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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#1661
On November 04 2012 04:21 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:19 HazMat wrote:
Wait they're showing CLG.eu vs TSM? I mean I guess it makes sense since CLG.eu hasn't had a game streamed but they said they were going with Dig vs CLG. Wish there were 2 streams so I could choose q.q

I wish there was 2 streams so we wouldn't miss games. Also MLG just seems to have a TSM bias.


According to the schedule both LB Round 2 match ups should be on stream before the Winners Finals.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#1662
On November 04 2012 04:16 oogieogie wrote:
lol they think we want to watch people set up and not a full screen game? wtf..I can't even see the bottem player for the CS/items they have.

Get an HD pass and you'll be able to see everything. :D
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9227 Posts
November 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#1663
On November 04 2012 04:21 haroz wrote:
The overlay on screen for Curse vs CLG.na right now is wrong, its the other way around.

http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Fall/Championship/Picks_and_Bans/Loser's_Bracket

It's not a match from this event, it's from their online king of the hill.
Oproer
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands108 Posts
November 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#1664
I hope we are going to see some more underused champions this MLG, like Zilean in the previous game.
Mostly Harmless
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 03 2012 19:23 GMT
#1665
On November 04 2012 04:21 Dan HH wrote:
And to think that Najin Shield beat up both NJSW and AZB last week. Korea is pulling further and further ahead.

IG 2-0ed Shield in Starswar and WE 2-1ed IG in WESM, so obviously China > Korea!

It isn't as simple as who beat who.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11921 Posts
November 03 2012 19:24 GMT
#1666
What the fuck is this at the moment. Half screen game, sound totally broken, crowd louder then casters, casters randomly getting muted. Don't they have people whose job it is that this stuff works?
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9227 Posts
November 03 2012 19:24 GMT
#1667
On November 04 2012 04:22 Oproer wrote:
I hope we are going to see some more underused champions this MLG, like Zilean in the previous game.

M5 still uses Zilean a lot, iirc they pulled him out at Worlds too. I miss Malzahar from S1.
haroz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Australia707 Posts
November 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#1668
Scarra ‏@dscarra
I think we will be playing off stream against clg.NA.

:[ i wanna see this game too damnit
LOST MY PASSION
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#1669
On November 04 2012 04:24 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:22 Oproer wrote:
I hope we are going to see some more underused champions this MLG, like Zilean in the previous game.

M5 still uses Zilean a lot, iirc they pulled him out at Worlds too. I miss Malzahar from S1.


I don't think Malz is gonna see professional play until he gets a re-work or maybe in the situation where the enemy team has very little CC to interrupt his ult.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 03 2012 19:26 GMT
#1670
On November 04 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:11 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 socommaster123 wrote:
Why did TSM play a comp they are not used to. TSM shouldn't be playing comps that they cannot pull off, especially putting TOO on a jungle assassin, he is the best support jungler in the game he shouldn't be playing that type of jungler.

Lol, you are still delusional. Its not TSM play with a comp that they are not used to, They simply cant beat Koreans with no matter what comp they use. TSM is just miles behind Asian teams, thats it.
Pls, Oddone is good in NA only, hes no that good if you compare then to Asian teams junglers.

Oddone is actually probably the most outstanding member of TSM compared to his Asian counterparts. Give credit where credit is due.

Jungling is still a heavily experience and game sense-driven role. And Oddone's experience as a jungler is exceeded by very few active junglers.

I agree with your first point, but I dont see how Oddone can compare to their Asian counterparts. If you watch TSM scrims Oddone just do whatever Reginald tell him, pretty much wipe Reginald's ass. Just in that last game, see how Oddone babysit Reginald mid? It was very close the first time they kill Karthus, but the 2nd time was just horrible.

Terran
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 03 2012 19:26 GMT
#1671
On November 04 2012 04:25 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:24 Dan HH wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:22 Oproer wrote:
I hope we are going to see some more underused champions this MLG, like Zilean in the previous game.

