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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 02:22 GMT
#81
A bunch of small skirmishes break out after a gank top with TF ulting to counter initiate (although accomplishing nothing). CLG dives him and picks off TF followed by Janna who ults to save Kassadin's blue buff. Ryze got caught at some point walking through the jungle to help in the fights.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 02:24:30
January 13 2012 02:22 GMT
#82
Odd comments about Kennen's first item "not being that much AP... hope to see something like a deathcap next" when almost everyone builds WotA first on him.

Not complaining too hard, it's just best not to sound like you're criticizing a player when your game knowledge isn't absolutely solid yet.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
January 13 2012 02:23 GMT
#83
You don't gift Ryze two kills at level 8'ish and expect to win whatever comes out of that. Game pretty much over now.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 02:24 GMT
#84
TF and Graves get caught at mid river right before dragon spawns. Kassadin barely escapes yet again with minimal health and CLG will pick up this dragon uncontested.

CLG now up about 5k gold.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 02:26:30
January 13 2012 02:24 GMT
#85
Goose losing all the small skirmishes - 3-1 top, then 2-0 mid/river after a gank on Sona turns sour.

Glass cannon Lee top can't survive an incredibly tanky Gangplank diving him with Sona support. 6/1/4 GP.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 02:26:49
January 13 2012 02:24 GMT
#86
On January 13 2012 11:22 Ryalnos wrote:
Odd comments about Kennen's first item "not being that much AP... hope to see something like a deathcap next" when almost everyone builds WotA first on him.

Ya the casters general game knowledge is surprisingly decent, but individual champ/matchups is a bit lacking. I think in the future the casters should try to find the champs that are being played and do some research on builds/lane matchups before watching the games.

And this game is NOT representative of jungle tf. 20 minute razor is WAY too late.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 02:26 GMT
#87
Goose continues losing small skirmishes besides a failed Kennen gank where TF intervened to pick off Kennen after a nice chain of CCs. However, they lost four of their team right after due to overextending.

Now down 7k gold.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 02:27 GMT
#88
CLG now pushing towers down to further their lead. Things looking very grim for Goose.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 02:30:58
January 13 2012 02:30 GMT
#89
CLG goes for baron. TF ults and sees them doing it and teleports behind baron, but there's no way they can contest. Janna loses oracles during the retreat.

CLG pushing down the middle for the Win inhib and then go take dragon.

Now up 12k gold and pushing down more towers.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 13 2012 02:30 GMT
#90
YAY ARTOSIS: "when ahead, get more ahead" huehue
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 02:31 GMT
#91
TF gets melted while CLG takes bottom inhib. CLG still not going for the nexus...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 02:32 GMT
#92
Goose surrender and CLG take the series 2-0.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 13 2012 02:35 GMT
#93
Poll: Recommend Goose vs CLG Game 2?

No (8)
 
89%

Yes (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Goose vs CLG Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 13 2012 02:38 GMT
#94
So a few things about jungle TF-

Get a wriggles. He isnt as slow as the casters were making him sound because red card is actually a really good farming tool, but god, wriggles vs non wriggles, you WILL be behind.

But the ganks were good, and the replay they showed at the end showed that the fail gank mid was entirely kassadins fault- go forward, get rooted, dont use any abilities, die to tower shot.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 13 2012 02:46 GMT
#95
Ok guys...

Likes/Dislikes?

Think of this from a production aspect, not simply just the casters. Though feedback for casters will help them.
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 02:48:23
January 13 2012 02:46 GMT
#96
On January 13 2012 11:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
So a few things about jungle TF-

Get a wriggles. He isnt as slow as the casters were making him sound because red card is actually a really good farming tool, but god, wriggles vs non wriggles, you WILL be behind.

But the ganks were good, and the replay they showed at the end showed that the fail gank mid was entirely kassadins fault- go forward, get rooted, dont use any abilities, die to tower shot.

I wouldn't say that game proves TF isn't viable .

