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oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 03 2012 19:16 GMT
#1641
lol they think we want to watch people set up and not a full screen game? wtf..I can't even see the bottem player for the CS/items they have.
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
November 03 2012 19:16 GMT
#1642
On November 04 2012 04:11 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:06 socommaster123 wrote:
Why did TSM play a comp they are not used to. TSM shouldn't be playing comps that they cannot pull off, especially putting TOO on a jungle assassin, he is the best support jungler in the game he shouldn't be playing that type of jungler.

Lol, you are still delusional. Its not TSM play with a comp that they are not used to, They simply cant beat Koreans with no matter what comp they use. TSM is just miles behind Asian teams, thats it.
Pls, Oddone is good in NA only, hes no that good if you compare then to Asian teams junglers.


...LOL I never said TSM is good you fool, and it is their team comp that lost them the game. They shouldn't be playing comps they cannot pull off. Their only hope is to use their generic team comps vs the asian teams and them trying to play zilean on regi was just them showing their foolishness.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 03 2012 19:16 GMT
#1643
On November 04 2012 04:12 Jamial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:11 De4ngus wrote:
so what if they were playing on laptops? na teams will continue to suck because streaming soloq is more profitable. laptops dont prevent 5v5 practice or force you to stream smite.


Ignore all other points, focus on the one that you can critisize. Makes so much sense. Please stop. They moved, had shitty internet, add to that the shitty laptops. Geez.

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-blade $2.5k, not shitty in my book.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22691 Posts
November 03 2012 19:17 GMT
#1644
The entire NA scene needs a full mentality rewrite to ever be able to compete with the rest of the world.
Wrong practice routines and lack of actual tactics in one of the most important phases of the game (picks) means they will only fall behind more and more.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2012 19:17 GMT
#1645
On November 04 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:12 overt wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:10 Lysanias wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:03 Lysanias wrote:
TSM getting rolled. Never got why they are so hyped.

As bad as they are, they still beat all NA teams over and over and over again. NA scene is just too bad thats why TSM is so hyped.


Looking rather bleek for NA then, hell even EU, with CLG-EU rather inconsistant and nothing close coming near it on offline tournaments. Only M5 can seem to keep up with asia. (but it's kinda cheating calling them EU)


I think CLGeu can keep up with Asia. Citing this tournament as evidence that they can't seems silly considering they haven't been practicing and have a sub. They beat WE at finals and took a game off Frost. A lot better than the NA teams did. M5 had a nearly identical showing to CLGeu at worlds beating iG and taking one game off TPA.

He didn't say they were bad, but that they were inconsistent, which IS true.


He said that M5 was the only team that could keep up with the Asians. Which implies that CLGeu can't. Which seems silly considering CLGeu has more evidence to suggest that they can keep up with the Asians than M5 considering CLGeu's appearance at OGN.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 03 2012 19:18 GMT
#1646
What the hell is this teamcomp by CLG I'm so confused.
Cackle™
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 03 2012 19:18 GMT
#1647
On November 04 2012 04:13 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:11 Jamial wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:10 Lysanias wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:03 Lysanias wrote:
TSM getting rolled. Never got why they are so hyped.

As bad as they are, they still beat all NA teams over and over and over again. NA scene is just too bad thats why TSM is so hyped.


Looking rather bleek for NA then, hell even EU, with CLG-EU rather inconsistant and nothing close coming near it on offline tournaments. Only M5 can seem to keep up with asia. (but it's kinda cheating calling them EU)


CLG-EU are inconsistant? In what way?


Barely making it to the World championships and i mean barely against teams they should have been way above.
And this MLG losing to Dignitas, and i know you will tell me they did not practice and all that, it still shows in the results.
Making it look inconsistant. At there best they can keep up with Asia but at there worst they lose to minor EU/NA teams.

They got upset by SK, but other than that they did fine at the EU qualifiers. I would bet money they would have put up stronger fight against M5 than SK did in the finals
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ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 03 2012 19:18 GMT
#1648
On November 04 2012 04:18 TheKefka wrote:
What the hell is this teamcomp by CLG I'm so confused.


This game is a prizefight.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 03 2012 19:18 GMT
#1649
On November 04 2012 04:16 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/12kkiw/dig_scarra_states_that_azubu_blaze_lustboy_is_the/

Korean lulus have been the most underrated thing ever about time they got some recognition.
Glorious SEA doto
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#1650
On November 04 2012 04:17 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:12 overt wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:10 Lysanias wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:03 Lysanias wrote:
TSM getting rolled. Never got why they are so hyped.

As bad as they are, they still beat all NA teams over and over and over again. NA scene is just too bad thats why TSM is so hyped.