M5 still uses Zilean a lot, iirc they pulled him out at Worlds too. I miss Malzahar from S1.


I don't think Malz is gonna see professional play until he gets a re-work or maybe in the situation where the enemy team has very little CC to interrupt his ult.


It's just that his range is pretty short and he is mostly single target IMO.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:27:34
November 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#1672
On November 04 2012 04:24 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:22 Oproer wrote:
I hope we are going to see some more underused champions this MLG, like Zilean in the previous game.

M5 still uses Zilean a lot, iirc they pulled him out at Worlds too. I miss Malzahar from S1.

Also at Tales of the Lane, where he was also used by some other team. Zilean is not underused anymore, just not overused like some other champs.
Off-season = best season
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9227 Posts
November 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#1673
On November 04 2012 04:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:21 Dan HH wrote:
And to think that Najin Shield beat up both NJSW and AZB last week. Korea is pulling further and further ahead.

IG 2-0ed Shield in Starswar and WE 2-1ed IG in WESM, so obviously China > Korea!

It isn't as simple as who beat who.

What? That was 2 months ago and I didn't imply that Shield is better, just that more and more Korean teams are reaching a certain level. Shield was disappointing in OGN Summer but they are back at the top.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#1674
On November 04 2012 04:26 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:11 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 socommaster123 wrote:
Why did TSM play a comp they are not used to. TSM shouldn't be playing comps that they cannot pull off, especially putting TOO on a jungle assassin, he is the best support jungler in the game he shouldn't be playing that type of jungler.

Lol, you are still delusional. Its not TSM play with a comp that they are not used to, They simply cant beat Koreans with no matter what comp they use. TSM is just miles behind Asian teams, thats it.
Pls, Oddone is good in NA only, hes no that good if you compare then to Asian teams junglers.

Oddone is actually probably the most outstanding member of TSM compared to his Asian counterparts. Give credit where credit is due.

Jungling is still a heavily experience and game sense-driven role. And Oddone's experience as a jungler is exceeded by very few active junglers.

I agree with your first point, but I dont see how Oddone can compare to their Asian counterparts. If you watch TSM scrims Oddone just do whatever Reginald tell him, pretty much wipe Reginald's ass. Just in that last game, see how Oddone babysit Reginald mid? It was very close the first time they kill Karthus, but the 2nd time was just horrible.


The babysitting mid was part of their strategy. We even heard about it in the sweet Turtle Beach sound session!
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#1675
aye, the sound failures bespeak of a low end organization; I expect more from a tournament; there's supposed to be someone monitoring these things live and trying to fix them if there's a problem.

as to the gameplay; i know these people are a LOT better than me; but I find it hard to look and see what exactly they're doing better, in terms of decisions and/or mechanics of their play.
It's hard to appreciate good play if you don't know what you're looking for; what am i supposed to look for?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#1676
On November 04 2012 04:21 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:19 Lysanias wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:17 overt wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:12 overt wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:10 Lysanias wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:03 Lysanias wrote:
TSM getting rolled. Never got why they are so hyped.

As bad as they are, they still beat all NA teams over and over and over again. NA scene is just too bad thats why TSM is so hyped.


Looking rather bleek for NA then, hell even EU, with CLG-EU rather inconsistant and nothing close coming near it on offline tournaments. Only M5 can seem to keep up with asia. (but it's kinda cheating calling them EU)


I think CLGeu can keep up with Asia. Citing this tournament as evidence that they can't seems silly considering they haven't been practicing and have a sub. They beat WE at finals and took a game off Frost. A lot better than the NA teams did. M5 had a nearly identical showing to CLGeu at worlds beating iG and taking one game off TPA.

He didn't say they were bad, but that they were inconsistent, which IS true.


