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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 08 2012 09:22 GMT
#3181
On March 08 2012 18:20 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote:
Sneaky baron impossible if teams would still run cv, esp in teamgames.


they could have put a ward down easily. they just didn't expect it.


They did have a ward down, SV killed it, then they went back to it not that much later(shyv even came by to place a new ward and got chased away by Udyr). At that point they probably realized it was being done, but 3 were bottom because CLG had pushed to t2 tower and Crs blue was up.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 08 2012 09:22 GMT
#3182
On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote:
CLG looking really dominant.

I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev..


Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill.
But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox.

Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 08 2012 09:22 GMT
#3183
i think as of recently oddone is getting too caught up in listening to what his team wants over what is objectively the correct decision to make

that wouldn't be bad if what his team wanted was the correct decision but im sure regi pesters him for ganks while wanting to take his own lane farm as much as possible instead of shuffling some farm off to oddone to hold lane while he goes to gank himself
Hey! Listen!
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
March 08 2012 09:22 GMT
#3184
i still think they should get someone with a better game sense to commentate... all these guys are saying is whats happening on the screen "they take blue" "hes getting ganked" "he got away" etc... not too informative at all
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 08 2012 09:23 GMT
#3185
On March 08 2012 18:20 Slusher wrote:
as pointed out the early SV oracle had as much to do with that baron as anything else. in any other game clearing baron wards that early would have been a tell, but since he had oracles forever it looked like nothing weird was happening.


Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote:
Sneaky baron impossible if teams would still run cv, esp in teamgames.


what there would have triggered cv on baron?

If they clear a ward with 2 and dont show up anywhere it's not hard to cv baron. Shyv even came a bit later and ran into the 2 of them, why would they stick around for that long after clearing the ward.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
March 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#3186
Why are they on facebook?? Lets get to game 2! gogogo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#3187
Phreak so much fail, Cait had vampiric sceptre for longest time. She had plenty of sustain most of hte lane.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#3188
On March 08 2012 18:22 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:19 fishinguy wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:17 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:15 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:11 JBright wrote:
Poll: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1

Yes (14)
 
50%

No (14)
 
50%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Try to recommend games that are good, not games where your favorite team stomps

implying 2man baron sneak at that early timing, along with really solid execution from CLG wasn't impressive to watch

Impressive that they didn't have it warded or covered I guess, I found that match very boring, one of the worst games yet. Doublelift tried his best to make it interesting but yawn

Implying that the 10min oracle on SV had nothing to do with that map control.

What? All I'm implying is that the game was very boring


Most LoL games should be very boring by that logic, because couple of early kills or early dragon scales really hard in most of the games and end up being 20 mins of stomp.

tbh I'm suprised clg gave up 2 dragons, but I think the splitpushing done by CLG countered the money gotten by dragon.


CLG.na doesn't value early dragons, they rather take top turret.


This is signature CLG. They have never valued Dragon for 8+ patches now.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#3189
TSM biggest problem is that by the time all the 'Bro' and 'Yoyo' are filtered out of the speech, the moment has gone...
KCCO!
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 09:24:37
March 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#3190
and now a dramatic zoom in on ELEMENTZ as he BROWSES FACEBOOK

OOOOOOOOOO
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2012 09:25 GMT
#3191
On March 08 2012 18:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:22 daemir wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:19 fishinguy wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:17 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:15 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:11 JBright wrote:
Poll: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1

Yes (14)
 
50%

No (14)
 
50%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend CLG vs. Curse Game 1

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Try to recommend games that are good, not games where your favorite team stomps

implying 2man baron sneak at that early timing, along with really solid execution from CLG wasn't impressive to watch

Impressive that they didn't have it warded or covered I guess, I found that match very boring, one of the worst games yet. Doublelift tried his best to make it interesting but yawn

Implying that the 10min oracle on SV had nothing to do with that map control.

What? All I'm implying is that the game was very boring


Most LoL games should be very boring by that logic, because couple of early kills or early dragon scales really hard in most of the games and end up being 20 mins of stomp.

tbh I'm suprised clg gave up 2 dragons, but I think the splitpushing done by CLG countered the money gotten by dragon.


CLG.na doesn't value early dragons, they rather take top turret.


