• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:34
CEST 03:34
KST 10:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Behind the scenes footage of ASL21 Group E A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM [ASL21] Ro24 Group F 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7543 users

[MLG] Spring Championship 2012 - Page 152

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 150 151 152 153 154 163 Next
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 11 2012 04:12 GMT
#3021
On June 11 2012 13:10 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:08 daSilvaz wrote:
Doublelift is so much better than chaox, like its not even close

Yea its really hard to ace a team with vayne when the other team has no oracles.
TSM just gave that game away,that jax teleport and dive was full derp mode engaged.

So funny to read what fanbois write...news at 7, every game TSM loses is a throw
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
June 11 2012 04:13 GMT
#3022
GO CLG!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
June 11 2012 04:13 GMT
#3023
On June 11 2012 13:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


My main problem with Vayne is that she is not viable unless played impeccably, but if you play other AD carries impeccably you probably carry just as hard.


But Vayne can carry harder than any other ad carry...
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
June 11 2012 04:13 GMT
#3024
On June 11 2012 13:12 overt wrote:
Should be noted that Caitlyn and Vayne are Double's best AD carries. People who are really good with one champion don't give a fuck about fotm or how 'viable' that champ is.

I'll love DL forever if he plays Cait in the final match to shutdown Chaox Graves.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
June 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#3025
Dat music so fitting with the look on Dryus' face and the way he played.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#3026
On June 11 2012 13:13 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


My main problem with Vayne is that she is not viable unless played impeccably, but if you play other AD carries impeccably you probably carry just as hard.


But Vayne can carry harder than any other ad carry...

Different AD Carries offer different things depending what you want. Vayne offers the ability to shred tanks no matter what. That's super scary for a team like CLG, who are essentially creating compositions around Liftlift.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 04:15:15
June 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#3027
On June 11 2012 13:13 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


My main problem with Vayne is that she is not viable unless played impeccably, but if you play other AD carries impeccably you probably carry just as hard.


But Vayne can carry harder than any other ad carry...


I think that's really debatable though. Trist, Kog, and Ashe are all arguably just as good as Vayne come late game.

DPSing down single targets isn't all there is to being a late game monster imo.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
June 11 2012 04:15 GMT
#3028
On June 11 2012 13:13 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


My main problem with Vayne is that she is not viable unless played impeccably, but if you play other AD carries impeccably you probably carry just as hard.


But Vayne can carry harder than any other ad carry...


If played perfectly and doesn't lose in lane. Other AD carries don't need that requirement is what people are trying to get at.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
June 11 2012 04:15 GMT
#3029
On June 11 2012 13:11 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


Only DL good enough to still play her in competitive play. That or no other players have the balls.


Doesn't Orb Nientensoh play a good Vayne? Think he played Vayne at least once this tourney.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 11 2012 04:15 GMT
#3030
On June 11 2012 13:13 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:12 overt wrote:
Should be noted that Caitlyn and Vayne are Double's best AD carries. People who are really good with one champion don't give a fuck about fotm or how 'viable' that champ is.

I'll love DL forever if he plays Cait in the final match to shutdown Chaox Graves.

Inc CLG poke comp with xHazzard Nidalee, Jiji AP Koggles, DLift Cait, Chauster Sona/Sorara, HSGG Trundle
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
ZeroVirus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States68 Posts
June 11 2012 04:15 GMT
#3031
I had a bad feeling when TSM started that Baron, and was not surprised when it ended as badly as it did. Dyrus teleporting in was the icing on the derp-cake, but I think the whole plan wasn't very solid. :-/
Fear not your most outspoken enemy, but your most quiet supporter.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 11 2012 04:16 GMT
#3032
Come on TSM win this please!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 11 2012 04:16 GMT
#3033
On June 11 2012 13:13 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


My main problem with Vayne is that she is not viable unless played impeccably, but if you play other AD carries impeccably you probably carry just as hard.


But Vayne can carry harder than any other ad carry...

eh i really don't think so. kog/trist all have scarier lategames simply because of their ridiculous ranges. Vayne is great because she shreds tanks harder than anyone.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 11 2012 04:16 GMT
#3034
On June 11 2012 13:15 Apex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:11 overt wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


Only DL good enough to still play her in competitive play. That or no other players have the balls.


Doesn't Orb Nientensoh play a good Vayne? Think he played Vayne at least once this tourney.

If he did play it, I didn't see it so can't comment. Hard to compete with DLift's signature champion though. Would be interested to see his Vayne then.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 11 2012 04:17 GMT
#3035
Vayne's best-case scenario is super strong: imagine if she lands all her stuns and true damage. I think that champions fitting into niche team comps and tactics is a good thing as the champion roster approaches 100--it's the only way to keep everyone in the same role fresh.
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
June 11 2012 04:17 GMT
#3036
And I'd say Twitch in lane is even more position dependant than Vayne, but I'm also still crazy about the rat.

And now I feel bad. When I was defending HSGG's jungling in the past thread, I was saying he would probably hurt their tournament performance, but he had an impact. Apparently... he's just not that bad at jungle, and even defending him I was selling him short.

Though it could be a fluke performance I guess, still, I like being right sometimes. Even if somewhat only.
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
June 11 2012 04:17 GMT
#3037
this is clg's 13th game in a row holy fuck...
jaedong the man with the huge dong
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 04:19:55
June 11 2012 04:17 GMT
#3038
On June 11 2012 13:12 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:10 TheKefka wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:08 daSilvaz wrote:
Doublelift is so much better than chaox, like its not even close

Yea its really hard to ace a team with vayne when the other team has no oracles.
TSM just gave that game away,that jax teleport and dive was full derp mode engaged.

So funny to read what fanbois write...news at 7, every game TSM loses is a throw

So TSM up with like 7k gold or something like that.Jax teleports in,solo dives 3 people,gets murdered,graves runes in solo after jax gets killed,gets murdered by vayne and feeds her a spree,2 other people get killed running away,CLG gets baron and gets a free maokai with it.Yea,not a throw at all,what the hell am I thinking.
Cackle™
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
June 11 2012 04:18 GMT
#3039
On June 11 2012 13:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
Didn't somebody in this same thread say that Vayne was not as viable as before ?

Mad lulz. Vayne is 300% viable in team play !


My main problem with Vayne is that she is not viable unless played impeccably, but if you play other AD carries impeccably you probably carry just as hard.

Vayne is going to outscale nearly every other AD regardless of how good you are with them.
Of course she does have a bad earlygame, but if she didn't she would just be overpowered.

MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 11 2012 04:19 GMT
#3040
My audio suddenly died and I can't hear anything now, wtf?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Prev 1 150 151 152 153 154 163 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
00:30
FSL s10 retrospective
Liquipedia
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #18
CranKy Ducklings104
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft326
ViBE206
Vindicta 41
CosmosSc2 30
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5840
Artosis 632
Shuttle 265
NaDa 18
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
canceldota197
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear3
Counter-Strike
C9.Mang0301
Other Games
summit1g11144
tarik_tv4658
shahzam333
JimRising 271
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1181
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 70
• RyuSc2 43
• davetesta19
• EnkiAlexander 11
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt236
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 26m
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Big Brain Bouts
14h 26m
Replay Cast
22h 26m
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
1d 17h
RSL Revival
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.