with bt/pd/lw/bf literally did 0 dmg to a jungler 40 minutes in the game.That's just bad.Renek/jarv is just as scary as a zed if not more imo.
Being a whole IE down on an AD carry is like the difference between 800 and 500 dps at that point.
Obviously it is.That doesn't mean graves does comparable dmg to varus considering noone gets mr now .
Yes it does. I agree that not getting MR is dumb, but the full damage of Varus' rotation over Graves' rotation would still be less than 1 second of autoattacks from either champ.
On March 25 2013 03:48 Isken wrote: we got a good look at oce's golden watch
Hahahaha, DEM BLING. His accent is too weird I'm not listening at all.
Says the French guy. :D
I'm from Paris, in french the parisian accent is called "l'accent pointu" which means the sharp accent. I have a hard time with oce because he doesn't pronounce the "sharp" part of all words (mostly consonants) and I don't really like it. It's just annoying, altho I understand it all
On March 25 2013 04:24 Alaric wrote: Why does Kha'Zix never jump away? Is that because they all max E last because of the reset so he just never has it off cd?
Man xPeke totally missed his stuff, hurting only Sona and dying without a single reset, and still almost win for Fnatic. Jimboz with a clutch stun but Wither kept him in Spirit Fire and dead.
On March 25 2013 04:27 Alaric wrote: Man xPeke totally missed his stuff, hurting only Sona and dying without a single reset, and still almost win for Fnatic. Jimboz with a clutch stun but Wither kept him in Spirit Fire and dead.
On March 25 2013 05:00 Zhiroo wrote: I think he meant 'Everytime I try to be Nostradamus (meaning predict something) he fails' not 'Everytime I try to beat'
On March 25 2013 04:57 Aeromi wrote: Yeah, because DB kicked Spontex and he isFrench. To be honest Spontex wasnt the bad guy of the team.
Oh, is that the story behind it? interesting.
Something in pracc went wrong... and this was the result.
Nah, it was when they were against aAa and Spontex decided to back because aAa went for a trade base but others players of the team decided to stay a bit too long.
Moreover, Malunoo the former Curse jungler had been kicked of the team this week.
On March 25 2013 05:13 Fusilero wrote: Did the spell shield not block the wither?
Yeah it didnt. Seems like Hosan also thought it would work against it. This might be a crucial point for this game.
If spell shield doesn't work with wither I wonder what the sivir pick was for I thought that baiting out nasus to waste his late game wither would be huge.
On March 25 2013 05:13 Fusilero wrote: Did the spell shield not block the wither?
Yeah it didnt. Seems like Hosan also thought it would work against it. This might be a crucial point for this game.
If spell shield doesn't work with wither I wonder what the sivir pick was for I thought that baiting out nasus to waste his late game wither would be huge.
Well also for Thresh i guess. Plus as I said Hosan probably thought it would work against Wither. Although now that i think about it, I cant believe it doesnt work. Why would it not?
On March 25 2013 05:29 Lylat wrote: Don't understand the Sivir pick at all
Spell shield against Thresh hooks and Wither. Whats so hard to understand?
Instant cast Wither makes it impossible to block. As soon as Nasus is within 700 range you have to cast it, and then he just waits and Wither when it runs out.
Really boring game. Weird Sivir pick but okay. It's like Dragonborn took the best possible wave clear champs possible predicting they will get pressured hard and then just got defensive the longer the game went letting GMB get more and more map control and farm.
I can understand feeling oppressed and not wanting to engage recklessly but if you are not even fighting while losing 3 inhibitors in less than 3minute you may aswell just surrender.
On March 25 2013 05:29 Lylat wrote: Don't understand the Sivir pick at all
Spell shield against Thresh hooks and Wither. Whats so hard to understand?
The shield blocks the damage and part that brings Sivir to Tresh but doesn't block the latter part that make tresh go to the hooked guy so it's not that good against tresh, against a Blitzcrank it nullifies the whole thing, against a tresh it's just not the same.
Just went back to watch the Wolves v EG game, damn that was a close game. Respawning Inhibitor OP. Really good game though, glad Wolves were able to pick up three wins, they certainly needed them.
Early in the LCS DragonBorns loked like they can ebat everyone and lose to everyne. Now the only thing they are doing is losing. Did they feel off, or other teams merly adapted to them?
On March 25 2013 18:21 Silvanel wrote: Early in the LCS DragonBorns loked like they can ebat everyone and lose to everyne. Now the only thing they are doing is losing. Did they feel off, or other teams merly adapted to them?
On March 25 2013 18:21 Silvanel wrote: Early in the LCS DragonBorns loked like they can ebat everyone and lose to everyne. Now the only thing they are doing is losing. Did they feel off, or other teams merly adapted to them?
Its clearly them that are off now.
Lets hope this team will leave LCS after this season.
On March 25 2013 18:21 Silvanel wrote: Early in the LCS DragonBorns loked like they can ebat everyone and lose to everyne. Now the only thing they are doing is losing. Did they feel off, or other teams merly adapted to them?
