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On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do".
How do you cancel Shen ult? I haven't played Shen in a long time but Leaguepedia says you can't.
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On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do".
He did enough not to throw. is probably the best way to put it. But, sometimes that's just enough. You can't seriously expect hotshot to play on the same caliber as Froggen and Wick'd, do you?
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On November 04 2012 10:04 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:00 AsnSensation wrote:On November 04 2012 09:58 iCanada wrote:
Lol Hotshot chase sona for like 10 minutes. the fun thing is that jree was really unfortunate by throwing his E powercord on hotshot he triggered the 35(?) percent warden's mail slow 20%. Real RNG. Even lower than Phage lol
sure it wasnt randuins active slow? was on cd recently used when sona got slowed.
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On November 04 2012 10:08 Chexx wrote:
I just woke up. There is still one game right?
Aye man, last game of the night, clg v clg, n.a. up 1-0
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I don't think it was a terrible team build, but untested and probably not practiced.
Taking two top-tier ADs denies doublelift them, probably the scariest player on CLG.NA. They didn't take advantage of this and shut down doubelift though. CLG.NA can't/won't play aggressive to punish the double ad comp, and double AD has the obvious advantages in late game. They lost some really stupid team fights, 4v4 getting caught in both malphite/orianna ult. Snoopeh was a non-factor all game and Yorick/wickd I guess was for the ult but really didn't do much.
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On November 04 2012 10:10 Mios wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:04 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On November 04 2012 10:00 AsnSensation wrote:On November 04 2012 09:58 iCanada wrote:
Lol Hotshot chase sona for like 10 minutes. the fun thing is that jree was really unfortunate by throwing his E powercord on hotshot he triggered the 35(?) percent warden's mail slow 20%. Real RNG. Even lower than Phage lol sure it wasnt randuins active slow? was on cd recently used when sona got slowed.
Randiun's active has a very obvious graphic. It wasn't.
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for some ungodly reason clg.na always does well against clg.eu.
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On November 04 2012 10:10 StUfF wrote:
I don't think it was a terrible team build, but untested and probably not practiced.
Taking two top-tier ADs denies doublelift them, probably the scariest player on CLG.NA. They didn't take advantage of this and shut down doubelift though. CLG.NA can't/won't play aggressive to punish the double ad comp, and double AD has the obvious advantages in late game. They lost some really stupid team fights, 4v4 getting caught in both malphite/orianna ult. Snoopeh was a non-factor all game and Yorick/wickd I guess was for the ult but really didn't do much.
It's not uncommon. Curse did the exact same thing, except nyjacky was on trist, and completely stomped with this strat before. The problem is you can't afford to do such a strat on such a strong initiate team, unless you trust your AD Carries to have the mechanics of doublelift.
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On November 04 2012 10:11 Sermokala wrote:
for some ungodly reason clg.na always does well against clg.eu.
Because they're like Clg.eu except better. QFT by doublelift.
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On November 04 2012 10:12 petered wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:04 Navi wrote:
EU's double AD team was set to fight that game, that was yellow + froggen's mistake for grouping at that baron fight too close to each other. also, snoopeh's ult was still on CD at that point, so they needed to spread even more badly (as there was no chance that snoopeh could hold double away from damaging the rest of his team even if malph did manage to ult one of the ADs)
interesting teamcomps and fight from both CLGs, i believe CLG NA still has the most potential amongst the NA teams at this event to become the best in the future / the best NA team amongst the "developed" NA teams. What makes you say that? Not disagreeing necessarily, just curious as to why.
CLG has the best individual talent on a team, ergo higher potential ceiling. Each player has at one time or another been considered "best in that position", so they all have the potential to be that good. On top of that, they're also willing to try new shit. They're like dig with innovation, but better individual potential.
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On November 04 2012 10:04 Navi wrote:
EU's double AD team was set to fight that game, that was yellow + froggen's mistake for grouping at that baron fight too close to each other. also, snoopeh's ult was still on CD at that point, so they needed to spread even more badly (as there was no chance that snoopeh could hold double away from damaging the rest of his team even if malph did manage to ult one of the ADs)
interesting teamcomps and fight from both CLGs, i believe CLG NA still has the most potential amongst the NA teams at this event to become the best in the future / the best NA team amongst the "developed" NA teams.