Looking rather bleek for NA then, hell even EU, with CLG-EU rather inconsistant and nothing close coming near it on offline tournaments. Only M5 can seem to keep up with asia. (but it's kinda cheating calling them EU)


I think CLGeu can keep up with Asia. Citing this tournament as evidence that they can't seems silly considering they haven't been practicing and have a sub. They beat WE at finals and took a game off Frost. A lot better than the NA teams did. M5 had a nearly identical showing to CLGeu at worlds beating iG and taking one game off TPA.

He didn't say they were bad, but that they were inconsistent, which IS true.


He said that M5 was the only team that could keep up with the Asians. Which implies that CLGeu can't. Which seems silly considering CLGeu has more evidence to suggest that they can keep up with the Asians than M5 considering CLGeu's appearance at OGN.


Read up my reply ty, CLG EU at times can keep up with asia but they are inconsistant, take it any way you want. M5 on the other hand is not.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#1651
On November 04 2012 04:11 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:06 socommaster123 wrote:
Why did TSM play a comp they are not used to. TSM shouldn't be playing comps that they cannot pull off, especially putting TOO on a jungle assassin, he is the best support jungler in the game he shouldn't be playing that type of jungler.

Lol, you are still delusional. Its not TSM play with a comp that they are not used to, They simply cant beat Koreans with no matter what comp they use. TSM is just miles behind Asian teams, thats it.
Pls, Oddone is good in NA only, hes no that good if you compare then to Asian teams junglers.

Oddone is actually probably the most outstanding member of TSM compared to his Asian counterparts. Give credit where credit is due.

Jungling is still a heavily experience and game sense-driven role. And Oddone's experience as a jungler is exceeded by very few active junglers.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#1652
Wait they're showing CLG.eu vs TSM? I mean I guess it makes sense since CLG.eu hasn't had a game streamed but they said they were going with Dig vs CLG. Wish there were 2 streams so I could choose q.q
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#1653
Also, why is CLG playing on a wild mix of other peoples accounts?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#1654
On November 04 2012 04:18 ProV1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:18 TheKefka wrote:
What the hell is this teamcomp by CLG I'm so confused.


This game is a prizefight.

ah,lol.I was like what am I watching right now...
Cackle™
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 03 2012 19:20 GMT
#1655
finally Tsm vs Clg.eu rematch ever since mlg anaheim right? I remember that epic kogmaw froggen quadrakill

also first time seeing jree play
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#1656
On November 04 2012 04:19 HazMat wrote:
Wait they're showing CLG.eu vs TSM? I mean I guess it makes sense since CLG.eu hasn't had a game streamed but they said they were going with Dig vs CLG. Wish there were 2 streams so I could choose q.q

I wish there was 2 streams so we wouldn't miss games. Also MLG just seems to have a TSM bias.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#1657
On November 04 2012 04:19 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:17 overt wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:12 overt wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:10 Lysanias wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:06 Caphe wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:03 Lysanias wrote:
TSM getting rolled. Never got why they are so hyped.

As bad as they are, they still beat all NA teams over and over and over again. NA scene is just too bad thats why TSM is so hyped.


Looking rather bleek for NA then, hell even EU, with CLG-EU rather inconsistant and nothing close coming near it on offline tournaments. Only M5 can seem to keep up with asia. (but it's kinda cheating calling them EU)


I think CLGeu can keep up with Asia. Citing this tournament as evidence that they can't seems silly considering they haven't been practicing and have a sub. They beat WE at finals and took a game off Frost. A lot better than the NA teams did. M5 had a nearly identical showing to CLGeu at worlds beating iG and taking one game off TPA.

He didn't say they were bad, but that they were inconsistent, which IS true.


He said that M5 was the only team that could keep up with the Asians. Which implies that CLGeu can't. Which seems silly considering CLGeu has more evidence to suggest that they can keep up with the Asians than M5 considering CLGeu's appearance at OGN.


Read up my reply ty, CLG EU at times can keep up with asia but they are inconsistant, take it any way you want. M5 on the other hand is not.


But when are they inconsistent? I don't consider a tournament showing where they have a sub as inconsistence.

I guess S2 qualifiers when they lost to SK? Maybe like eight months ago when they did badly at MLG? They're way more consistent than any other western team save M5.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#1658
On November 04 2012 04:21 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:19 HazMat wrote:
Wait they're showing CLG.eu vs TSM? I mean I guess it makes sense since CLG.eu hasn't had a game streamed but they said they were going with Dig vs CLG. Wish there were 2 streams so I could choose q.q

I wish there was 2 streams so we wouldn't miss games. Also MLG just seems to have a TSM bias.

They have a bias toward pleasing viewers. TSM has a huge fanbase like it or not.
haroz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Australia707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:22:45
November 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#1659
nvm
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9255 Posts
November 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#1660
And to think that Najin Shield beat up both NJSW and AZB last week. Korea is pulling further and further ahead.
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