And they are still on a losingstreak now. I think it was Krepo (not sure) that got it right there, saying they lost alot of experience and teamplay replacing spontexx and malunoo. I also think its a mistake... They might not be the best at what they do, but they know their roles alot better than the replacements
On March 25 2013 23:11 ihasaKAROT wrote: And they are still on a losingstreak now. I think it was Krepo (not sure) that got it right there, saying they lost alot of experience and teamplay replacing spontexx and malunoo. I also think its a mistake... They might not be the best at what they do, but they know their roles alot better than the replacements
Korean teams replace players all the time. I think its more a problem of individual skill and outdated play style that is hurting them.
I caught up on most of the vods and I think we saw some very good games esp CW vs EG and GG vs Fanatic.
I havent been following LoL very long but what I find interesting is the different playstyles in the EU scene. Its the same way as in the sc2 scene where the players dont just copy from the best but try to find their own style of being successful.
CW and Fanatic lately too playing this 4+1 strategy focused on their star mid players and picking the rest of the team to contemplate him with a utility adc, Lulu ult etc. EG playing this ultra passive in lane and trying to win through teamfights etc.
On March 25 2013 23:11 ihasaKAROT wrote: And they are still on a losingstreak now. I think it was Krepo (not sure) that got it right there, saying they lost alot of experience and teamplay replacing spontexx and malunoo. I also think its a mistake... They might not be the best at what they do, but they know their roles alot better than the replacements
Korean teams replace players all the time. I think its more a problem of individual skill and outdated play style that is hurting them.
You got to replace with the right players though and replace the right players.
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
Yeah, or even if he'd just cast cull the meek in that bush, all he had to do was press q and she was dead. I'm not sure what Wickd's thinking was there.
Super late here, but since no one else seems to have caught this, here it is.
I'm not going to debate the legitimacy of chasing Lulu v. killing the nexus, but given Wickd has already opted to chase and not try for the nexus, I think his play is correct. He doesn't actually gain anything by killing Lulu faster, but he delays her respawn by holding her there, presuming she can't escape. It's a kind of non-intuitive concept, but something all Guild Wars players (which Jatt was) are intimately familiar with. I think he actually starts to bring it up before Froggen in the base and the respawned inhibitor cut him off.
Edit: Went to go check on that last bit and Jatt wasn't even casting this game. Joe Miller makes the comment and is not cut off, however.
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
Yeah, or even if he'd just cast cull the meek in that bush, all he had to do was press q and she was dead. I'm not sure what Wickd's thinking was there.
Super late here, but since no one else seems to have caught this, here it is.
I'm not going to debate the legitimacy of chasing Lulu v. killing the nexus, but given Wickd has already opted to chase and not try for the nexus, I think his play is correct. He doesn't actually gain anything by killing Lulu faster, but he delays her respawn by holding her there, presuming she can't escape. It's a kind of non-intuitive concept, but something all Guild Wars players (which Jatt was) are intimately familiar with. I think he actually starts to bring it up before Froggen in the base and the respawned inhibitor cut him off.
Edit: Went to go check on that last bit and Jatt wasn't even casting this game. Joe Miller makes the comment and is not cut off, however.
I agree. After the (arguably bad) decision of chasing was made, it was a good decision to let lulu live as long as possible while EGs team were respawning as it might have meant 5-10 or maybe even more time of 5v4 for EG if things had worked out so they could 5 man shove mid again. I was actually quite impressed by this thinking of Wickd in such a heated and chaotic game as this was.
On March 25 2013 03:02 Numy wrote: So if Wickd didn't chase Lulu for 5 minutes and just went straight with Froggen they would have won the game right there.
Yeah, or even if he'd just cast cull the meek in that bush, all he had to do was press q and she was dead. I'm not sure what Wickd's thinking was there.
Super late here, but since no one else seems to have caught this, here it is.
I'm not going to debate the legitimacy of chasing Lulu v. killing the nexus, but given Wickd has already opted to chase and not try for the nexus, I think his play is correct. He doesn't actually gain anything by killing Lulu faster, but he delays her respawn by holding her there, presuming she can't escape. It's a kind of non-intuitive concept, but something all Guild Wars players (which Jatt was) are intimately familiar with. I think he actually starts to bring it up before Froggen in the base and the respawned inhibitor cut him off.
Edit: Went to go check on that last bit and Jatt wasn't even casting this game. Joe Miller makes the comment and is not cut off, however.
I agree. After the (arguably bad) decision of chasing was made, it was a good decision to let lulu live as long as possible while EGs team were respawning as it might have meant 5-10 or maybe even more time of 5v4 for EG if things had worked out so they could 5 man shove mid again. I was actually quite impressed by this thinking of Wickd in such a heated and chaotic game as this was.
Oh, it was an inarguably bad decision. But the slowplay was pretty cool.
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