What makes you say that? Not disagreeing necessarily, just curious as to why.
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On November 04 2012 10:10 Mios wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:04 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On November 04 2012 10:00 AsnSensation wrote:On November 04 2012 09:58 iCanada wrote:
Lol Hotshot chase sona for like 10 minutes. the fun thing is that jree was really unfortunate by throwing his E powercord on hotshot he triggered the 35(?) percent warden's mail slow 20%. Real RNG. Even lower than Phage lol sure it wasnt randuins active slow? was on cd recently used when sona got slowed.
the slow after he threw his powercord was 100% the passiv, the 2nd slow after hotshot chased jree for 10minutes was indeed the active
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On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do".
What he needed to do in teamfights.
Even though Froggen had way more farm, damage and better itemization, Hotshot managed to stall his pushes pretty consistently. He fucked up once or twice, which is why I say his play was far from perfect, but towards the end of the game Hotshot caught up pretty well and was definitely making more of an impact in team fights than Froggen. If making one mistake that proves inconsequential to the result of the game is enough to qualify you as a terrible player in your eyes, then your bar is higher than most.
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The time they need to make a game and launch it... unreal.
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On November 04 2012 10:09 QuakerOats wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do". How do you cancel Shen ult? I haven't played Shen in a long time but Leaguepedia says you can't.
thats stupid. you can cancel shens ult on the shen side of things with any hard form of cc. (darius hook stun movement stuff like that is hard cc)
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Deman left his brother's company, RiotDeman is all but confirmed.
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malphite ulti worlds hardest skillshot to land
-Chauster.
lol, at least chauster can laugh about his skills.
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On November 04 2012 10:14 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:09 QuakerOats wrote:On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do". How do you cancel Shen ult? I haven't played Shen in a long time but Leaguepedia says you can't. thats stupid. you can cancel shens ult on the shen side of things with any hard form of cc. (darius hook stun movement stuff like that is hard cc)
The question is that people are saying that Hotshot canceled the shen ult in the middle of a fight, and quaker is disputing whether it's possible that the player who is playing shen can cancel
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On November 04 2012 10:14 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:09 QuakerOats wrote:On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do". How do you cancel Shen ult? I haven't played Shen in a long time but Leaguepedia says you can't. thats stupid. you can cancel shens ult on the shen side of things with any hard form of cc. (darius hook stun movement stuff like that is hard cc)
The point was that nobody was there to interrupt him, his whole team was at Baron against CLG.NA. He canceled it himself, and had to walk there, which allowed CLG.EU to disengage after Chau/Jiji's combo engage.
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On November 04 2012 10:16 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:14 Sermokala wrote:On November 04 2012 10:09 QuakerOats wrote:On November 04 2012 10:07 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 10:06 G0dly wrote:
Hotshot's play was far from perfect. He certainly made some mistakes. But I wouldn't characterize his play as "terrible". He stayed even on farm against Wickd and later on Froggen, and did what he needed to do in teamfights. I wouldn't call getting forced off lane every time Froggen appears, solo dying to Froggen without using his summoners, or canceling his port into a critical fight "what he needed to do". How do you cancel Shen ult? I haven't played Shen in a long time but Leaguepedia says you can't. thats stupid. you can cancel shens ult on the shen side of things with any hard form of cc. (darius hook stun movement stuff like that is hard cc) The point was that nobody was there to interrupt him, his whole team was at Baron against CLG.NA. He canceled it himself, and had to walk there, which allowed CLG.EU to disengage after Chau/Jiji's combo engage.
Yeah I'm wondering how you cancel Shen's ult manually; Leaguepedia says it's not possible which is why I was confused.
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On November 04 2012 10:05 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:03 SoulSever wrote:
Froggen knows Pete is weak link so decides to ad himself. Pretty weaksauce if you ask me This post probably takes the cake when it comes to stupidity so far.
For one, yellowpete is by far the weak link in the team. He just can't keep up mechanically with other top quality ad's. Say what you will about wicked's small champ pool, at least he can play them really really well. Secondly, froggen is selfish without a doubt and let his ego get the better of him (getting caught out after trying to out split-push shen when he should know his team can't deal 4v5. just because you can 1v1 hsgg's shen doesn't mean you should). Thirdly, your post is stupid, at least give me a reason you think my post doesn't have any merit.
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