He said that M5 was the only team that could keep up with the Asians. Which implies that CLGeu can't. Which seems silly considering CLGeu has more evidence to suggest that they can keep up with the Asians than M5 considering CLGeu's appearance at OGN.


Read up my reply ty, CLG EU at times can keep up with asia but they are inconsistant, take it any way you want. M5 on the other hand is not.


But when are they inconsistent? I don't consider a tournament showing where they have a sub as inconsistence.

I guess S2 qualifiers when they lost to SK? Maybe like eight months ago when they did badly at MLG? They're way more consistent than any other western team save M5.


Being more consistant then some other teams does not make you consistant in turn.
there finals in OGN were a disaster, they had a bad MLG run as you said, World champions quili were bad, and with a sub and no practice this MLG they also seem below level.

And in the end you are saying the same as i do as M5 being consistant.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 03 2012 19:28 GMT
#1677
On November 04 2012 04:26 Caphe wrote:
I agree with your first point, but I dont see how Oddone can compare to their Asian counterparts. If you watch TSM scrims Oddone just do whatever Reginald tell him, pretty much wipe Reginald's ass. Just in that last game, see how Oddone babysit Reginald mid? It was very close the first time they kill Karthus, but the 2nd time was just horrible.

I don't consider it a fault of TOO for listening to his captain.
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Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
November 03 2012 19:28 GMT
#1678
On November 04 2012 04:21 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:21 oogieogie wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:19 HazMat wrote:
Wait they're showing CLG.eu vs TSM? I mean I guess it makes sense since CLG.eu hasn't had a game streamed but they said they were going with Dig vs CLG. Wish there were 2 streams so I could choose q.q

I wish there was 2 streams so we wouldn't miss games. Also MLG just seems to have a TSM bias.

They have a bias toward pleasing viewers. TSM has a huge fanbase like it or not.


This, and also the fact that Dignitas most likely will roll CLG na over, whereas CLG.eu vs. TSM is a fan favourite match.
Flaf?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:29:32
November 03 2012 19:28 GMT
#1679
On November 04 2012 04:26 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:11 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 socommaster123 wrote:
Why did TSM play a comp they are not used to. TSM shouldn't be playing comps that they cannot pull off, especially putting TOO on a jungle assassin, he is the best support jungler in the game he shouldn't be playing that type of jungler.

Lol, you are still delusional. Its not TSM play with a comp that they are not used to, They simply cant beat Koreans with no matter what comp they use. TSM is just miles behind Asian teams, thats it.
Pls, Oddone is good in NA only, hes no that good if you compare then to Asian teams junglers.

Oddone is actually probably the most outstanding member of TSM compared to his Asian counterparts. Give credit where credit is due.

Jungling is still a heavily experience and game sense-driven role. And Oddone's experience as a jungler is exceeded by very few active junglers.

I agree with your first point, but I dont see how Oddone can compare to their Asian counterparts. If you watch TSM scrims Oddone just do whatever Reginald tell him, pretty much wipe Reginald's ass. Just in that last game, see how Oddone babysit Reginald mid? It was very close the first time they kill Karthus, but the 2nd time was just horrible.


He didn't baby sit mid,the point of rengar zilean is to kill mid over and over(they ganked karth 3 times btw and the 3rd time it went bad).........
The fact that reginald is a dumbass is a whole other issue.
Cackle™
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 03 2012 19:29 GMT
#1680
On November 04 2012 04:27 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:23 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:21 Dan HH wrote:
And to think that Najin Shield beat up both NJSW and AZB last week. Korea is pulling further and further ahead.

IG 2-0ed Shield in Starswar and WE 2-1ed IG in WESM, so obviously China > Korea!

It isn't as simple as who beat who.

What? That was 2 months ago and I didn't imply that Shield is better, just that more and more Korean teams are reaching a certain level. Shield was disappointing in OGN Summer but they are back at the top.

Closer to a month ago, given that Shield vs IG was played on the last day of Group A.
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