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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 19:51 GMT
#3101
On October 17 2011 04:49 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:46 Doctorbeat wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:46 tobi9999 wrote:
hilarious cyanide steal l0l0l0l0l

on another note.

Why do teams make such a big deal out of dragon. As long as you know the timer and they can't take it over and over it doesn't matter that much.

First blood worth 633 gold with killl + assist
Dragon worth 975 gold, and 190 of that is kind of useless because it goes to support so it's 800 gold.

Which means 2 kills > dragon

IMO top tower > dragon every time.


Wat.

Support gold is the most valuable gold in the game. It is exactly why dragons, turrets and barons are worth so much to a team.


Everytime i play support, as long as I don't die with oracles, I'll always have enough to continuously ward the entire map.

Ofc Aegis is useful, but EUs put in on the jungler/top lane a lot of the time so.......


You have to consider that pro games generally don't have a lot of kills, so not a lot of assists for gold
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 16 2011 19:51 GMT
#3102
On October 17 2011 04:49 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:46 Doctorbeat wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:46 tobi9999 wrote:
hilarious cyanide steal l0l0l0l0l

on another note.

Why do teams make such a big deal out of dragon. As long as you know the timer and they can't take it over and over it doesn't matter that much.

First blood worth 633 gold with killl + assist
Dragon worth 975 gold, and 190 of that is kind of useless because it goes to support so it's 800 gold.

Which means 2 kills > dragon

IMO top tower > dragon every time.


Wat.

Support gold is the most valuable gold in the game. It is exactly why dragons, turrets and barons are worth so much to a team.


Everytime i play support, as long as I don't die with oracles, I'll always have enough to continuously ward the entire map.

Ofc Aegis is useful, but EUs put in on the jungler/top lane a lot of the time so.......


You can't possibly have enough to buy both items and wards.

Without HoG/Philo you will be behind in gold late game and behind in stats in lane. If you don't buy any items, you will get destroyed in teamfights.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 16 2011 19:52 GMT
#3103
Good reflex flash from Oce on barrel.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
October 16 2011 19:52 GMT
#3104
Fnatic seem to be in the lead but I think having Cait vs having Urgot could mess them up.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 19:53 GMT
#3105
Re Support Gold: Notice that Taric didn't buy boots until 23 min into this game while Janna had boots and has components for an Aegis. That's what global gold does for you.

Fnatic top tower dies to minions as Nasus pushes. He has Trinity now.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 16 2011 19:53 GMT
#3106
Leesin cannot handle nasus and he takes top turret.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 16 2011 19:53 GMT
#3107
Also, Wickd has been free farming top forever. This will be a scary Nasus. Then again, Wall of Pain, Janna ulti, Gragas ulti, Lee Sin ulti--they can keep Nasus at a distance.
My modesty is awesome.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#3108
Cyanide playing soooo gud
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#3109
Fnatic's team fighting is just really really good. SK split up.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#3110
Fnatic gets dragon 1 for 2. And forces all low.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#3111
Fnaic perfect timing on Baron, Lee Sin even launching his Q knowing it would hit. SK come in late after Dragon dies and gets caught by Gragas ult. WW and Cait trade for Karthus. Fnatic takes mid inner turret for free.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#3112
And then a turret.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 16 2011 19:55 GMT
#3113
Second time Nyph gets caught :/
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 16 2011 19:55 GMT
#3114
Nyph caught again.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#3115
Dat Cass ult, but still Fnatic takes 4 for 2
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#3116
Nyph walks into warded area. Karthus wall, Urgot swap, byebye.

Fnatic goes top lane and throws everything at SK there. They lose Gragas and Karthus but kill Cassi, WW, Nasus and the top inner tower.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Emnel
Profile Joined October 2011
Greece384 Posts
October 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#3117
Wow, that was quite fast fight :| CassiOPeia damage so sweet :D
Nasus feeds as he pleases.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
October 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#3118
SK being noobies getting caught everywhere, report.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
October 16 2011 19:57 GMT
#3119
On October 17 2011 04:54 cascades wrote:
Fnatic gets dragon 1 for 2. And forces all low.

isn't it 3-0?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 16 2011 19:57 GMT
#3120
On October 17 2011 04:34 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:29 Woony wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:27 DarkRise wrote:
Fnatic kinda have a weak late game


Gragas & Karthus are both crazy stupid late game


Dont think those can compete vs Nasus Cait WW Cass... but we'll see!

Can't really list WW when SK not giving him any farm--he's just going to be a throwaway initiate here.
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