This is signature CLG. They have never valued Dragon for 8+ patches now.

Yeah. I think they're on to something. I think if you can split push all 3 lanes during dragon, that they can easily make up the gold lost.
liftlift > tsm
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
March 08 2012 09:25 GMT
#3192
On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote:
CLG looking really dominant.

I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev..


Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill.
But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox.

Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee


Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 08 2012 09:26 GMT
#3193
On March 08 2012 18:25 aers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote:
CLG looking really dominant.

I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev..


Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill.
But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox.

Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee


Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push.


If Shen is available game 2 I'll be shocked
Carrilord has arrived.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 08 2012 09:26 GMT
#3194
On March 08 2012 18:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:22 daemir wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:19 fishinguy wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:17 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:15 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:13 Shikyo wrote:
[quote]
Try to recommend games that are good, not games where your favorite team stomps

implying 2man baron sneak at that early timing, along with really solid execution from CLG wasn't impressive to watch

Impressive that they didn't have it warded or covered I guess, I found that match very boring, one of the worst games yet. Doublelift tried his best to make it interesting but yawn

Implying that the 10min oracle on SV had nothing to do with that map control.

What? All I'm implying is that the game was very boring


Most LoL games should be very boring by that logic, because couple of early kills or early dragon scales really hard in most of the games and end up being 20 mins of stomp.

tbh I'm suprised clg gave up 2 dragons, but I think the splitpushing done by CLG countered the money gotten by dragon.


CLG.na doesn't value early dragons, they rather take top turret.


This is signature CLG. They have never valued Dragon for 8+ patches now.

Yeah. I think they're on to something. I think if you can split push all 3 lanes during dragon, that they can easily make up the gold lost.


I'd favor getting early dragon with 4 and keeping top lane. Depends on comps tho and top lane summoners/globals.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2012 09:26 GMT
#3195
On March 08 2012 18:25 aers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote:
CLG looking really dominant.

I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev..


Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill.
But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox.

Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee


Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push.

IS SUCH A THING POSSIBLE? huehuehuehue.
liftlift > tsm
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
March 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#3196
Yeah. I think they're on to something. I think if you can split push all 3 lanes during dragon, that they can easily make up the gold lost.

Pushing mid/bottom is way too risky when they are doing dragon even if you have wards.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
March 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#3197
On March 08 2012 18:22 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:20 Woony wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote:
Sneaky baron impossible if teams would still run cv, esp in teamgames.


they could have put a ward down easily. they just didn't expect it.


They did have a ward down, SV killed it, then they went back to it not that much later(shyv even came by to place a new ward and got chased away by Udyr). At that point they probably realized it was being done, but 3 were bottom because CLG had pushed to t2 tower and Crs blue was up.


The 1 ward wasn't in place to see baron, Shyv just assumed Udyr was roaming river clearing wards. It was a 2man baron, all others we're on the map, they didn't need a 5man grp to contest a 2man baron. Irelia, Shyv and Morg were less than 5sec away from Baron and could've at least threatened them away 2v3 easy. They just didn't expect it and had no clue.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#3198
On March 08 2012 18:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 18:25 aers wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:18 aers wrote:
CLG looking really dominant.

I almost feel like teams not banning Shen vs CLG's playstyle is like no one banning Shyv against M5 at Kiev..


Yes and no. HSGG solo pushes like no other LoL player, so Shen fits his bill.
But Shen isn't essential to CLG's line up. At least not to the degree Shy/Lee Sin fits Diamondprox.

Give HS Udyr, Nid, Cho, he's going to do the same. I don't think we've seen Diamond outside of Shy/Lee


Yeah but even if HS plays one of his other champs, Saint will pick up Shen and they'll double split push.

IS SUCH A THING POSSIBLE? huehuehuehue.


I've never seen a successful 1 3 1 push in competitive LoL yet. 3 is too weak vs 4-5. Would need ridiculous "globals" like TF and Shen.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
March 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#3199
idra was commentating on sc2 ro16 just now, it was miles away from what phreak/rivington can say about the game (on LoL side ofcourse)...
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 08 2012 09:28 GMT
#3200
Shen ban > incoming Mundo
Carrilord has arrived.
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