When you're playing against CLG, it just feels like everything isn't viable because CLG is OP and needs to be nerfed.

Edit: I really like it. The stream didn't lag, the casters provided entertainment (I'm not looking for perfect knowledge I just want to be entertained) and the camera guy did a fairly good job of showing the important fights.

I would prefer more in depth commentary ala Day[9] style though. The casters were still fine, but I like to hear some commentary about team compositions, predictions as to what a team might pick/ban and why, and the thought process behind item builds.
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Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
January 13 2012 02:52 GMT
#97
Three notes about the casters:

1. This was their first cast together, so talking over each other and whatnot will get smoothed out over time.
2. The audio will be much better next week because we have swapped to Sennheiser broadcasting headsets with compression.
3. They are actually casting these games live. There is no real time to go do quick research about champion builds "before they watch the games," because they are using the 5 minute delay spectator client at the same time the games are being played. It is pre-recorded so that we can add things like the slow-mo instant replays and in the future, more production aspects.

Overall I hope everyone enjoyed the stream, and look for improvements from week to week.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 13 2012 02:53 GMT
#98
On January 13 2012 11:52 Joshy.IGN wrote:
Three notes about the casters:

1. This was their first cast together, so talking over each other and whatnot will get smoothed out over time.
2. The audio will be much better next week because we have swapped to Sennheiser broadcasting headsets with compression.
3. They are actually casting these games live. There is no real time to go do quick research about champion builds "before they watch the games," because they are using the 5 minute delay spectator client at the same time the games are being played. It is pre-recorded so that we can add things like the slow-mo instant replays and in the future, more production aspects.

Overall I hope everyone enjoyed the stream, and look for improvements from week to week.

Ahh, I assumed that they recorded the matches, then overlaid commentary. That makes sense then. Ya, I mean generally they were pretty good, apart from a few "wut?" moments.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 13 2012 02:56 GMT
#99
I don't know if it would be possible, but I'd love to see some guest casters (Dyrus!!!)...

I guess the game knowledge is biggest thing as it was kinda distracting. Tell them to frequent TL LoL forums

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2012 03:37 GMT
#100
On January 13 2012 11:46 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 11:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
So a few things about jungle TF-

Get a wriggles. He isnt as slow as the casters were making him sound because red card is actually a really good farming tool, but god, wriggles vs non wriggles, you WILL be behind.

But the ganks were good, and the replay they showed at the end showed that the fail gank mid was entirely kassadins fault- go forward, get rooted, dont use any abilities, die to tower shot.

I wouldn't say that game proves TF isn't viable .

When you're playing against CLG, it just feels like everything isn't viable because CLG is OP and needs to be nerfed.

Edit: I really like it. The stream didn't lag, the casters provided entertainment (I'm not looking for perfect knowledge I just want to be entertained) and the camera guy did a fairly good job of showing the important fights.

I would prefer more in depth commentary ala Day[9] style though. The casters were still fine, but I like to hear some commentary about team compositions, predictions as to what a team might pick/ban and why, and the thought process behind item builds.


CLG didn't outplay them that badly. The second game looked awful cause after that dive mid they gave Ryze blue back which they had just stolen throwing away their advantage. A couple bad plays later and they're completely out of the game. CLG generally doesn't let you come back and they are one of the best at working the end game. They know when they need to split push and how to stop it from happening to them. One of the best teams at closing out games besides being overcautious at the end of game 2, although I suspect they might have just been showing off. When you're up that much global gold it should be fairly obvious that you can just attack move to their nexus.

I'd like the casters to point out the cs differences and how far ahead certain lanes are during the cast. Like a 20 cs lead is significant and should be mentioned. They talked about the global gold every so often, but early game they never mentioned who was winning the lanes and how far ahead that side was. Other than some minor game knowledge mistakes they did pretty well I think. No doubt a lot better than a lot of the casters we've endured in the past, but they aren't pro players casting either.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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