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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament. Thanks. Neo, 06.03.2012 |
On March 08 2012 18:20 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote: Sneaky baron impossible if teams would still run cv, esp in teamgames. they could have put a ward down easily. they just didn't expect it.
They did have a ward down, SV killed it, then they went back to it not that much later(shyv even came by to place a new ward and got chased away by Udyr). At that point they probably realized it was being done, but 3 were bottom because CLG had pushed to t2 tower and Crs blue was up.
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On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote: CLG looking really dominant.
I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev..
Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill. But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox.
Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee
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i think as of recently oddone is getting too caught up in listening to what his team wants over what is objectively the correct decision to make
that wouldn't be bad if what his team wanted was the correct decision but im sure regi pesters him for ganks while wanting to take his own lane farm as much as possible instead of shuffling some farm off to oddone to hold lane while he goes to gank himself
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i still think they should get someone with a better game sense to commentate... all these guys are saying is whats happening on the screen "they take blue" "hes getting ganked" "he got away" etc... not too informative at all
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On March 08 2012 18:20 Slusher wrote:as pointed out the early SV oracle had as much to do with that baron as anything else. in any other game clearing baron wards that early would have been a tell, but since he had oracles forever it looked like nothing weird was happening. Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote: Sneaky baron impossible if teams would still run cv, esp in teamgames. what there would have triggered cv on baron? If they clear a ward with 2 and dont show up anywhere it's not hard to cv baron. Shyv even came a bit later and ran into the 2 of them, why would they stick around for that long after clearing the ward.
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Why are they on facebook?? Lets get to game 2! gogogo
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Phreak so much fail, Cait had vampiric sceptre for longest time. She had plenty of sustain most of hte lane.
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On March 08 2012 18:22 daemir wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:21 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:19 fishinguy wrote:On March 08 2012 18:17 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:16 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:15 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:13 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:11 JBright wrote:Poll: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1Yes (14) 50% No (14) 50% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1 (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Try to recommend games that are good, not games where your favorite team stomps implying 2man baron sneak at that early timing, along with really solid execution from CLG wasn't impressive to watch Impressive that they didn't have it warded or covered I guess, I found that match very boring, one of the worst games yet. Doublelift tried his best to make it interesting but yawn Implying that the 10min oracle on SV had nothing to do with that map control. What? All I'm implying is that the game was very boring Most LoL games should be very boring by that logic, because couple of early kills or early dragon scales really hard in most of the games and end up being 20 mins of stomp. tbh I'm suprised clg gave up 2 dragons, but I think the splitpushing done by CLG countered the money gotten by dragon. CLG.na doesn't value early dragons, they rather take top turret.
This is signature CLG. They have never valued Dragon for 8+ patches now.
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TSM biggest problem is that by the time all the 'Bro' and 'Yoyo' are filtered out of the speech, the moment has gone...
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and now a dramatic zoom in on ELEMENTZ as he BROWSES FACEBOOK
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On March 08 2012 18:24 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:22 daemir wrote:On March 08 2012 18:21 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:19 fishinguy wrote:On March 08 2012 18:17 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:16 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:15 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:13 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:11 JBright wrote:Poll: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1Yes (14) 50% No (14) 50% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1 (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Try to recommend games that are good, not games where your favorite team stomps implying 2man baron sneak at that early timing, along with really solid execution from CLG wasn't impressive to watch Impressive that they didn't have it warded or covered I guess, I found that match very boring, one of the worst games yet. Doublelift tried his best to make it interesting but yawn Implying that the 10min oracle on SV had nothing to do with that map control. What? All I'm implying is that the game was very boring Most LoL games should be very boring by that logic, because couple of early kills or early dragon scales really hard in most of the games and end up being 20 mins of stomp. tbh I'm suprised clg gave up 2 dragons, but I think the splitpushing done by CLG countered the money gotten by dragon. CLG.na doesn't value early dragons, they rather take top turret. This is signature CLG. They have never valued Dragon for 8+ patches now. Yeah. I think they're on to something. I think if you can split push all 3 lanes during dragon, that they can easily make up the gold lost.
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On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote: CLG looking really dominant.
I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev.. Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill. But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox. Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee
Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push.
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On March 08 2012 18:25 aers wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote: CLG looking really dominant.
I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev.. Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill. But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox. Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push.
If Shen is available game 2 I'll be shocked
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On March 08 2012 18:25 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:24 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 08 2012 18:22 daemir wrote:On March 08 2012 18:21 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:19 fishinguy wrote:On March 08 2012 18:17 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:16 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:15 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2012 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2012 18:13 Shikyo wrote: [quote] Try to recommend games that are good, not games where your favorite team stomps implying 2man baron sneak at that early timing, along with really solid execution from CLG wasn't impressive to watch Impressive that they didn't have it warded or covered I guess, I found that match very boring, one of the worst games yet. Doublelift tried his best to make it interesting but yawn Implying that the 10min oracle on SV had nothing to do with that map control. What? All I'm implying is that the game was very boring Most LoL games should be very boring by that logic, because couple of early kills or early dragon scales really hard in most of the games and end up being 20 mins of stomp. tbh I'm suprised clg gave up 2 dragons, but I think the splitpushing done by CLG countered the money gotten by dragon. CLG.na doesn't value early dragons, they rather take top turret. This is signature CLG. They have never valued Dragon for 8+ patches now. Yeah. I think they're on to something. I think if you can split push all 3 lanes during dragon, that they can easily make up the gold lost.
I'd favor getting early dragon with 4 and keeping top lane. Depends on comps tho and top lane summoners/globals.
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On March 08 2012 18:25 aers wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote: CLG looking really dominant.
I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev.. Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill. But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox. Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push. IS SUCH A THING POSSIBLE? huehuehuehue.
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Yeah. I think they're on to something. I think if you can split push all 3 lanes during dragon, that they can easily make up the gold lost. Pushing mid/bottom is way too risky when they are doing dragon even if you have wards.
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On March 08 2012 18:22 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:20 Woony wrote:On March 08 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote: Sneaky baron impossible if teams would still run cv, esp in teamgames. they could have put a ward down easily. they just didn't expect it. They did have a ward down, SV killed it, then they went back to it not that much later(shyv even came by to place a new ward and got chased away by Udyr). At that point they probably realized it was being done, but 3 were bottom because CLG had pushed to t2 tower and Crs blue was up.
The 1 ward wasn't in place to see baron, Shyv just assumed Udyr was roaming river clearing wards. It was a 2man baron, all others we're on the map, they didn't need a 5man grp to contest a 2man baron. Irelia, Shyv and Morg were less than 5sec away from Baron and could've at least threatened them away 2v3 easy. They just didn't expect it and had no clue.
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On March 08 2012 18:26 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 18:25 aers wrote:On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote: CLG looking really dominant.
I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev.. Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill. But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox. Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push. IS SUCH A THING POSSIBLE? huehuehuehue.
I've never seen a successful 1 3 1 push in competitive LoL yet. 3 is too weak vs 4-5. Would need ridiculous "globals" like TF and Shen.
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idra was commentating on sc2 ro16 just now, it was miles away from what phreak/rivington can say about the game (on LoL side ofcourse)...
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Shen ban > incoming Mundo
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